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Old 07-21-2007, 01:25 PM #1
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Wireless Radiation Protection Devices


To protect against the damaging effects of cell phone radiation:

http://www.safewireless.org

there are devices on the market claiming to protect against it such as:

http://www.lessemf.com/cellphon.html#Case
http://www.emxbiochipscience.com
http://www.cellphone-health.com .

I want to know how effective these devices really are before I bet my
life on them. I am interested in links to any product reviews for them
or any opinions from experts on this.

I have stopped using my cell phone because of these damaging effects.

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Old 07-21-2007, 03:07 PM #2
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Re: Wireless Radiation Protection Devices


Artist wrote:
> To protect against the damaging effects of cell phone radiation:
>
> http://www.safewireless.org
>
> there are devices on the market claiming to protect against it such as:
>
> http://www.lessemf.com/cellphon.html#Case
> http://www.emxbiochipscience.com
> http://www.cellphone-health.com .
>
> I want to know how effective these devices really are before I bet my
> life on them. I am interested in links to any product reviews for them
> or any opinions from experts on this.
>
> I have stopped using my cell phone because of these damaging effects.


Build yourself a small aluminum hat for your phone, and model after your own.

Hats for bats.

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Old 07-21-2007, 03:14 PM #3
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Re: Wireless Radiation Protection Devices



"Artist" <artist@sj.speakeasy.net> wrote in message
news:-qadneVzPsUS0j_bnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> To protect against the damaging effects of cell phone radiation:
>
> http://www.safewireless.org
>
> there are devices on the market claiming to protect against it such as:
>
> http://www.lessemf.com/cellphon.html#Case
> http://www.emxbiochipscience.com
> http://www.cellphone-health.com .
>
> I want to know how effective these devices really are before I bet my life
> on them. I am interested in links to any product reviews for them or any
> opinions from experts on this.
>
> I have stopped using my cell phone because of these damaging effects.
>
> --
> If sj. appears in my email address remove it to respond.
> It is a spam jammer.
>
> Hulk Hogan for President!


You sound like the PERFECT customer for these devices.
I suggest you buy CRATELOADS of them while you can.
For *YOU* they will work just fine.



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Old 07-22-2007, 11:07 AM #4
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Re: Wireless Radiation Protection Devices


Artist schrieb:
> [...]
> I have stopped using my cell phone because of these damaging effects.


Do you feel less damaged now?

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Old 07-23-2007, 12:30 AM #5
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Re: Wireless Radiation Protection Devices


Porgy Tirebiter wrote:
> "Artist" <artist@sj.speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> news:-qadneVzPsUS0j_bnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> To protect against the damaging effects of cell phone radiation:
>>
>> http://www.safewireless.org
>>
>> there are devices on the market claiming to protect against it such as:
>>
>> http://www.lessemf.com/cellphon.html#Case
>> http://www.emxbiochipscience.com
>> http://www.cellphone-health.com .
>>
>> I want to know how effective these devices really are before I bet my life
>> on them. I am interested in links to any product reviews for them or any
>> opinions from experts on this.
>>
>> I have stopped using my cell phone because of these damaging effects.
>>
>> --
>> If sj. appears in my email address remove it to respond.
>> It is a spam jammer.
>>
>> Hulk Hogan for President!

>
> You sound like the PERFECT customer for these devices.
> I suggest you buy CRATELOADS of them while you can.
> For *YOU* they will work just fine.
>
>
>


If you want to ignore the research findings of Dr. George Carlo,
http://www.emf-health.com/dr-george-carlo.htm, that is up to you. I
won't. Maybe someday there will be tumor in your head in the shape of a
cell phone antenna right where the antenna was held as has happened to
several people already, or maybe you won't.
http://www.electromagneticradiationblues.com

Dr. Carlo was hired by the wireless industry to do research into the
health effects of cell phone radiation. Fortunately for those of us who
will pay attention to his work he had the courage and integrity to
present what he found. What he found was not what the wireless industry
wanted to hear. He paid a heavy price for presenting his results.
Included in that price was the complete loss of his house to arson.

