Office for your pocket!

iPhone is NOT an business tool.....or Voyager!

The smartassed Linux boys have just ported ALL of Koffice, Linux's best
office suite, to Maemo Linux 4 for the Nokia N800 and N810 running the
new OS2008 version of Maemo Linux.

http://www.koffice.org/
http://geekpenguin.blogspot.com/2007...ice-suite.html

When your favorite iPhoney is headed your way looking for trouble,
quickly boot iTablet from:
http://geekpenguin.blogspot.com/
and tell him it's been ported to Linux tablets.....(c;
iTablet replaces the standard Hindon UI on the Nokia tablets with one
iPhoneys will love...(c;

I'm using rdesktop to run my WinXP boxes by remote control from the
little N800 tablet. I'm typing on it at a local Arby's over Alltel EVDO
for this message. rdesktop runs Micro$oft's Remote Desktop on
XP/NT/VISTA/etc.

The Linux boys couldn't stand it. Now we have AIRX, which runs Xforward
with a user-friendly GUI on Nokia tablets being built....(c;

A Nokia tablet running Kdesktop is gonna be one honey of a business tool
with rdesktop running the whole PC back on your desk at the office from
wherever you are. The only thing it doesn't have is speed enough for
full video and no sound transfer, which an office computer doesn't need.

Think about these possibilities before signing that awful contract for a
Voyager or the iPhone WebTV appliance.....

rdesktop setup instructions are here:
http://beans.seartipy.com/2007/10/29...ndows-desktop-
remotely-from-nokia-n800-using-rdesktop/

He does not give you instructions on how to get through your router, only
inside the LAN (192.168 addresses). To operate the computer from outside
the lan you only have to opan one port (port 3389) so the router will
route your calls from outside on the net to the computer you want to
control. I'll advise you to NOT use this port as Remote Desktop on
Windoze can be configured to use other non-standard ports so the kiddie
crackers have to work too hard to find it. They scan 3389 constantly
looking for Remote Desktop to attack. On an odd port, they'll have to
scan them all to find it. Use a high number...(c;

Open your router's control webpage, click on PORT FORWARDING and add a
new port, the secret new Remote Desktop port not 3389. Forward it to the
IP of the computer you wish to control, like 192.168.1.2 on Netgears.
Now, you tell rdesktop to call your INTERNET IP, the secret port you've
selected, then the router forwards it to the Remote Desktop listening to
that port and you're in! How cool it is!....(c; Video intensive
graphics over a SELLphone link load SLOWLY because of the SELLphone link.
On some wifi, it's quite fast, but not fast enough to watch the movie.

Unless there's some movie on a webpage that's graphic intensive, browsing
webpages using rdesktop from your fav browser on your main computer is
FASTER than loading all that crapware and spam and cookies and spyware
and javascripts to the tablet's own browser...it uses less data,
especially over the SELLphone circuit. You can also see webpages running
things the tablet's browser doesn't support like full JAVA radar from
NOAA. That is also cool. My buddies all think I have found some magic
way of running Google EArth on the tablet....a lie. Google EArth is
running at home and I'm SEEING it on the desktop!

One more little trick. rdesktop turns off all access to the tablet's
virtual keyboards, which are kinda useless without Windows keys. So, you
need the bluetooth keyboard I'm typing on now, OR....you can use the
WINDOWS onscreen keyboard with the stylus! Open START then PROGRAMS then
ACCESSORIES then ACCESSIBILITY and pick ON-SCREEN-KEYBOARD from the menu.
Move it out to the desktop so you can click it directly from rdesktop on
the tablet! There, you have a full WINDOWS keyboard....right on the
tablet. I found that trick tonight...(c; It even has all the win
keyboard keys...

Larry
--
Man this is more fun every day!

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.]
On 2007-12-24, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> iPhone is NOT an business tool.....or Voyager!
>
> The smartassed Linux boys have just ported ALL of Koffice, Linux's best
> office suite, to Maemo Linux 4 for the Nokia N800 and N810 running the
> new OS2008 version of Maemo Linux.

