Ever so slightly OT - Mobile phone ring tones

TFGM <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> To stop fraud, they could require you to send your name and address
>>> via an sms message before each call, plus a unique 10 digit pin
>>> number that is unique to each different person in the world. That
>>> way, the carrier could check your details against your number before
>>> each call.

>> Wouldnt stop fraud, I'd just use your number too, stupid.

> If someone was silly enough to provide you with their 10 digit unique
> identifying code, then they deserve to be defrauded don't you think?

Separate matter entirely to your silly claim that it would stop fraud.

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Horry wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2006 17:24:25 -0800, TFGM wrote:
>
> > Rod Speed wrote:
> >> TFGM <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Horry wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:42:45 +1100, Josh B wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:59:14 +1030, Horry (or one of their many
> >>>>> personalities) said......
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I pay for the phone bill? It's HIS phone, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> legally it is HIS responsibility to pay. People like him
> >>>>>>>>>>>> need to face up to thier legal responsibilities.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If your mother made the calls then it is *YOUR*
> >>>>>>>>>>> responsibility to pay the bill.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> No it isn't. The friend is the one who is contracted with
> >>>>>>>>>> with mobile company, NOT the original poster.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Exactly. It isn't like a speeding ticket where the DRIVER
> >>>>>>>>> rather than the OWNER pays the fine. With a mobile phone, it's
> >>>>>>>>> the OWNER who gets the bill, not whoever used the phone.
> >>>>>>>>> Imagine how complicated the billing process would be if the
> >>>>>>>>> telco had to determine the name and address of each person who
> >>>>>>>>> made a call.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It wouldn't just be complicated; it would be impossible. How is
> >>>>>>>> the telco to know who made the calls? That's why the mobile
> >>>>>>>> contracts are drawn the way in which they are.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What if you had to send the carrier an SMS with your name and
> >>>>>>> address before each phone call was made?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not a bad idea, but there'd have to be some sort of fraud
> >>>>>> prevention mechanism in place. Otherwise I'd just send in "Josh
> >>>>>> B" and your address before each call.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Big Three Carriers could have hundreds of teams constantly
> >>>>> mobilised in each suburb of Australia. As soon as an SMS comes in
> >>>>> it would be sent to a team who would visit the address and check if
> >>>>> the person lived there. If no one was at home they could look
> >>>>> through the mail box.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The smaller carriers could contract one of the Big Three to do this
> >>>>> for them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now THAT'S just stupid.
> >>>
> >>> Another way would be for the phone to take a picture of the person
> >>> making the call and sending it to the carrier where it is scanned and
> >>> automatically matched against their database to determine the name and
> >>> details of the person making the call.
> >>
> >> Wouldnt work with Horry, he's so ugly all the cameras
> >> just melt whenever they are pointed at him.
> >
> > Hey Rod, most people stopped using the old 'you're so ugly a camera
> > would melt when pointed at you' joke when they reached grade 2.
>
> Cameras hadn't been invented when I reached grade 2.

I didn't realise you were over 400 years old?

