Indigenous Hunter reverse directory site.

"ant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Michael wrote:
> > "Wolfgang Wildeblood" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > message news:[email protected]...
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>> <http://www.privacylawyer.ca/blog/atom.xml>
> >>
> >>> The website - www.boonghunter.com - also has
> >>> disturbed Telstra, which yesterday described it as "a gross invasion
> >>> of privacy".
> >>
> >> Odd they didn't consider it a "gross invasion of privacy" when they
> >> sold that database to all the direct marketing firms? Perhaps they
> >> mean an invasion of their private revenue stream?
> >
> > Agreed
>
> Too right. I get Spam calls every day, and they all use the apellation on
my
> Telstra bills, and it's used no where else! Although often they announce
> that they ARE from Telstra. I'm not in the phone book, either. Yet there
> they go. I really resent it.

If they are from Telstra, just ask them not to call. A bunch of product
codes go on your service, and you never get a call again.
Did it years and years ago
>
> --
> ant
>
>

---

› See More: Indigenous Hunter reverse directory site.

then make your number silent, tightarse

"Neil Gerace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
> > "Whoever is behind this website has no regard for
> > Australians' rights to have their personal contact information handled
> > responsibly and with respect."
>
> I wish I had the right to have my personal contact information not handled
> at all, especially by Telstra.
>
>

On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:00:22 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Big LN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > On Thu, 25 May 2006 16:44:02 +1000, Scornful <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Thu, 25 May 2006 16:02:14 +0930, horacewachope wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> <http://www.privacylawyer.ca/blog/atom.xml>
>> >>>
>> >>> The Privacy Commissioner of Australia is poised to investigate a
>> >>> controvertial "reverse directory" in that country.
>> >>
>> >>It will be interesting to read the results of the investigation, and to
>> >>see how much it costs in taxpayer dollars.
>> >>
>> >>These politically correct clowns are impervious to rational thought.
>> >
>> > I'm more concerned about the "telecommunications industry sources" who
>> > think that an "overseas computer hacker" has gained access to the
>> > IPND to create the site.
>> >
>> > That's just mind numbingly STUPID.
>> >
>> > Anyone with even a modicum of knowledge about these sorts of things
>> > (let alone a someone classed as a "telecommunications industry
>> > source") , would know that it's far, far, far more likely that
>> > someone's just stripped the data from a CD-ROM phone directory.
>> >
>> > The outdatedness of parts of it (together with the lack of any silent
>> > numbers appearing in it) is a bit of a give-away.
>>
>> I reckon he just screen scraped the info from the online White Pages. They
>
>How do you screen scrape online white pages?

Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V.

HTH.

On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:03:16 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> >Nope the number was always correctly listed as silent. I have check it
>> >using the online whitepages on a number of occasions.
>>
>> What does that prove? Only that it's not listed when you "forward
>> search" for it. Again, it's far more likely that Telstra has made a
>> mistake, and the number isn't actually "listed" as a silent number
>> (even though you're paying the monthly fee, and nothing comes up on
>> Whitepages.com.au when you seach for the name).
>
>If it doesnt come up on Whitepages then it IS silent

Telstra (or its systems) have been known to **** up limited occasions
when it comes to silent numbers. If he's being charged for his silent
number, and the number has always been silent since being connected,
and the BoongHunter site is listing his "silent" number, then it's
more likely to be the fault of Telstra than the fault of an
international IPND hacker.

Michael <[email protected]> wrote
> Mike <[email protected]> wrote
>> Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote

>>> The way to demonstrate that the database is only partial (by
>>> which I mean VERY incomplete) is simply to dump a whole street.

>> Its not as simple as that. The database is badly indexed.
>> For example, for one person I tried, I got nothing for his street
>> or phone number. But giving his name, I got the listing. Still
>> can't get his neighbors.

> The database is indexed just fine, thanks.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a ****ing clue when it comes to databases,
or anything else at all, either.