Bah. OpenOffice is the best open-source software suite. :P

--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol

Treos come with the "real thing" built-in.

-Frank

"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A0FD721097DAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> iPhone is NOT an business tool.....or Voyager!
>
> The smartassed Linux boys have just ported ALL of Koffice, Linux's best
> office suite, to Maemo Linux 4 for the Nokia N800 and N810 running the
> new OS2008 version of Maemo Linux.
>
> http://www.koffice.org/
> http://geekpenguin.blogspot.com/2007...ice-suite.html
>
> When your favorite iPhoney is headed your way looking for trouble,
> quickly boot iTablet from:
> http://geekpenguin.blogspot.com/
> and tell him it's been ported to Linux tablets.....(c;
> iTablet replaces the standard Hindon UI on the Nokia tablets with one
> iPhoneys will love...(c;
>
> I'm using rdesktop to run my WinXP boxes by remote control from the
> little N800 tablet. I'm typing on it at a local Arby's over Alltel EVDO
> for this message. rdesktop runs Micro$oft's Remote Desktop on
> XP/NT/VISTA/etc.
>
> The Linux boys couldn't stand it. Now we have AIRX, which runs Xforward
> with a user-friendly GUI on Nokia tablets being built....(c;
>
> A Nokia tablet running Kdesktop is gonna be one honey of a business tool
> with rdesktop running the whole PC back on your desk at the office from
> wherever you are. The only thing it doesn't have is speed enough for
> full video and no sound transfer, which an office computer doesn't need.
>
> Think about these possibilities before signing that awful contract for a
> Voyager or the iPhone WebTV appliance.....
>
> rdesktop setup instructions are here:
> http://beans.seartipy.com/2007/10/29...ndows-desktop-
> remotely-from-nokia-n800-using-rdesktop/
>
> He does not give you instructions on how to get through your router, only
> inside the LAN (192.168 addresses). To operate the computer from outside
> the lan you only have to opan one port (port 3389) so the router will
> route your calls from outside on the net to the computer you want to
> control. I'll advise you to NOT use this port as Remote Desktop on
> Windoze can be configured to use other non-standard ports so the kiddie
> crackers have to work too hard to find it. They scan 3389 constantly
> looking for Remote Desktop to attack. On an odd port, they'll have to
> scan them all to find it. Use a high number...(c;
>
> Open your router's control webpage, click on PORT FORWARDING and add a
> new port, the secret new Remote Desktop port not 3389. Forward it to the
> IP of the computer you wish to control, like 192.168.1.2 on Netgears.
> Now, you tell rdesktop to call your INTERNET IP, the secret port you've
> selected, then the router forwards it to the Remote Desktop listening to
> that port and you're in! How cool it is!....(c; Video intensive
> graphics over a SELLphone link load SLOWLY because of the SELLphone link.
> On some wifi, it's quite fast, but not fast enough to watch the movie.
>
> Unless there's some movie on a webpage that's graphic intensive, browsing
> webpages using rdesktop from your fav browser on your main computer is
> FASTER than loading all that crapware and spam and cookies and spyware
> and javascripts to the tablet's own browser...it uses less data,
> especially over the SELLphone circuit. You can also see webpages running
> things the tablet's browser doesn't support like full JAVA radar from
> NOAA. That is also cool. My buddies all think I have found some magic
> way of running Google EArth on the tablet....a lie. Google EArth is
> running at home and I'm SEEING it on the desktop!
>
> One more little trick. rdesktop turns off all access to the tablet's
> virtual keyboards, which are kinda useless without Windows keys. So, you
> need the bluetooth keyboard I'm typing on now, OR....you can use the
> WINDOWS onscreen keyboard with the stylus! Open START then PROGRAMS then
> ACCESSORIES then ACCESSIBILITY and pick ON-SCREEN-KEYBOARD from the menu.
> Move it out to the desktop so you can click it directly from rdesktop on
> the tablet! There, you have a full WINDOWS keyboard....right on the
> tablet. I found that trick tonight...(c; It even has all the win
> keyboard keys...
>
> Larry
> --
> Man this is more fun every day!
>

At 24 Dec 2007 08:07:41 -0500 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> Why are you bothering with a SELLular phone connection, when you have
> Wifi in that magical little Linux box of yours??
>
> So are you saying the SELLular network and SELLular phones actually have
> worth and value?
>

More importantly, why post on usenet via a remote connection to your home
PC? I have to believe someone's ported an NNTP client to the N800.