I am doing my due diligence in researching the these supposed protective
devices before spending money on them and betting my future health and
likely my life on them. Posting to this newsgroup is part of that
effort. I was hoping for links to independent research or the
professional opinions of doctors, scientists, or biomedical engineer.
That is the information that is useful to me. If you have nothing useful
to post then please do not post.

http://www.psrast.org/mobileng/mobilstarteng.htm
http://www.tuberose.com/Cell_Phones.html

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Old 07-23-2007, 12:52 AM #6
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Re: Wireless Radiation Protection Devices


Wake up dude!!
You are getting hammered by RF on a daily basis by transmitters many times
stronger than a wimpy 250 milliwatt transmitter!
Department stores radiate you each time you enter/exit...
Commercial transmitters are all around you, running from 20 to 110 watts.
Your microwave oven leaks more RF than your cellphone transmits.
Paging transmitters on 930Mhz are on buildings all over, running in excess
of 250 WATTS!.
If RF was visable you could NOT see across the street.

If you are dumb enough to beleive this crap the good doctor publishes..so be
it.
DON'T use a cellphone!! do us all a favor and free up some bandwidth for us
who need it.
I personally have been around high power transmitters for over 35 years. I
use high power
HAM gear and commercial radios on all bands. I have used cellulars since
they came out
and had a 1 WATT GMS phone (Motorola 6000).

NO tumors...no wierd skin problems, I can see/hear/smell and **** like
normal.

Your "Ideas" are flawed.....and I don't think others want to hear your
"Doomsday" crap.




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Old 07-23-2007, 07:50 AM #7
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Re: Wireless Radiation Protection Devices


Artist wrote:
> Porgy Tirebiter wrote:
>> "Artist" <artist@sj.speakeasy.net> wrote in message
>> news:-qadneVzPsUS0j_bnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> To protect against the damaging effects of cell phone radiation:
>>>
>>> http://www.safewireless.org
>>>
>>> there are devices on the market claiming to protect against it such as:
>>>
>>> http://www.lessemf.com/cellphon.html#Case
>>> http://www.emxbiochipscience.com
>>> http://www.cellphone-health.com .
>>>
>>> I want to know how effective these devices really are before I bet my
>>> life on them. I am interested in links to any product reviews for
>>> them or any opinions from experts on this.
>>>
>>> I have stopped using my cell phone because of these damaging effects.
>>>
>>> --
>>> If sj. appears in my email address remove it to respond.
>>> It is a spam jammer.
>>>
>>> Hulk Hogan for President!

>>
>> You sound like the PERFECT customer for these devices.
>> I suggest you buy CRATELOADS of them while you can.
>> For *YOU* they will work just fine.
>>
>>
>>

>
> If you want to ignore the research findings of Dr. George Carlo,
> http://www.emf-health.com/dr-george-carlo.htm, that is up to you. I
> won't. Maybe someday there will be tumor in your head in the shape of a
> cell phone antenna right where the antenna was held as has happened to
> several people already, or maybe you won't.
> http://www.electromagneticradiationblues.com
>
> Dr. Carlo was hired by the wireless industry to do research into the
> health effects of cell phone radiation. Fortunately for those of us who
> will pay attention to his work he had the courage and integrity to
> present what he found. What he found was not what the wireless industry
> wanted to hear. He paid a heavy price for presenting his results.
> Included in that price was the complete loss of his house to arson.
>
> I am doing my due diligence in researching the these supposed protective
> devices before spending money on them and betting my future health and
> likely my life on them. Posting to this newsgroup is part of that
> effort. I was hoping for links to independent research or the
> professional opinions of doctors, scientists, or biomedical engineer.
> That is the information that is useful to me. If you have nothing useful
> to post then please do not post.
>
> http://www.psrast.org/mobileng/mobilstarteng.htm
> http://www.tuberose.com/Cell_Phones.html


TAKE YOUR MEDICATION!!!

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Old 07-23-2007, 11:07 AM #8
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Re: Wireless Radiation Protection Devices


If you are a ham radio operator then I am sure you are aware of the
inverse square law. Those high power transmitters were not held right
next to you head and the problem is in the microwave bands.