TFGM <[email protected]> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> TFGM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Horry wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:42:45 +1100, Josh B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:59:14 +1030, Horry (or one of their many
>>>>> personalities) said......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I pay for the phone bill? It's HIS phone, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> legally it is HIS responsibility to pay. People like him
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to face up to thier legal responsibilities.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If your mother made the calls then it is *YOUR*
>>>>>>>>>>> responsibility to pay the bill.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No it isn't. The friend is the one who is contracted with
>>>>>>>>>> with mobile company, NOT the original poster.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exactly. It isn't like a speeding ticket where the DRIVER
>>>>>>>>> rather than the OWNER pays the fine. With a mobile phone, it's
>>>>>>>>> the OWNER who gets the bill, not whoever used the phone.
>>>>>>>>> Imagine how complicated the billing process would be if the
>>>>>>>>> telco had to determine the name and address of each person who
>>>>>>>>> made a call.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It wouldn't just be complicated; it would be impossible. How
>>>>>>>> is the telco to know who made the calls? That's why the mobile
>>>>>>>> contracts are drawn the way in which they are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What if you had to send the carrier an SMS with your name and
>>>>>>> address before each phone call was made?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a bad idea, but there'd have to be some sort of fraud
>>>>>> prevention mechanism in place. Otherwise I'd just send in "Josh
>>>>>> B" and your address before each call.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Big Three Carriers could have hundreds of teams constantly
>>>>> mobilised in each suburb of Australia. As soon as an SMS comes in
>>>>> it would be sent to a team who would visit the address and check
>>>>> if the person lived there. If no one was at home they could look
>>>>> through the mail box.
>>>>>
>>>>> The smaller carriers could contract one of the Big Three to do
>>>>> this for them.
>>>>
>>>> Now THAT'S just stupid.
>>>
>>> Another way would be for the phone to take a picture of the person
>>> making the call and sending it to the carrier where it is scanned
>>> and automatically matched against their database to determine the
>>> name and details of the person making the call.
>>
>> Wouldnt work with Horry, he's so ugly all the cameras
>> just melt whenever they are pointed at him.
>
> Hey Rod, most people stopped using the old 'you're so ugly a camera
> would melt when pointed at you' joke when they reached grade 2.

It aint a joke, there's a reason his 'parents' called him Horry, ****wit.

TFGM wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>>TFGM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Horry wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:42:45 +1100, Josh B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:59:14 +1030, Horry (or one of their many
>>>>>personalities) said......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Why should I pay for the phone bill? It's HIS phone, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>legally it is HIS responsibility to pay. People like him
>>>>>>>>>>>>need to face up to thier legal responsibilities.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If your mother made the calls then it is *YOUR*
>>>>>>>>>>>responsibility to pay the bill.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>No it isn't. The friend is the one who is contracted with
>>>>>>>>>>with mobile company, NOT the original poster.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Exactly. It isn't like a speeding ticket where the DRIVER
>>>>>>>>>rather than the OWNER pays the fine. With a mobile phone, it's
>>>>>>>>>the OWNER who gets the bill, not whoever used the phone.
>>>>>>>>>Imagine how complicated the billing process would be if the
>>>>>>>>>telco had to determine the name and address of each person who
>>>>>>>>>made a call.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It wouldn't just be complicated; it would be impossible. How is
>>>>>>>>the telco to know who made the calls? That's why the mobile
>>>>>>>>contracts are drawn the way in which they are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What if you had to send the carrier an SMS with your name and
>>>>>>>address before each phone call was made?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not a bad idea, but there'd have to be some sort of fraud
>>>>>>prevention mechanism in place. Otherwise I'd just send in "Josh
>>>>>>B" and your address before each call.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Big Three Carriers could have hundreds of teams constantly
>>>>>mobilised in each suburb of Australia. As soon as an SMS comes in
>>>>>it would be sent to a team who would visit the address and check if
>>>>>the person lived there. If no one was at home they could look
>>>>>through the mail box.
>>>>>
>>>>>The smaller carriers could contract one of the Big Three to do this
>>>>>for them.
>>>>
>>>>Now THAT'S just stupid.
>>>
>>>Another way would be for the phone to take a picture of the person
>>>making the call and sending it to the carrier where it is scanned and
>>>automatically matched against their database to determine the name and
>>>details of the person making the call.
>>
>>Wouldnt work with Horry, he's so ugly all the cameras
>>just melt whenever they are pointed at him.
>
>
> Hey Rod, most people stopped using the old 'you're so ugly a camera
> would melt when pointed at you' joke when they reached grade 2.
>

you made it to grade 2?? so you have no excuse then for your warped
sense of sharing / taking responsibilty then?

