Cell phone booster ???

When we go to the (recently-aquired) cabin we are just on the edge of cell
phone service.
We can get a signal less than a mile from the cabin, in terrain that is
heavily forested and has variances of elevation of no more than 50 feet
vertical
We really don't want to have permanent (line) phone service in the cabin,
but it would be nice to have cell phone service just in case

Someone suggested we get a cell phone booster for the car and/or cabin

Any advice and experience with such a device would be appreciated

Oh yes, primary service is T-Mobile
But Cingular is the provider in and around the cabin
The phones are Motorola Razor V3s
We also have some Motorola V300s that could be left at the cabin for 911 if
a booster is a solution

I live under the same condition. I have no service inside the house. I had
an extra magnetic antenna for the vehicle. I put the antenna on top of the
roof and ran the wire inside through a window. I have two bars of signal
now. Not able to walk around inside the house and talk but can set in my
chair and talk all I want.
Maybe it will work for you.

<ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in message
news:13bua5j6571pb67@corp.supernews.com...
> When we go to the (recently-aquired) cabin we are just on the edge of cell
> phone service.
> We can get a signal less than a mile from the cabin, in terrain that is
> heavily forested and has variances of elevation of no more than 50 feet
> vertical
> We really don't want to have permanent (line) phone service in the cabin,
> but it would be nice to have cell phone service just in case
>
> Someone suggested we get a cell phone booster for the car and/or cabin
>
> Any advice and experience with such a device would be appreciated
>
> Oh yes, primary service is T-Mobile
> But Cingular is the provider in and around the cabin
> The phones are Motorola Razor V3s
> We also have some Motorola V300s that could be left at the cabin for 911
if
> a booster is a solution
>
>
>
>
>
>

"Les Long" <ldlong@iwon.com> wrote in
news:znHvi.31714$ax1.18190@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

> Not able to walk around inside the house and talk
> but can set in my chair and talk all I want.
> Maybe it will work for you.
>
>

http://cellantenna.com/repeater/building_repeater.htm
$499
Easy to install....
Works on all 800 cellphone and PCS systems.
3 watts and a high gain antenna DO make a difference!

I was reading Verizon's new customer agreement looking to see what tricks
they're using to keep customers from suing them, now, with a new company
policy. I noticed Verizon Wireless now has a whole paragraph telling you
you cannot have a booster amp or repeater or anything that'll connect
your phone to their system.

It's BS.....It's not their system.



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Pegleg wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:30:47 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> I was reading Verizon's new customer agreement looking to see what tricks
>> they're using to keep customers from suing them, now, with a new company
>> policy. I noticed Verizon Wireless now has a whole paragraph telling you
>> you cannot have a booster amp or repeater or anything that'll connect
>> your phone to their system.
>
> How are they going to detect it?

It's "the network" that, like in the TV ad, follows you around, everywhere.

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Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
news:u1uub3th0o8emuqns4qsjtc20rvrujj08c@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:30:47 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>I was reading Verizon's new customer agreement looking to see what
>>tricks they're using to keep customers from suing them, now, with a
>>new company policy. I noticed Verizon Wireless now has a whole
>>paragraph telling you you cannot have a booster amp or repeater or
>>anything that'll connect your phone to their system.
>
> Can you copy and paste that paragraph?
>

Go to http://www.verizonwireless.com/ and scroll to the bottom of the
spam on "Customer Agreement", which is NOT the nearly inaccessible data
customer agreement, but is the one for the phones.

After this document downloads, ad nauseum (you need broadband), look
under the heading:
"Our Rights to Limit or End Service or This Agreement"
where it says, and I quote:

"You agree not to resell our service to someone else without our prior
written permission. You also agree your wireless phone won't be used for
any other purpose that isn't allowed by this agreement or that's illegal.
(ED - I wonder what percentage of VZW's best customers are drug dealers?)




(below here is the quote)*******************************************
You agree that you won't install, deploy, or use any regeneration
equipment or similar mechanism (for example, a repeater) to originate,
amplify, enhance, retransmit or regenerate a transmitted RF signal.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Emphasis added - Ed.
(ED - OK, FESS UP! HOW MANY OF YOU GOT THAT DA4000 LINEAR STASHED UNDER
THE FRONT SEAT OF THE ESCALADE?! COME ON! OUT WID IT! DAMN! And, no
more home repeaters just so you can use your phone in the living room!)



