HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90



Hi Any Advice?

I am looking for a top-of-the-range PDA phone for business use.

I need:
1. Something easier to bang text in at speed (i.e. QUERTY keyboard I
guess), for emails.

2. Good Calendar function
(to synch with Outlook2003/ WinXP)
e.g. Can it show titles of everything I need to do this week in text
on 1 screen?
e.g. Can it transfer category/colour of entries?
e.g. Must synch properly so that I can delete/edit emails on either
my phone OR my PC


3. Web Browser
e.g. Can it *zoom* so able to see whole web pages even though
looking through low res (e.g.320x240) screen.
e.g. able to see dynamic web pages (.aspx etc, not just .html)


4. Also must have the basics:
Must have Blue tooth (for headset/car use),
fit inside fairly small trouser pockets, reasonable battery life.


5. I like: scrollwheels, and touchsensitive screens, and some sort of
scratch protection for the screen (although they seem to have gone
slightly out of fashion). 3G sounds fun but not critical. GPS
unlikely
to work well enough to be useful. Camera likewise not much use unless
v good...


- any thoughts?



Phones I am considering
=======================

HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

Yes the HTC Tytn II looks interesting but:

1. It's a bit heavy (at 190g - whereas the Blackberry 8820 is 134g)
2. It's a bit fat (at 1.9cm - whereas the Blackberry 8820 is 1.4cm)
3. It doesnt have separate number keys.

Does anyone know if you can zoom using the browser
(on either of these phones? - iit's just that I imagine viewing
a web page on screens that are quite so low resolution [i.e. 320 x
240]
would be a real pain!

To be hones if I'm going for something that fat and that heavy
I would be tempted to go for the new Nokia E90 Communicator
(210g and 2.0cm thick), which has a clam-shell design and a much
wider internal screen (800x352). I gather it's keyboard may be no
easier to use though despite being much wider in design because
they are rather stiff.

Of course what I dont know is how well the various software
all works in practice! I am committed to using Outlook2003 on my PC
and it would
be nice to be able to synch properly with that (e.g. category/colour
of dairy items being transferred?).

Any thoughts?


Ship
Shiperton Henethe

P.S.
I have been using a Sony Ericsson P910i for a couple of years, but
its synching software was *diabolically* unreliable so I dont want
to go do SE ever again.


PPS.
Built in camera & GPS would only be of marginal use to me. But I am
UK based, and what I cant quite work out is what networks I will be
able
to get where I live... Any one know how I can check 3G, GPS, HSDPA[?]
availability)

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I believe the HTC is Windows Mobile 6 and should work with Outlook. The
Nokia I believe is Symbian OS so it might not. Just my guess.

Blacberry's keys have always bothered me (too darn small).

Mack

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> I believe the HTC is Windows Mobile 6 and should work with Outlook. The
> Nokia I believe is Symbian OS so it might not. Just my guess.
>
> Blacberry's keys have always bothered me (too darn small).
>
> Mack
>
>
>
Just to chip in that Windows Mobile or Symbian don't make any
difference. Both sync perfectly well with MS Outlook. That aside, I
suggest you should hold and try the phones if possible. This one is
close to call and personal preference will be a big factor.

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xxy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>> I believe the HTC is Windows Mobile 6 and should work with Outlook. The
>> Nokia I believe is Symbian OS so it might not. Just my guess.
>>
>> Blacberry's keys have always bothered me (too darn small).
>>
>> Mack
>>
>>
>>
> Just to chip in that Windows Mobile or Symbian don't make any
> difference. Both sync perfectly well with MS Outlook. That aside, I
> suggest you should hold and try the phones if possible. This one is
> close to call and personal preference will be a big factor.

I get a better choice and more effective sync with Nokia PC Suite than
with Activesync. And you can put the Blackberry client on the Nokia.

Just Know Htc makes Excellent Phones

Great for multitasking

> I get a better choice and more effective sync with Nokia PC Suite than
> with Activesync. And you can put the Blackberry client on the Nokia.

Sorry I'm not entirely sure I understand all that.

ActiveSynch is runs on the Microsoft Mobile (i.e. in this case the HTC
Tytn 2), yes? So unlikely as it sounds you are actually saying the
Nokia's software works better than the Microsoft equivalent? Can you
be more specific - Does it allow Calendar entries whos colours (i.e.
"Label") I have changed, to have that colour transfer to and from the
mobile?

Likewse regarding Blackberry, are you saying that the Blackberry
software better in some way than the Nokia software that comes with
the E90?


Ship
Shiperton Henethe

Hi

I am now just about to buy a BB 8310, but I have some questions:

1. 8320's UK launch date
When does the 8320 get launched in the UK?
Anyone know?
(And will it work with Vodaphone?)

2. Wi-Fi
I understand the 8320 comes with Wi-Fi.
Confused what does this do exactly?
Can you make VoIP calls?
Would we use Skype for this?
If not is Wi-Fi just for emails and web surfing?
If it can use VoIP, arent the networks (e.g. Vodaphone
worried? I.e. why would they sell me a machine
that doesnt need to use their network!!)


3. GPS
I am told the 8310 has GPS.
How well does this work?
(I am unlikely to use it much because I already have
a dedicated GPS in my car.)
Does it get maps as it needs time (a bit like the
way Google earth works?
Can it do point-to-point journey times? (e.g. by car)

4. Change Fonts?
Can I change the rather ugly fonts that
BBs seem to come with (e.g. the "W" characters
are flat at the bottom rather than having two points)

5. Two thumbs?
Is text entry normally best done with two thumbs?
(even if you can touch type)

6. 8800 vs 8300 series
Being as I'm not going to use the camera OR the GPS
much, would I be better off using.
I am told the 8300 serious doesnt have very robust
keyboard/build quality...