This whole thread is ridiculous

"TFGM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Horry wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:28:40 +1100, Josh B wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:59:15 +1030, Horry (or one of their many
> > > personalities) said......
> > >
> > >
> > >>>>>> Why should I pay for the phone bill? It's HIS phone, and legally
it is
> > >>>>>> HIS responsibility to pay. People like him need to face up to
thier
> > >>>>>> legal responsibilities.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If your mother made the calls then it is *YOUR* responsibility to
pay the bill.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> No it isn't. The friend is the one who is contracted with with
mobile
> > >>>> company, NOT the original poster.
> > >>>
> > >>> Exactly. It isn't like a speeding ticket where the DRIVER rather
than
> > >>> the OWNER pays the fine. With a mobile phone, it's the OWNER who
gets
> > >>> the bill, not whoever used the phone. Imagine how complicated the
> > >>> billing process would be if the telco had to determine the name and
> > >>> address of each person who made a call.
> > >>
> > >> It wouldn't just be complicated; it would be impossible. How is the
telco
> > >> to know who made the calls? That's why the mobile contracts are
drawn the
> > >> way in which they are.
> > >
> > > What if you had to send the carrier an SMS with your name and address
> > > before each phone call was made?
> >
> > Not a bad idea, but there'd have to be some sort of fraud prevention
> > mechanism in place. Otherwise I'd just send in "Josh B" and your
address
> > before each call.
>
> To stop fraud, they could require you to send your name and address via
> an sms message before each call, plus a unique 10 digit pin number that
> is unique to each different person in the world. That way, the carrier
> could check your details against your number before each call. It would
> also help reduce unemployment too.
>

> >>>> It wouldn't just be complicated; it would be impossible. How is the
telco
> >>>> to know who made the calls? That's why the mobile contracts are
drawn the
> >>>> way in which they are.
> >>>
> >>> What if you had to send the carrier an SMS with your name and address
> >>> before each phone call was made?
> >>
> >> Not a bad idea, but there'd have to be some sort of fraud prevention
> >> mechanism in place. Otherwise I'd just send in "Josh B" and your
address
> >> before each call.
> >
> > The Big Three Carriers could have hundreds of teams constantly mobilised
> > in each suburb of Australia. As soon as an SMS comes in it would be sent
> > to a team who would visit the address and check if the person lived
there.
> > If no one was at home they could look through the mail box.
> >
> > The smaller carriers could contract one of the Big Three to do this for
> > them.
>
> Now THAT'S just stupid.

You took the bait, dip****

"TFGM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Josh B wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:59:14 +1030, Horry (or one of their many
> > personalities) said......
> >
> >
> > > >>>>>> Why should I pay for the phone bill? It's HIS phone, and
legally it is
> > > >>>>>> HIS responsibility to pay. People like him need to face up to
thier
> > > >>>>>> legal responsibilities.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> If your mother made the calls then it is *YOUR* responsibility
to pay the bill.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> No it isn't. The friend is the one who is contracted with with
mobile
> > > >>>> company, NOT the original poster.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Exactly. It isn't like a speeding ticket where the DRIVER rather
than
> > > >>> the OWNER pays the fine. With a mobile phone, it's the OWNER who
gets
> > > >>> the bill, not whoever used the phone. Imagine how complicated the
> > > >>> billing process would be if the telco had to determine the name
and
> > > >>> address of each person who made a call.
> > > >>
> > > >> It wouldn't just be complicated; it would be impossible. How is
the telco
> > > >> to know who made the calls? That's why the mobile contracts are
drawn the
> > > >> way in which they are.
> > > >
> > > > What if you had to send the carrier an SMS with your name and
address
> > > > before each phone call was made?
> > >
> > > Not a bad idea, but there'd have to be some sort of fraud prevention
> > > mechanism in place. Otherwise I'd just send in "Josh B" and your
address
> > > before each call.
> >
> > The Big Three Carriers could have hundreds of teams constantly mobilised
> > in each suburb of Australia. As soon as an SMS comes in it would be sent
> > to a team who would visit the address and check if the person lived
there.
> > If no one was at home they could look through the mail box.
> >
> > The smaller carriers could contract one of the Big Three to do this for
> > them.
>
> Now that's just stupid.
> Wouldn't it be easier just to bill the OWNER of the phone?