WE CAN, WITHOUT NOTICE, LIMIT, SUSPEND, OR END YOUR SERVICE OR ANY
AGREEMENT WITH YOU FOR THIS OR ANY OTHER GOOD CAUSE, including, but not
limited to: (a) paying late more than once in any 12 months;

(b) incurring charges larger than a required deposit or billing limit
(even if we haven't yet billed the charges);
(ED - This one is interesting! If my deposit was $50 and my cellphone
bill is $79.95, normally, I've incurred charges larger than my deposit!
If I didn't PAY a deposit in the first place, ANY CHARGE BRINGS OUT THE
DEATH SQUADS!

(c) harassing our employees or agents;
(ED - Does that include stealing their chairs so I can sit down while I
wait and wait?? If I steal a chair so the old lady with the cane can sit
down while SHE waits and waits, who get terminated, her or me? She's the
one sitting in it!)

(d) lying to us;
(ED - But not them lying to you, obviously, which is "normal".)

(e) interfering with our operations;
(ED - Damn! No more 50 caliber depleted uranium shots through the cell
cabinets, OR ELSE! You boys quit trying to shoot through the antenna
panels, too!)

(f) breaching this agreement; (g) "spamming," or other abusive messaging
or calling;
(ED - If you use your phone, you've breached this agreement....somewhere.
AND NO MORE SENDING VERIZON NASTY EMAILS OR *****ING TO THE 611
OPERATORS!)

(h) modifying your wireless phone from its manufacturer's specifications;
(ED - This line makes it OK to restore manufacturer features Verizon has
turned off to sell back to you, right??)

(i) providing credit information we can't verify;
(ED - How the hell are YOU supposed to know what credit information those
stupids they hire can't verify, in violation of this contract??)

(j) using your service in a way that adversely affects our network or
other customers
(ED - See? I told you if you turn the damned thing on you breached this
agreement!)

; or (k) allowing anyone to tamper with your wireless phone number.
(ED - Anyone? What about that little nerdy kid at the service counter?
Isn't he "anyone" in the company's eyes? What about the salesgirl
programming in the phone I just bought? She's "anyone"...and a FOX!)

We can also temporarily limit your service for any operational or
governmental reason. If you file for bankruptcy, our rights to limit,
suspend, or end your service or any agreement with you will be governed
by bankruptcy law."
(ED - I brought up the bankruptcy webpage on their demo aircard computer:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/g...entType=Legal%
20Notice&textId=88
which lists:
"Bankruptcy Contacts at Verizon Wireless

Verizon Wireless Bankruptcy Administration
P.O. Box 3397
Bloomington, IL 61702
Phone: 800-555-8879
Fax: 309-820-7044 "

and asked the dizzy blonde behind the VZW counter, "Is Verizon Wireless
going bankrupt or have they already? I don't wanna buy a phone if it's
not gonna work in a few weeks from now! What's this Bankruptcy
Administration doing, closing the company? Be sure you cash your
paycheck fast!"

Not a single talking head in the shop knew what this meant.....(c;
Tuesdays will never be the same....(c;

Verizon on 611 didn't know, either!



All in good fun. It's a great company, just like GM, Ford, Worldcom, or
any of those other bankrupt assholes that should be in jail ....

Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
news:t7uub35dhlgu4gnf31u29dvks06tnk6djp@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:30:47 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>I was reading Verizon's new customer agreement looking to see what
>>tricks they're using to keep customers from suing them, now, with a
>>new company policy. I noticed Verizon Wireless now has a whole
>>paragraph telling you you cannot have a booster amp or repeater or
>>anything that'll connect your phone to their system.
>
> How are they going to detect it?
>

They look at your GPS position and notice that everyone else near that
position has little or no service, except you are so strong CDMA has your
transmitter turned down to 20 mw and you're still swamping the receiver.

It isn't rocket science....

Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in
news:g_idnWZqd_qoGyLbnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com:

> It's "the network" that, like in the TV ad, follows you around,
> everywhere.
>
>

It doesn't follow you around in Walmart where it says NO SERVICE. That's
the problem...(c;

On 8/12/2007 11:53 PM RobertPatrick exclaimed:
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
> news:Xns998AE1211EF2Anoonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
>
>
>> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in
>> news:g_idnWZqd_qoGyLbnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>
>>> It's "the network" that, like in the TV ad, follows you around,
>>> everywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> It doesn't follow you around in Walmart where it says NO SERVICE.
>> That's the problem...(c;
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I know! geesh.
>
There are very few cell phones that work inside a brick and steel I-beam
building. When I go to B.J.'s Warehouse, Wal-Mart or such, I need to be
near a window or door to get a signal. That's been true for just about
every cell phone / carrier I've used. It may very well be the nature of
the beast.