On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:32:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>> Mike <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote
>
>>>> The way to demonstrate that the database is only partial (by
>>>> which I mean VERY incomplete) is simply to dump a whole street.
>
>>> Its not as simple as that. The database is badly indexed.
>>> For example, for one person I tried, I got nothing for his street
>>> or phone number. But giving his name, I got the listing. Still
>>> can't get his neighbors.
>
>> The database is indexed just fine, thanks.
>
>Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
>never ever had a ****ing clue when it comes to databases,
>or anything else at all, either.

Why's he defending the indexing of that site's database, anyway?

[email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:32:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Mike <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote
>>
>>>>> The way to demonstrate that the database is only partial (by
>>>>> which I mean VERY incomplete) is simply to dump a whole street.
>>
>>>> Its not as simple as that. The database is badly indexed.
>>>> For example, for one person I tried, I got nothing for his street
>>>> or phone number. But giving his name, I got the listing. Still
>>>> can't get his neighbors.
>>
>>> The database is indexed just fine, thanks.
>>
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
>> never ever had a ****ing clue when it comes to databases,
>> or anything else at all, either.
>
> Why's he defending the indexing of that site's database, anyway?

Either he actually is so stupid that he doesnt realise that he hasnt
got a clue about databases, or he's attempting to posture as if he does.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:32:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> Mike <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote
>>>
>>>>>> The way to demonstrate that the database is only partial (by
>>>>>> which I mean VERY incomplete) is simply to dump a whole street.
>>>
>>>>> Its not as simple as that. The database is badly indexed.
>>>>> For example, for one person I tried, I got nothing for his street
>>>>> or phone number. But giving his name, I got the listing. Still
>>>>> can't get his neighbors.
>>>
>>>> The database is indexed just fine, thanks.
>>>
>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
>>> never ever had a ****ing clue when it comes to databases,
>>> or anything else at all, either.
>>
>> Why's he defending the indexing of that site's database, anyway?
>
> Either he actually is so stupid that he doesnt realise that he hasnt
> got a clue about databases, or he's attempting to posture as if he
> does.

Ask him what the transaction logs are for..........


--
Kwyj

Kwyjibo. <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:32:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Mike <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>> Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> The way to demonstrate that the database is only partial (by
>>>>>>> which I mean VERY incomplete) is simply to dump a whole street.
>>>>
>>>>>> Its not as simple as that. The database is badly indexed.
>>>>>> For example, for one person I tried, I got nothing for his street
>>>>>> or phone number. But giving his name, I got the listing. Still
>>>>>> can't get his neighbors.
>>>>
>>>>> The database is indexed just fine, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
>>>> never ever had a ****ing clue when it comes to databases,
>>>> or anything else at all, either.
>>>
>>> Why's he defending the indexing of that site's database, anyway?
>>
>> Either he actually is so stupid that he doesnt realise that he hasnt
>> got a clue about databases, or he's attempting to posture as if he
>> does.
>
> Ask him what the transaction logs are for..........

No thanks, there is only so much pig ignorant **** anyone can take.

On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:26:29 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Kwyjibo. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:32:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>> Mike <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>> Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The way to demonstrate that the database is only partial (by
>>>>>>>> which I mean VERY incomplete) is simply to dump a whole street.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Its not as simple as that. The database is badly indexed.
>>>>>>> For example, for one person I tried, I got nothing for his street
>>>>>>> or phone number. But giving his name, I got the listing. Still
>>>>>>> can't get his neighbors.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The database is indexed just fine, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
>>>>> never ever had a ****ing clue when it comes to databases,
>>>>> or anything else at all, either.
>>>>
>>>> Why's he defending the indexing of that site's database, anyway?
>>>
>>> Either he actually is so stupid that he doesnt realise that he hasnt
>>> got a clue about databases, or he's attempting to posture as if he
>>> does.
>>
>> Ask him what the transaction logs are for..........
>
> No thanks, there is only so much pig ignorant **** anyone can take.

Your very existence gives the lie to that.