7. 3G?
I am based in South Warwickshire, UK most of the time.
I can scarcely get 02 AT ALL in my house. 3G would be
useful for surfing, but I imagine it wont work in our
area! Hard to know in advance because network coverage
maps seem very inaccurate.

8. Calendar
When you sych your msOutlook calendar, do the colours
(i.e. labels) of entries get transfered (and synched
if changed later?

With thanks


Ship
Shiperton Henethe


On Sep 10, 5:58 pm, ship <[email protected]> wrote:
> HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90
>
> Hi Any Advice?
>
> I am looking for a top-of-the-range PDA phone for business use.
>
> I need:
> 1. Something easier to bang text in at speed (i.e. QUERTY keyboard I
> guess), for emails.
>
> 2. Good Calendar function
> (to synch with Outlook2003/ WinXP)
> e.g. Can it show titles of everything I need to do this week in text
> on 1 screen?
> e.g. Can it transfer category/colour of entries?
> e.g. Must synch properly so that I can delete/edit emails on either
> my phone OR my PC
>
> 3. Web Browser
> e.g. Can it *zoom* so able to see whole web pages even though
> looking through low res (e.g.320x240) screen.
> e.g. able to see dynamic web pages (.aspx etc, not just .html)
>
> 4. Also must have the basics:
> Must have Blue tooth (for headset/car use),
> fit inside fairly small trouser pockets, reasonable battery life.
>
> 5. I like: scrollwheels, and touchsensitive screens, and some sort of
> scratch protection for the screen (although they seem to have gone
> slightly out of fashion). 3G sounds fun but not critical. GPS
> unlikely
> to work well enough to be useful. Camera likewise not much use unless
> v good...
>
> - any thoughts?
>
> Phones I am considering
> =======================
>
> HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90
>
> Yes the HTC Tytn II looks interesting but:
>
> 1. It's a bit heavy (at 190g - whereas the Blackberry 8820 is 134g)
> 2. It's a bit fat (at 1.9cm - whereas the Blackberry 8820 is 1.4cm)
> 3. It doesnt have separate number keys.
>
> Does anyone know if you can zoom using the browser
> (on either of these phones? - iit's just that I imagine viewing
> a web page on screens that are quite so low resolution [i.e. 320 x
> 240]
> would be a real pain!
>
> To be hones if I'm going for something that fat and that heavy
> I would be tempted to go for the new Nokia E90 Communicator
> (210g and 2.0cm thick), which has a clam-shell design and a much
> wider internal screen (800x352). I gather it's keyboard may be no
> easier to use though despite being much wider in design because
> they are rather stiff.
>
> Of course what I dont know is how well the various software
> all works in practice! I am committed to using Outlook2003 on my PC
> and it would
> be nice to be able to synch properly with that (e.g. category/colour
> of dairy items being transferred?).
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> ShipShipertonHenethe
>
> P.S.
> I have been using a Sony Ericsson P910i for a couple of years, but
> its synching software was *diabolically* unreliable so I dont want
> to go do SE ever again.
>
> PPS.
> Built in camera & GPS would only be of marginal use to me. But I am
> UK based, and what I cant quite work out is what networks I will be
> able
> to get where I live... Any one know how I can check 3G, GPS, HSDPA[?]
> availability)

ship wrote:
>> I get a better choice and more effective sync with Nokia PC Suite than
>> with Activesync. And you can put the Blackberry client on the Nokia.
>
> Sorry I'm not entirely sure I understand all that.
>
> ActiveSynch is runs on the Microsoft Mobile (i.e. in this case the HTC
> Tytn 2), yes? So unlikely as it sounds you are actually saying the
> Nokia's software works better than the Microsoft equivalent? Can you
> be more specific - Does it allow Calendar entries whos colours (i.e.
> "Label") I have changed, to have that colour transfer to and from the
> mobile?

The Microsoft software is better integrated with Exchange/Outlook in
that it just goes ahead and does it. PC Suite from Nokia enables me to
choose which folders to synchronise, it lets me choose the direction of
the synch, it enables me to not synch 'private' stuff, to mark stuff as
private on the fly and a number of other things. Activesynch doesn't do
that.

> Likewse regarding Blackberry, are you saying that the Blackberry
> software better in some way than the Nokia software that comes with
> the E90?

If you already have a Blackberry infrastructure (BES etc) then, these
days you don't actually need to buy Blackberry handsets. Nokia, for one,
has a software Blackberry client for their smartphones.

[email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
> The Microsoft software is better integrated with Exchange/Outlook in
> that it just goes ahead and does it. PC Suite from Nokia enables me to
> choose which folders to synchronise, it lets me choose the direction of
> the synch, it enables me to not synch 'private' stuff, to mark stuff as
> private on the fly and a number of other things. Activesynch doesn't do
> that.

You can do most of that by using categories in outlook.
--
Regards
Jon

> "Elfresh" wrote:
> Just Know Htc makes Excellent Phones
> Great for multitasking

Probably explains why so many AT&T sales rep use HTC over the iPhone. I
haven't run across one iPhone AT&T salesman yet.
(I was looking forward to getting a DSL connection and a laptop 3G card for
home and cell phone stuff came up as I was shopping around their stores).

B~

Jon wrote:
> [email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
>> The Microsoft software is better integrated with Exchange/Outlook in
>> that it just goes ahead and does it. PC Suite from Nokia enables me to
>> choose which folders to synchronise, it lets me choose the direction of
>> the synch, it enables me to not synch 'private' stuff, to mark stuff as
>> private on the fly and a number of other things. Activesynch doesn't do
>> that.
>
> You can do most of that by using categories in outlook.

But I can't set categories on the Windows Smartphone and Activesynch
doesn't have a filter for anything.