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  1. #1
    Intel Inside
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    What's the latest on Telstra's implementation of the 3G UMTS 850 network? eg
    startup date
    It appears to be a very quiet topic.





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  2. #2
    Nick Adams
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    Re: Telstra 3G 850

    Intel Inside wrote:
    > What's the latest on Telstra's implementation of the 3G UMTS 850 network? eg
    > startup date
    > It appears to be a very quiet topic.


    ~3 months.



  3. #3
    Intel Inside
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    Re: Telstra 3G 850

    Does this mean in 3 months everyone who wants to use it will require a new
    phone?.


    "Nick Adams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Intel Inside wrote:
    >> What's the latest on Telstra's implementation of the 3G UMTS 850 network?
    >> eg
    >> startup date
    >> It appears to be a very quiet topic.

    >
    > ~3 months.






  4. #4
    Paul Day
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    Re: Telstra 3G 850

    On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 05:30:06 GMT Intel Inside may have written:
    > Does this mean in 3 months everyone who wants to use it will require a new
    > phone?.


    Pretty much.

    PD

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  5. #5
    Nick Adams
    Guest

    Re: Telstra 3G 850

    Paul Day wrote:
    > On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 05:30:06 GMT Intel Inside may have written:
    >> Does this mean in 3 months everyone who wants to use it will require a new
    >> phone?.

    >
    > Pretty much.


    If you *want* to use it then yes you will need a new phone. If you wish
    to continue using the CDMA, GSM or current 2100Mhz 3G network then you
    can continue as usual.

    In short, the existing networks will be around for a while longer.



  6. #6
    Kralizec Craig
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    Re: Telstra 3G 850

    "Intel Inside" <[email protected]> writes:

    >What's the latest on Telstra's implementation of the 3G UMTS 850 network? eg
    >startup date
    >It appears to be a very quiet topic.


    Telstra has a proposal before Sutherland Shire Council at the moment to
    erect a new 30 metre high tower to provide 3G coverage for the section of
    the Princes Highway between roughly Heathcote and the top of the rise half
    way to the Helensburgh/StanwellPark turnoff.

    The proposal is classified 'high risk' so council has to ask us for our
    views. 8-) It's taken two years to get to the point where Telstra wants to
    install the tower and council has given just two weeks to lodge objections.
    I don't really see any reason to object at present but I'm going to look at
    the full DA plans to see if it has radiation plots for the proposed antennas
    to see what possible effects there might be on things outside the main
    'target' radiation zones of each antenna.

    At the moment there are two proposed WCDMA antennas - one pointing north
    along the line of the highway and the other pointing slight south-west of
    due south again following the line of the highway.

    Currently there is no Telstra 3G coverage here (which is good - less
    spurious RF the better), and no Unwired coverage either (one of the proposed
    sets of future antennas looks to be for wireless networking going on the
    plans).

    Regards,

    Craig.


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  7. #7
    bacco007
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    Re: Telstra 3G 850

    Kralizec Craig wrote:

    > The proposal is classified 'high risk' so council has to ask us for our
    > views. 8-) It's taken two years to get to the point where Telstra wants to
    > install the tower and council has given just two weeks to lodge objections.
    > I don't really see any reason to object at present but I'm going to look at
    > the full DA plans to see if it has radiation plots for the proposed antennas
    > to see what possible effects there might be on things outside the main
    > 'target' radiation zones of each antenna.



    Interesting that its being considered by Council - unless there is a
    serious environmental issue or its on council land / asset, Telstra dont
    usually lodge them with council and push through under the
    Telecommunications Act.

    One failed here after going through council, however because it was
    going to be installed on a council asset it required approval from
    council and those living within cooee of the asset had to be informed.
    People power won that day, but it looks like people power wont stop
    the Austar Unwired project...