It can take 10 to 12 years for the problem to become apparent.
Susceptibility of individuals vary.

Maybe you should quit using the GMS phone while you still have some
brain cells left:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en..._uids=17045516

"Recent years have seen increasing evidence of risks from the phones.
Scandinavian studies have suggested that people who have used them for
more than 10 years are much more likely to get brain tumours, and that
the radiation kills brain cells, which could lead to today's young
people being senile from their forties."
http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2745131.ece

"Recently, New Media has reported a study showing the radiation from
cell phones is so full of energy they can be used to cook eggs. In the
experiment, researchers placed one egg in a porcelain cup (because it is
easy to conduct heat), and put one cell phone on one side and another
cell phone on the other. The researchers then called from one cell phone
to another and kept the cell phones on after connecting.

During the first 15 minutes, nothing changed. After 25 minutes, however,
the egg shell started to become hot and at 40 minutes, the surface of
the egg became hard and bristled. Researchers found the protein in the
egg had become solid although the egg yolk was still in liquid form.
After 65 minutes, the whole egg was well cooked."

http://www.tuberose.com/Cell_Phones.html

Porgy Tirebiter wrote:
> Wake up dude!!
> You are getting hammered by RF on a daily basis by transmitters many times
> stronger than a wimpy 250 milliwatt transmitter!
> Department stores radiate you each time you enter/exit...
> Commercial transmitters are all around you, running from 20 to 110 watts.
> Your microwave oven leaks more RF than your cellphone transmits.
> Paging transmitters on 930Mhz are on buildings all over, running in excess
> of 250 WATTS!.
> If RF was visable you could NOT see across the street.
>
> If you are dumb enough to beleive this crap the good doctor publishes..so be
> it.
> DON'T use a cellphone!! do us all a favor and free up some bandwidth for us
> who need it.
> I personally have been around high power transmitters for over 35 years. I
> use high power
> HAM gear and commercial radios on all bands. I have used cellulars since
> they came out
> and had a 1 WATT GMS phone (Motorola 6000).



>
> NO tumors...no wierd skin problems, I can see/hear/smell and **** like
> normal.
>
> Your "Ideas" are flawed.....and I don't think others want to hear your
> "Doomsday" crap.
>
>
>
>



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Old 07-23-2007, 12:25 PM #9
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Re: Wireless Radiation Protection Devices


It appears one of the items I linked to, the BIO Pro at
http://www.cellphone-health.com, is a scam:
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6142_102...sageID=1206056

Artist wrote:
> To protect against the damaging effects of cell phone radiation:
>
> http://www.safewireless.org
>
> there are devices on the market claiming to protect against it such as:
>
> http://www.lessemf.com/cellphon.html#Case
> http://www.emxbiochipscience.com
> http://www.cellphone-health.com .
>
> I want to know how effective these devices really are before I bet my
> life on them. I am interested in links to any product reviews for them
> or any opinions from experts on this.
>
> I have stopped using my cell phone because of these damaging effects.
>



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Old 08-01-2007, 11:26 PM #10
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Re: Wireless Radiation Protection Devices


Artist <artist@sj.speakeasy.net> wrote in news:-
qadneVzPsUS0j_bnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> To protect against the damaging effects of cell phone radiation:
>
> http://www.safewireless.org
>
> there are devices on the market claiming to protect against it such as:
>
> http://www.lessemf.com/cellphon.html#Case
> http://www.emxbiochipscience.com
> http://www.cellphone-health.com .
>
> I want to know how effective these devices really are before I bet my
> life on them. I am interested in links to any product reviews for them
> or any opinions from experts on this.
>
> I have stopped using my cell phone because of these damaging effects.
>


Your cellphone runs 0.25 watts...max...if you're lucky, otherwise it runs
0.15 watts and coverage sucks worse. This massive transmitter off the
huge battery powers one of the worst antenna systems on the planet, the
girly cellphone antenna, which radiates, maybe, half of it...again if
you're lucky. It only runs this power level if the cell is so far there
are only 1 or 2 bars. Otherwise, the cell, itself, turns the power down
by remote control to keep you from overrunning the other 24 suckers using
this same channel for more revenue. NOTHING in your head gets WARM,
EVER!