I'm posting this from my WinMo "SELLphone" without the aid of my home PC,
using one of the 4 or 5 available NNTP clients available.

I COULD remote into my home PC if I needed to, but that's reserved for the
very few thing I CAN'T do from the phone itself.

Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:slrnfmu92m.9o8.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:

> Bah. OpenOffice is the best open-source software suite. :P
>
> --
> Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
> Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol
>
>
>

Which office suite is best on Voyager and iPhoney?

Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!

How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
1C2806.08074124122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com:

> So are you saying the SELLular network and SELLular phones actually have
> worth and value?
>
>

They're ok for a slow modem when you can't get real connectivity. It's
worth the $25/mo I pay Alltel for EVDO.

Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!

How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:fkp21b$q38$1
@aioe.org:

> More importantly, why post on usenet via a remote connection to your
home
> PC? I have to believe someone's ported an NNTP client to the N800.
>

The biggest benefit to doing usenet and email over the rdesktop client at
home is you don't end up having multiple databases that are not
synchronized. It also makes it very easy to store a message, right on
the home system, rather than having to forward it via email or some other
nonsense. Operating just the one client, in the case of text groups here
it's Xnews, keeps all the messages that have been read, answered,
discarded in one place and avoids the confusion of "did I answer that on
the tablet, already" or "haven't I already read this on the other
system?"

Access is the other thing rdesktop solves. I don't have to worry whether
I can logon to email or Usenetnews from wherever I am on the tablet. As
far as all the providers know, I'm sitting at home, even if I were in
Hawaii sitting in a wifi coffee shop (don't I wish!). I don't have a
Usenetserver account as it comes with my Knology Cable service. I'm an
ISP customer. I cannot access that server from outside Knology Cable,
that I can find, so being able to remotely run the home desktop solves
all access problems of this type. I can also boot Grabit from rdesktop,
or access it if it's already running, to see what its status is
downloading what I want from binary groups. If it is near completion of
its task batch, I can add more files or start downloading from another
group without going home at all. I can add new lists to the download
batch from anywhere I have connectivity, which is everywhere with wifi
and SELLular data. I couldn't download anything if I were running a
usenet client on the tablet. So, running either client by remote
control, rather than native on the tablet gives me the same flexibility I
would have if I were sitting at the keyboard at home....which I'm not at
the moment.

Rdesktop's remote control also allows me to open 60 WinRAR sessions to
compile/decode/store new binaries while I'm away. They'll be sitting
there, all complete (or crashed if the set is bombed) when I get home. I
can also stop and look at how this massive decoding session is going
invoking Quickpar to use the PAR files to fix errant downloads and
restart that crashed winrar session before I get home. Then I won't have
to wait for it to complete while I need the system for other uses loaded
to the gills with solid hard drive lights on the RAID array.

Rdesktop makes a lot of good sense. Too bad it's not available on these
other WebTV tablets. It seems very odd that Apple wouldn't install a
remote desktop in the iPhone to control (and maybe sell) a MAC running at
their houses. I don't think the iPhone can call the MAC at home, can it?

Remote Desktop from the tablet is extremely useful. For a lot of things
you want to do on-the-road, it's a better solution than internal
software......