  8. #8
    Michael
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    Re: Telstra 3G 850


    "bacco007" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Kralizec Craig wrote:
    >
    >> The proposal is classified 'high risk' so council has to ask us for our
    >> views. 8-) It's taken two years to get to the point where Telstra wants
    >> to
    >> install the tower and council has given just two weeks to lodge
    >> objections.
    >> I don't really see any reason to object at present but I'm going to look
    >> at
    >> the full DA plans to see if it has radiation plots for the proposed
    >> antennas
    >> to see what possible effects there might be on things outside the main
    >> 'target' radiation zones of each antenna.

    >
    >
    > Interesting that its being considered by Council - unless there is a
    > serious environmental issue or its on council land / asset, Telstra dont
    > usually lodge them with council and push through under the
    > Telecommunications Act.
    >
    > One failed here after going through council, however because it was going
    > to be installed on a council asset it required approval from council and
    > those living within cooee of the asset had to be informed. People power
    > won that day, but it looks like people power wont stop


    And they get their just rewards, dropouts and call congestion





  9. #9
    pedigree
    Guest

    Re: Telstra 3G 850


    I used to work for Telstra as a Telemarketer. We had "confidential"
    training on the new 3G 850 network.

    You can quote me when I say, Telstra's 3G 850 network will be rolled
    out in the first quarter of 2007. But customers will be informed via
    mail/email about it before xmas.

    This is why the CDMA network is being "phased out". Telstra is only
    going to turn off CDMA when 3G 850 offers equal or better coverage. I
    was on a campaign myself, migrating customers who had CDMA phones to
    the GSM or
    3G 2100 network. My suggestion would be, NEVER buy a 3G 2100 phone as
    they will NOT work on the new 850 network.

    Customers who are still on a contract with their CDMA phone when it
    gets phased out will have their contract broken for free if they decide
    to take up
    another phone plan. (customer's aren't supposed to know this mind you)

    Other things on the 850 network are:
    - You'll be able to watch foxtel on your phone for a tenth of the
    price
    of normal foxtel. And this isn't the dodgy "tv on your mobile". This
    will
    be faster and clearer.

    - Video calls in the country. Wherever you can get existing GSM or
    CDMA
    coverage.. you'll be able to use 3G features like video calling.

    one other thing is, only Telstra will have this new 3G 850 network. And
    Telstra
    has a massive contract with a new brand of phones.. one that Telstra
    hasn't
    used before. (I wasn't told who it was, as it was on a higher level of
    confidentiality"

    Cheers


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  10. #10
    Graeme Willox
    Guest

    Re: Telstra 3G 850

    pedigree wrote:

    > Customers who are still on a contract with their CDMA phone when it
    > gets phased out will have their contract broken for free if they decide
    > to take up
    > another phone plan. (customer's aren't supposed to know this mind you)


    Not to shoot the messenger, but this is hardly a secret or a surprise.
    Unless a customer is otherwise in breach of their contract, they can
    hardly do otherwise. They can hardly elect not to provide CDMA service
    and then penalize customers for not continuing to pay for something they
    choose no longer to provide.

    > Other things on the 850 network are:
    > - You'll be able to watch foxtel on your phone for a tenth of the
    > price
    > of normal foxtel. And this isn't the dodgy "tv on your mobile". This
    > will
    > be faster and clearer.
    >
    > - Video calls in the country. Wherever you can get existing GSM or
    > CDMA
    > coverage.. you'll be able to use 3G features like video calling.


    I'd love to know the stats from 3 (being the only mobile phone company
    which only has a 3G service) what percentage of people make video calls
    other than when they first get the phone. I always imagine it's
    something which people might use for its gimmicky value when they first
    connect, but would then use rarely if at all. I think that most people
    will mainly be interested in whether they can make calls with similar
    clarity to GSM or CDMA as they can in the places where they make calls
    now, whether that be in the middle of a city or out bush.



  11. #11
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Telstra 3G 850


    "pedigree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]...
    >
    > I used to work for Telstra as a Telemarketer. We had "confidential"
    > training on the new 3G 850 network.
    >
    > You can quote me when I say, Telstra's 3G 850 network will be rolled
    > out in the first quarter of 2007. But customers will be informed via


    Heh. Your dates are way out.