Just outside your window, should you live in a city anywhere in America,
is a plethora of massive transmitters with really serious antennas that
have been blasting your little head with massive doses of RF since you
were born...if that is after about 1920. AM broadcast stations run
50,000 watts to directional arrays that point all that power in one
direction for more coverage, bringing the ERP, effective radiated power,
up to 500,000 watts, maybe more, if you're off the business end of the
array. I worked for years BETWEEN two towers of a 5000 watt AM station
on 1150Khz that had so much RF in the wooden building it didn't matter
whether you turned the light switches on or off...the flourescent lights
still stayed "on" in either position from the induced RF power in the
building wiring. Our telephone man refused to go into the basement to
check phone problems because he got an RF burn off the phone wires to the
secretary's office. "You got a dialtone to the building! It's your
problem in the basement!", he'd shout from afar...(c; (I guess our
running around in the basement with lit flourescent tubes in our hands
didn't help his aversion any...hee hee.)

FM broadcast stations run 100,000 watts from 88 to 108 Mhz.
VHF TV stations run 316,000 watts from 56 to 220 Mhz
UHF TV stations run up to 25,000,000! WTAT-TV channel 24 in Charleston
runs 25 megawatts in Awendaw, SC, at about 1800' up a huge tower, the
only reason you don't get cooked at the transmitter building where Xrays
from the very high voltage rectifiers need more shielding.
Paging transmitters run 500 watts to high gain antennas all over town at
10,000 watts ERP, from the top of the hospitals, for instance.
The cops, taxis, public utility, businesses all run several thousand
times more power from their cars on trunk radio systems from the car next
to you than your cellphone is capable of generating.
Your microwave oven leaks many times more power at a much higher
destructive frequency around its dirty door seal choke joints than your
cellphone puts out, too....right by your kids!

My point is there are thousands of much more powerful RF transmitters you
think nothing of living with all your life than that little peanut
whistle of a crappy transmitter in your pocket. This nonsense was
generated by the cellular carriers so savvy customers wouldn't be
screaming foul when they turned the power down from 3W, which worked, to
..15 watts, which sucks a few years ago....by scaring the public that they
were cooking their brains. Their brains were ALREADY cooked, long before
their first cellphone! Our lukemia statistics and diseases like
Altzheimers have shot up since RF came to town. But, you'll NEVER hear
anyone question these powerful transmitters' power owners over
it...companies like Clear Channel, who can kick your congressman's ass
right out of office if they take a shine to him....or General Electric
(NBC), for example. No, no....ONLY CONSUMER transmitters are dangerous,
right....just like only consumer cars!

My friend Linwood Sikes, ham call N4LS, died a couple of years ago. He
was over 90 and died from old age. Linwood put the first radio station
in Charleston, SC, on the air when he was a teenager, built thousands of
radio stations for broadcasting, airline companies to talk to airplanes,
and was the first FM mobile radio dealer in the state, which is still in
business by his son, today. Linwood's ham station, right up to the day
he died, had open feeders right over your head lighting up the whole room
with deadly RF which should have SURELY killed him long before he turned
90! It didn't happen, for him or thousands of other RF transmitter
engineers and ham operators like me...and him. I had a kidney stone a
couple of times before I bought my own distiller and quit drinking
calcium-laced city water to form them. I was in the hospital, ONCE, in
61 years! My fingers hurt from typing this message, but that's not RF's
fault...(c;

Relax....you won't glow in the dark. If you wanna see what that looks
and feels like, give us a call and I'll take you out to a REAL
transmitter that just turns the air BLUE with ions!....always great fun!

Larry
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While in Mexico, I didn't have to press 1 for Spanish.
While in Iran, I didn't have to press 1 for Farsi, either.
While in Florida, I had to press 2 for English.
It just isn't fair.

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