.....in a business application, it really shines. You have full access to
your database, word processing, calendar, todo list, spreadsheets, any
business software at the office....directly from the tablet (or laptop
for that matter). As the office staff changes the database, when you
call it, unlike one stored on your PDA, the data is up-to-the-second
fresh. No syncing is necessary. See the use of it? If you DO need the
file, no problem. rdesktop supports networking the file structure of the
tablet's two 8GB SD cards to the desktop computer at the office. When
you are logged on, open even old Windows Exploder and the file structure
on the tablet shows up as external network drives. Click and drag files
to the tablet and it sends them to be stored on the tablet, if that suits
your purpose. Of course, you wouldn't want to send huge files over a
SELLphone link, which would take too long. For those, just drop into the
hotel parking lot close to the building and switch to their free
wifi...or iHop or Chick-Fil-A, etc. Connecting from Holiday Inn Express
is as fast as inside my wifi lan at home, nearly.

Larry
--
Don't buy batteries from CellGizmos. My new battery is a pullout that
got cooked inside some phone. The label is cooked and the contacts are
used. Bastards.

On 2007-12-24, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Which office suite is best on Voyager and iPhoney?

Don't know, don't care. Won't ever use VZW again, refuse to use AT&T due
to a predecessor (SBC) attempting to screw me on hundreds of dollars worth of
landline and DSL charges for services they weren't providing, and therefore
will not have the chance to use either phone anytime soon. I have played a
tiny little bit with the iPhone, and it looks cool, but I don't know that I'd
buy one, and I've never tried the Voyager.


--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol

Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:slrnfn0gas.ch6.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:

> Don't know, don't care. Won't ever use VZW again, refuse to use AT&T
> due to a predecessor (SBC) attempting to screw me on hundreds of
> dollars worth of landline and DSL charges for services they weren't
> providing, and therefore will not have the chance to use either phone
> anytime soon. I have played a tiny little bit with the iPhone, and it
> looks cool, but I don't know that I'd buy one, and I've never tried
> the Voyager.
>
>
>

I'm having that same issue, today, with pricegrabber.com's storefront
merchant. Bastard quoted a low price for a new Nokia Li-polymer battery
and delivered one that is obviously a pullout that has been cooked inside a
phone. The label got so hot it discolored and there are post marks from
the phone in the gold contacts.

No telling what its condition is....

Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!

How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?

At 24 Dec 2007 22:41:47 +0000 Larry wrote:

> The biggest benefit to doing usenet and email over the rdesktop
> client at home is you don't end up having multiple databases that
> are not synchronized.

Fair enough as far as Usenet goes, but I use IMAP fr e-mail- everything is
synchronized with the IMAP server, including sent items.

> It also makes it very easy to store a message, right on the home
> system, rather than having to forward it via email or some other
> nonsense.

I do virtually all of my Useet from my WinMo phone, so I'm not so concerned
with storing messages on he dsktop, but I can see your point.

> Rdesktop makes a lot of good sense. Too bad it's not available
> on these other WebTV tablets.


I use the free service from LogMeIn.com for remote access from my WinMo
phone. I could use MS' RDS (Remote Desktop Services), but LogMeIn is much
easier to set up behind firewalls and uses port 80, so it works even behind
a port-limited connection like some hotels use.

> It seems very odd that Apple
> wouldn't install a remote desktop in the iPhone to control (and
> maybe sell) a MAC running at their houses.

I agree, bu the iPhone doesn't seem too "power-user" friendly. (Which
isn't necessarily a bad thing.)

> I don't think the iPhone can call the MAC at home, can it?


Not unless there's a 3rd-party web service for that that I'm unaware of.


> Remote Desktop from the tablet is extremely useful. For a lot of things
> you want to do on-the-road, it's a better solution than internal
> software......

For me it's sort of a last-resort rather than first choice,but yes, it's
darn useful.


> ....in a business application, it really shines. You have full
> access to your database, word processing, calendar, todo list,
> spreadsheets, any business software at the office....directly from
> the tablet (or laptop for that matter).

Yeah, but again, for me, it's last-resort- business docs, in my experience
follow the 80-20 rule- you access 20% of your files 80% of the time. That
20% is already on my phone- the other 80% I can access remotely if need be.