    > 3G 2100 network. My suggestion would be, NEVER buy a 3G 2100 phone as
    > they will NOT work on the new 850 network.


    You sure you aint one of those rocket scientists?

    > Customers who are still on a contract with their CDMA phone when it
    > gets phased out will have their contract broken for free if they decide
    > to take up
    > another phone plan. (customer's aren't supposed to know this mind you)


    Of course they should. You can't close a network and contract customers to
    that closed network.






  12. #12
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Telstra 3G 850

    > I'd love to know the stats from 3 (being the only mobile phone company
    > which only has a 3G service) what percentage of people make video calls
    > other than when they first get the phone. I always imagine it's


    I think almost everyone uses it once, and then not again

    > connect, but would then use rarely if at all. I think that most people
    > will mainly be interested in whether they can make calls with similar
    > clarity to GSM or CDMA as they can in the places where they make calls
    > now, whether that be in the middle of a city or out bush.


    Clarity hasnt been an issue with any network for years now.





  13. #13
    Paul Day
    Guest

    Re: Telstra 3G 850

    On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:04:03 GMT Michael may have written:
    > > You can quote me when I say, Telstra's 3G 850 network will be rolled
    > > out in the first quarter of 2007. But customers will be informed via


    > Heh. Your dates are way out.


    Yours haven't been any better so far Michael.

    PD

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  14. #14
    Paul Day
    Guest

    Re: Telstra 3G 850

    On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:36:24 +1000 pedigree may have written:
    > You can quote me when I say,


    I'd rather not.

    > Telstra's 3G 850 network will be rolled out in the first quarter of
    > 2007. But customers will be informed via mail/email about it before
    > xmas.


    The signs seem to be pointing towards a brought-forward release date of
    next month.

    > This is why the CDMA network is being "phased out". Telstra is only
    > going to turn off CDMA when 3G 850 offers equal or better coverage.


    Yup, as they've been promising the Senate Enquiries - wether they hold
    that promise or not is open to debate.

    > I was on a campaign myself, migrating customers who had CDMA phones to
    > the GSM or 3G 2100 network. My suggestion would be, NEVER buy a 3G
    > 2100 phone as they will NOT work on the new 850 network.


    I think you need to tell that to some of your coworkers rather than this
    news-group.

    > Other things on the 850 network are:


    > - You'll be able to watch foxtel on your phone for a tenth of the
    > price of normal foxtel. And this isn't the dodgy "tv on your mobile".
    > This will be faster and clearer.


    Two weeks behind the media coverage.

    > - Video calls in the country. Wherever you can get existing GSM or
    > CDMA coverage.. you'll be able to use 3G features like video calling.


    Except when the cell-fade due to congestion reduces your bandwidth to
    nil.

    > one other thing is, only Telstra will have this new 3G 850 network.
    > And Telstra has a massive contract with a new brand of phones.. one
    > that Telstra hasn't used before. (I wasn't told who it was, as it was
    > on a higher level of confidentiality"


    Can't be that confidential when it's in the media: Chinese giant ZTE.

    PD

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  15. #15
    pedigree
    Guest

    Re: Telstra 3G 850


    >The signs seem to be pointing towards a brought-forward release date

    of
    >next month.


    Next month as in October or November?
    When they trained me, they were definate that it would be early 2007, I
    haven't heard of any earlier release dates. But we'll just have to wait
    and see.


    I think you need to tell that to some of your coworkers rather than
    this
    news-group.

    Actually I had heaps of customers calling up and wanting this new 3G
    2100 as an "incentive". I told to hundreds of customers to just wait
    untill early next year. Heh, that's probably why I didn't get much
    sales at the call centre.
    I actually left the job, because a lot of people where doing a lot of
    shifty business, but that's another story

    Yeah, and all you guys are right... who's gonna acutally make video
    calls? I admit I've made one, only one. But a lot of people are sold on
    the fact that it has video calling capabilities. Like a Ferrari, your
    not gonna reach top speed on Australian roads, but hey, you like the
    car because it can


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