Michael wrote:

> If they are from Telstra, just ask them not to call. A bunch of
> product codes go on your service, and you never get a call again.
> Did it years and years ago

I'll try that next time. I don't pay for that phone line every month so they
can try to sell me more stuff! No wonder people are nuking land lines.


--
ant

On Thu, 25 May 2006 16:02:14 +0930, horacewachope proclaimed:
<snip>
> Sensis, Telstra's online directory division, said it was "appalled" by the
> website, which provides "reverse search" access to address and telephone
> numbers of individuals. "Unlike the White Pages directory, where you need
> to know the name of the person you are searching for before you can find
> their details, reverse searching enables people to search for your private
> details without knowing who you are," Sensis Corporate Affairs Manager
> Karina White said. "For example, you can find out someone's personal
> details just by knowing the street they live on. "Whoever is behind this
> website has no regard for Australians' rights to have their personal
> contact information handled responsibly and with respect."

LOL... excellent. Meanwhile, these same people blackmail you to the
tune of $50 per year not to publish your personal details such as
name, address and phone number.
--
/J/
Cut the crap to email me...
Webcam: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/glen1070/x.jpg


Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita http://www.x-privat.org/join.php

On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:07:04 +0000, Michael proclaimed:

> then make your number silent, tightarse

Oh, you mean blackmail?

>
> "Neil Gerace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]... >
> <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> news:[email protected]... >
>>
>> > "Whoever is behind this website has no regard for > > Australians'
> rights to have their personal contact information handled > > responsibly
> and with respect."
>>
>> I wish I had the right to have my personal contact information not
> handled > at all, especially by Telstra.
>>
>>
--
/J/
Cut the crap to email me...
Webcam: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/glen1070/x.jpg


Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita http://www.x-privat.org/join.php

On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:05:05 +0000, Michael proclaimed:

> If they are from Telstra, just ask them not to call. A bunch of product
> codes go on your service, and you never get a call again. Did it years and
> years ago

Bull****! I've done this 3 times over the past few years and at best I get
a reprieve for a couple of months... after that again the unsolicited
phone calls from tel$tra begin again.


--
/J/
Cut the crap to email me...
Webcam: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/glen1070/x.jpg


Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita http://www.x-privat.org/join.php

On Fri, 26 May 2006 01:58:05 +0930, horacewachope proclaimed:

> On Fri, 26 May 2006 01:47:18 +0930, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 26 May 2006 01:41:42 +0930, [email protected] wrote: >
>>>On Fri, 26 May 2006 01:34:16 +0930, [email protected] wrote: >>
>>>>On 25 May 2006 17:49:47 +0200, "EnjoyDialup" <[email protected]>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>The owner of the site has gone to some trouble to mask their
> identity and >>>>>>location. I would not be surprised if it was an
> Australian, despite the >>>>>>blurb to the contra on the site. >>>>>
>>>>>> What trouble did he or she go to? Not putting "name and location"
> up >>>>> on the site (when "name and location" has no relevance to the
>>>>>> "service" the site is offering)? Wow. That's some trouble. >>>>
>>>>>You need to do a lot more than just read the webpage to find what
> measures >>>>he has taken to hide his identity. >>>
>>>>What? The details held by the domain name registrar? >>>
>>>>It seems it wasn't too hard for some solicitor working for an ALS to
>>>>track the owner down via the host. >>
>>>They even have a policy SPECIFICALLY created for these situations: >>
>>>http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/popup/...apolicies.aspx >
>>And I bet Quicknet Internet Service Provider know precisely who he is,
>>as well.
>>
>><http://www.quicknet.com.au>
>>
>>God, you're a moron.
>
> And I'd bet Nigel Howe's life that someone living in a certain unit on
> Dennis Road, Springwood, QLD 4127 also knows.

That's one bet well worth losing.

--
/J/
Cut the crap to email me...
Webcam: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/glen1070/x.jpg


Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita http://www.x-privat.org/join.php