> As the office staff changes the database, when you
> call it, unlike one stored on your PDA, the data is up-to-the-second
> fresh.

That's why the Good Lord (or at least Microsoft) gave us Exchange. Every
device is synched to every other over the 'net in real time.

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:fkqf3b$mev$1@aioe.org:

>
>
> I use the free service from LogMeIn.com for remote access from my
> WinMo phone. I could use MS' RDS (Remote Desktop Services), but
> LogMeIn is much easier to set up behind firewalls and uses port 80,
so
> it works even behind a port-limited connection like some hotels
use.
>
>

So, who are these guys? NOTHING is "free". They usually give you
something like this to collect info or log keystrokes. How do you
know what they are doing and more importantly, who they are.

Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!

How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?

In article <Xns9A116BB5D316noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> > I use the free service from LogMeIn.com for remote access from my
> > WinMo phone. I could use MS' RDS (Remote Desktop Services), but
> > LogMeIn is much easier to set up behind firewalls and uses port 80,
> so
> > it works even behind a port-limited connection like some hotels
> use.
> >
> >
>
> So, who are these guys? NOTHING is "free". They usually give you
> something like this to collect info or log keystrokes. How do you
> know what they are doing and more importantly, who they are.

Watch that, Larry. The tin foil might have a break in it. Better check
your headgear.

Ray Goldenberg <ray@lighthousetravel.com> wrote in news:ray-
84D735.10493225122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com:

> In article <Xns9A116BB5D316noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> > I use the free service from LogMeIn.com for remote access from my
>> > WinMo phone. I could use MS' RDS (Remote Desktop Services), but
>> > LogMeIn is much easier to set up behind firewalls and uses port 80,
>> so
>> > it works even behind a port-limited connection like some hotels
>> use.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> So, who are these guys? NOTHING is "free". They usually give you
>> something like this to collect info or log keystrokes. How do you
>> know what they are doing and more importantly, who they are.
>
> Watch that, Larry. The tin foil might have a break in it. Better
check
> your headgear.
>
>

Why would anyone give away something that costs them real money to run?

Doesn't make sense, does it?

Should you trust a Hungarian company enough to let them have remote
control, root, access to your system, your emails, your personal info
stored on your system?

Who, besides you, can logon to THEIR software?

That's crazy!

Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!

How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?

Larry wrote:

> I'm using rdesktop to run my WinXP boxes by remote control from the
> little N800 tablet. I'm typing on it at a local Arby's over Alltel EVDO
> for this message. rdesktop runs Micro$oft's Remote Desktop on
> XP/NT/VISTA/etc.
>

Why is it that SELLphone use is a great thing as long as it is something
you happen to use it for but everyone else is stupid when they use a
cellphone?

At 25 Dec 2007 15:33:12 +0000 Larry wrote:

> > I use the free service from LogMeIn.com for remote access from my
> > WinMo phone. I could use MS' RDS (Remote Desktop Services), but
> > LogMeIn is much easier to set up behind firewalls and uses port 80,
> so
> > it works even behind a port-limited connection like some hotels
> use.
> >
> >
>
> So, who are these guys? NOTHING is "free". They usually give you
> something like this to collect info or log keystrokes.

Only in your conspiracy-fueled mind. They are a company would provides
this service to business for a subscription fee (like the "GoToMyPC" guys.)
They offer a limited-feature version for free as a "hook" to get you to
buy their paid service. (The free service prevents file transfers like you
do with rdesktop, or I could do with MS' RDS. As a workaround, I just
remotely e-mail myself files.

> How do you
> know what they are doing and more importantly, who they are.


A valid point, but frankly laughable from someone who injects Skype in any
discussion possible. Like with Skype, you have to have a little faith that
the encryption is as tight as they claim. They also claim 3M, AMD and
Raytheon as among their users.

And unlike Skype, at least LogMeIn is headquartered in the US, so I suppose
I could sue them more easily if they stole my data! ;-)