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Brian K wrote:
> On 8/12/2007 11:53 PM RobertPatrick exclaimed:
>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns998AE1211EF2Anoonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
>>
>>
>>> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in
>>> news:g_idnWZqd_qoGyLbnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It's "the network" that, like in the TV ad, follows you around,
>>>> everywhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It doesn't follow you around in Walmart where it says NO SERVICE.
>>> That's the problem...(c;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I know! geesh.
>>
> There are very few cell phones that work inside a brick and steel
> I-beam building. When I go to B.J.'s Warehouse, Wal-Mart or such, I
> need to be near a window or door to get a signal. That's been true
> for just about every cell phone / carrier I've used. It may very
> well be the nature of the beast.


My experience using TMobile has been different. At places like Wal-Mart,
Costco, Sam's Club, Home Depot, etc, my wife and I always call each
other when we're done with our individual browsing to find each other
and head to the checkout counter.

Lisa BB. wrote:
> "BruceR" <razrbruce@NOgmailSPAM.com> wrote in
> news:46c115e1$0$12232$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>>
>>
>> Brian K wrote:
>>> On 8/12/2007 11:53 PM RobertPatrick exclaimed:
>>>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
>>>> news:Xns998AE1211EF2Anoonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in
>>>>> news:g_idnWZqd_qoGyLbnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's "the network" that, like in the TV ad, follows you around,
>>>>>> everywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't follow you around in Walmart where it says NO SERVICE.
>>>>> That's the problem...(c;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know! geesh.
>>>>
>>> There are very few cell phones that work inside a brick and steel
>>> I-beam building. When I go to B.J.'s Warehouse, Wal-Mart or such, I
>>> need to be near a window or door to get a signal. That's been true
>>> for just about every cell phone / carrier I've used. It may very
>>> well be the nature of the beast.
>>
>>
>> My experience using TMobile has been different. At places like
>> Wal-Mart, Costco, Sam's Club, Home Depot, etc, my wife and I always
>> call each other when we're done with our individual browsing to find
>> each other and head to the checkout counter.
>>
>>
>>
>
> T-mobile service is bad. I live in a medium to large metro area. The
> phone won't connect half the time. I sent back the phone and got a
> refund. And canelled service. It was a package deal on HSN.

Like all carriers, service quality varies by area. In my hometown of
Honolulu and places I frequently visit such as southern California,
Florida and Houston, TX I find the service to be excellent - fact I've
had no problems anywhere I've gone in the USA. T-Mobile has a quality
of service guide that is very accurate on their website. You can check
the quality right down to a specific street.

To make a blanket statement like "(Any Carrier) is bad" based on one
phone in one (unstated) area is not particularly accurate or helpful.
Did you also consider that you may have had a bad phone?

In article <46c14c76$0$4673$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, BruceR wrote:
>> T-mobile service is bad. I live in a medium to large metro area. The
>> phone won't connect half the time. I sent back the phone and got a
>> refund. And canelled service. It was a package deal on HSN.
>
> Like all carriers, service quality varies by area. In my hometown of
> Honolulu and places I frequently visit such as southern California,
> Florida and Houston, TX I find the service to be excellent - fact I've
> had no problems anywhere I've gone in the USA. T-Mobile has a quality
> of service guide that is very accurate on their website. You can check
> the quality right down to a specific street.
I Agree T-Mobile in Torrington Connecticut is great! but
because they use 1900MHZ... Not great in Stone buildings (Salvation
Army, Saint Marons, Torrington Community Soup Kitchen probally a few
others) but In my apartment I hit all 7 of the 7 bars of my Nokia
6340i without a problem!
Contrast that with my Alltel Nokia 3585i, its the same deal
signal wise. Only in my apartment I only get 4 bars out of 7.