No, the owner of the SERVICE

"Horry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:54:05 GMT, Michael wrote:
>
> >>>>>> It wouldn't just be complicated; it would be impossible. How is
the
> > telco
> >>>>>> to know who made the calls? That's why the mobile contracts are
> > drawn the
> >>>>>> way in which they are.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What if you had to send the carrier an SMS with your name and
address
> >>>>> before each phone call was made?
> >>>>
> >>>> Not a bad idea, but there'd have to be some sort of fraud prevention
> >>>> mechanism in place. Otherwise I'd just send in "Josh B" and your
> > address
> >>>> before each call.
> >>>
> >>> The Big Three Carriers could have hundreds of teams constantly
mobilised
> >>> in each suburb of Australia. As soon as an SMS comes in it would be
sent
> >>> to a team who would visit the address and check if the person lived
> > there.
> >>> If no one was at home they could look through the mail box.
> >>>
> >>> The smaller carriers could contract one of the Big Three to do this
for
> >>> them.
> >>
> >> Now THAT'S just stupid.
> >
> > You took the bait, dip****
>
> Huh?

You ARE stupid.

Horry wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:28:40 +1100, Josh B wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:59:15 +1030, Horry (or one of their many
>>personalities) said......
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>Why should I pay for the phone bill? It's HIS phone, and legally it is
>>>>>>>HIS responsibility to pay. People like him need to face up to thier
>>>>>>>legal responsibilities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If your mother made the calls then it is *YOUR* responsibility to pay the bill.
>>>>>
>>>>>No it isn't. The friend is the one who is contracted with with mobile
>>>>>company, NOT the original poster.
>>>>
>>>>Exactly. It isn't like a speeding ticket where the DRIVER rather than
>>>>the OWNER pays the fine. With a mobile phone, it's the OWNER who gets
>>>>the bill, not whoever used the phone. Imagine how complicated the
>>>>billing process would be if the telco had to determine the name and
>>>>address of each person who made a call.
>>>
>>>It wouldn't just be complicated; it would be impossible. How is the telco
>>>to know who made the calls? That's why the mobile contracts are drawn the
>>>way in which they are.
>>
>>What if you had to send the carrier an SMS with your name and address
>>before each phone call was made?
>
>
> Not a bad idea, but there'd have to be some sort of fraud prevention
> mechanism in place. Otherwise I'd just send in "Josh B" and your address
> before each call.
>
>
>

Nokia are currently designing phones that you scan over the microchip
you will have imbedded in your wrist with all your details on the phone
will send your details to the telco as you make the call no matter whose
phone you are using

All the telcos will then send each person a bill to their registered address

Get Fscked

"Josh B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:53:24 GMT, Michael (or one of their many
> personalities) said......
>
>
> > This whole thread is ridiculous
> >
> > "TFGM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > Horry wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:28:40 +1100, Josh B wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:59:15 +1030, Horry (or one of their many
> > > > > personalities) said......
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>>> Why should I pay for the phone bill? It's HIS phone, and
legally
> > it is
> > > > >>>>>> HIS responsibility to pay. People like him need to face up to
> > thier
> > > > >>>>>> legal responsibilities.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> If your mother made the calls then it is *YOUR* responsibility
to
> > pay the bill.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> No it isn't. The friend is the one who is contracted with with
> > mobile
> > > > >>>> company, NOT the original poster.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Exactly. It isn't like a speeding ticket where the DRIVER rather
> > than
> > > > >>> the OWNER pays the fine. With a mobile phone, it's the OWNER who
> > gets
> > > > >>> the bill, not whoever used the phone. Imagine how complicated
the
> > > > >>> billing process would be if the telco had to determine the name
and
> > > > >>> address of each person who made a call.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It wouldn't just be complicated; it would be impossible. How is
the
> > telco
> > > > >> to know who made the calls? That's why the mobile contracts are
> > drawn the
> > > > >> way in which they are.
> > > > >
> > > > > What if you had to send the carrier an SMS with your name and
address
> > > > > before each phone call was made?
> > > >
> > > > Not a bad idea, but there'd have to be some sort of fraud prevention
> > > > mechanism in place. Otherwise I'd just send in "Josh B" and your
> > address
> > > > before each call.
> > >
> > > To stop fraud, they could require you to send your name and address
via
> > > an sms message before each call, plus a unique 10 digit pin number
that
> > > is unique to each different person in the world. That way, the carrier
> > > could check your details against your number before each call. It
would
> > > also help reduce unemployment too.
>
> Please do not top post.