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B'ichela wrote in alt.cellular

> In article <46c14c76$0$4673$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, BruceR wrote:
>>> T-mobile service is bad. I live in a medium to large metro area. The
>>> phone won't connect half the time. I sent back the phone and got a
>>> refund. And canelled service. It was a package deal on HSN.
>>
>> Like all carriers, service quality varies by area. In my hometown of
>> Honolulu and places I frequently visit such as southern California,
>> Florida and Houston, TX I find the service to be excellent - fact I've
>> had no problems anywhere I've gone in the USA. T-Mobile has a quality
>> of service guide that is very accurate on their website. You can check
>> the quality right down to a specific street.
> I Agree T-Mobile in Torrington Connecticut is great! but
> because they use 1900MHZ... Not great in Stone buildings (Salvation
> Army, Saint Marons, Torrington Community Soup Kitchen probally a few
> others) but In my apartment I hit all 7 of the 7 bars of my Nokia
> 6340i without a problem!
> Contrast that with my Alltel Nokia 3585i, its the same deal
> signal wise. Only in my apartment I only get 4 bars out of 7.
>

I live in a small apartment complex in the Seattle area. All 4 of the
major carriers have very good coverage everywhere except where I live.
None of them get a signal inside the complex, except for cingular. I see
residents walking around the outside of the complex talking on their
cell phones, I did that too. Now I have Cingular and I get full bars of
signal almost everywhere in my apartment, both 2 and 3g.
Signal depends on where you are, no matter what the carrier.


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Dick C wrote:
> B'ichela wrote in alt.cellular
>
>> In article <46c14c76$0$4673$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, BruceR wrote:
>>>> T-mobile service is bad. I live in a medium to large metro area. The
>>>> phone won't connect half the time. I sent back the phone and got a
>>>> refund. And canelled service. It was a package deal on HSN.
>>> Like all carriers, service quality varies by area. In my hometown of
>>> Honolulu and places I frequently visit such as southern California,
>>> Florida and Houston, TX I find the service to be excellent - fact I've
>>> had no problems anywhere I've gone in the USA. T-Mobile has a quality
>>> of service guide that is very accurate on their website. You can check
>>> the quality right down to a specific street.
>> I Agree T-Mobile in Torrington Connecticut is great! but
>> because they use 1900MHZ... Not great in Stone buildings (Salvation
>> Army, Saint Marons, Torrington Community Soup Kitchen probally a few
>> others) but In my apartment I hit all 7 of the 7 bars of my Nokia
>> 6340i without a problem!
>> Contrast that with my Alltel Nokia 3585i, its the same deal
>> signal wise. Only in my apartment I only get 4 bars out of 7.
>>
>
> I live in a small apartment complex in the Seattle area. All 4 of the
> major carriers have very good coverage everywhere except where I live.
> None of them get a signal inside the complex, except for cingular. I see
> residents walking around the outside of the complex talking on their
> cell phones, I did that too. Now I have Cingular and I get full bars of
> signal almost everywhere in my apartment, both 2 and 3g.
> Signal depends on where you are, no matter what the carrier.

One should never look at the number of "bars" as any indication of
signal strength. They're put there by the manufacturer of the phone.
One manufacturer might decide that a weak signal deserves one bar,
while the next thinks two would be more appropriate. Etc., etc. Not
only is there no standard between manufacturers, there's not even a
standard between phones from the *same* manufacturer.

The fact that you changed carriers, and consequently phones, might
have something to do with you seeing "more bars."

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In article <bd16c3p7uldjm96e94mo46rsn98t0agl8m@4ax.com>, Evan Platt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:27:05 GMT, B'ichela <mdalene@pinkrose.dhis.org>
> wrote:
>
>>but In my apartment I hit all 7 of the 7 bars of my Nokia
>>6340i without a problem!
>> Contrast that with my Alltel Nokia 3585i, its the same deal
>>signal wise. Only in my apartment I only get 4 bars out of 7.
>
> I think it's been discussed numerous times that the 'signal bars' on a
> phone is meaningless..
Perhaps thats true but then again, we need a way to compare
products that is a little more definiative than saying. Brand A
service sounds better than Brand B. which drops calls all over the
place!. Sure if the phones gave us the -dbm we could use that but most
phone owners are not going to want to go that far.
As for which one actual works better? Its a toss up really.
T-mobile is a little more "tinny" whereas Alltel is more bold and full
sounding (I know it isn't a barbaque sauce, but "bold" sound kinda
fits).
BTW. T-mobile hits all 7 bars in my Torrington Walmart
as Alltel also hits the 7 bars. I believe the cell tower must be
close to Walmart to have that type of signal INSIDE the store.

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Dick C wrote:

<snip>

> You really do not understand this do you? The bars of signal are
> an indicator of signal strength. Period.

Guess again, Dick.

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