Information...3g

"brian w edginton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 06:27:51 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>"Used Car Dude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> Since when does 3g = NextGen?
>>
>>3G = NextG network, but NextG is not the sum of all 3G network
>
> That's good. Informative, too/
>
>
> Anyway. got my "3G" phone, yesterday.
> When it connects to the network, I get a "2G" symbol on my screen.
> Tricky bastards, eh?

How is that relevant to whether your phone is 3G capable?

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> Sorry...being a fool helps keep me sane.

dont apologise

> Might try something else, one day.
> What do you do?
> (it ain't a big success)
> Ok...a laptop is a PC.
> I ****ing knew that.
> But, why does Telstra discriminate between laptops and PCs??

Is what way do they discriminate?

> Anyway, thanks, Michael!

you are so most welcome

> your post was sooooo bloody informative.

i agree

> Why the **** do you come here if you,already, know everything?

to teach mere mortals like you

> To show off and become famous like "you know who".


i follow in his footsteps
>
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>
> If this was a perfect world, we, probably, wouldn't
> be in it.

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 07:19:03 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"brian w edginton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 06:27:51 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Used Car Dude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> Since when does 3g = NextGen?
>>>
>>>3G = NextG network, but NextG is not the sum of all 3G network
>>
>> That's good. Informative, too/
>>
>>
>> Anyway. got my "3G" phone, yesterday.
>> When it connects to the network, I get a "2G" symbol on my screen.
>> Tricky bastards, eh?
>
>How is that relevant to whether your phone is 3G capable?
>


Typo.VB is a hobby.....makes typos happen a bit too often.

The symbol I get is "3G"
Glad you are here!
Would be a boring group without you.
Keep up the good work.

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If this was a perfect world, we, probably, wouldn't
be in it.

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 07:20:09 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Sorry...being a fool helps keep me sane.
>
>dont apologise
>
>> Might try something else, one day.
>> What do you do?
>> (it ain't a big success)
>> Ok...a laptop is a PC.
>> I ****ing knew that.
>> But, why does Telstra discriminate between laptops and PCs??
>
>Is what way do they discriminate?
>
>> Anyway, thanks, Michael!
>
>you are so most welcome
>
>> your post was sooooo bloody informative.
>
>i agree
>
>> Why the **** do you come here if you,already, know everything?
>
>to teach mere mortals like you
>
>> To show off and become famous like "you know who".
>
>
>i follow in his footsteps
>>


You are a saint!

Just remember to wipe your feet.
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If this was a perfect world, we, probably, wouldn't
be in it.

brian w edginton wrote:

> Why the **** do you come here if you,already, know everything?
> To show off and become famous like "you know who".

Because he's a pompous git who likes to think that he has something over
the rest of us. Unfortunately for him, it seems that mobile phones
amount to the sum of what he may refer to has his "life". While the rest
of us merely consider them as tools, or gadgets. In other words, if they
were to stop working tomorrow, it may be a bit of an inconvenience at
first. But the planet will continue to revolve, people will continue to
worry about the kids' schooling, health, mortgage payments and so on.

brian w edginton wrote:

> Anyway. got my "3G" phone, yesterday.

What sort of phone did you get?

> When it connects to the network, I get a "2G" symbol on my screen.
> Tricky bastards, eh?

Did you get a "NextG" phone or an older 3G one, such as a Nokia 6233, or
Motorola Razr VX?

On 15 Oct 2006 02:25:59 +0200, Emjaye <[email protected]> wrote:

>brian w edginton wrote:
>
>> Anyway. got my "3G" phone, yesterday.
>
>What sort of phone did you get?
>
>> When it connects to the network, I get a "2G" symbol on my screen.
>> Tricky bastards, eh?

Actually, that "2g" symbol was, as I have said, a VB induced typo.
Says "3G" in fact. Apologies.

>
>Did you get a "NextG" phone or an older 3G one, such as a Nokia 6233, or
>Motorola Razr VX?


New phone is a Telstra F850 (VTE...whatever that means)
The one they sold me as "3g" earlier this year was a Moto V3x.
Although it won't work on Telstra's Next Gen is a way better phone in
terms of build.....doesn't have the Toltoy feel that the ZTE does.
ZTE is pretty crappy, actually. Camera is of a much lesser quality,
too. No worries....not something I want to use much, anyway.
Only *****ed because I felt deceived......thought I was gonna get
better coverage. No intention of using the internet stuff.

No worries....the Moto will be my primary phone. On Optus. Good
coverage, here.
Telstra phone will be used on the odd occasion that I travel....and
for the one hour "free" call period, each day.

Back to my original thought.....why was Telstra selling "3G" phones
when they knew they weren't gonna work on the new system?
A case of "sales at any cost"?
If this was a perfect world, we, probably, wouldn't
be in it.

Michael wrote:

> CDMA is going, so Telstra is using those frequenceis (~850
> mhz), to launch a 3G network there. Due to the lower
> frequency, you get better coverage breadth (and less depth),
> than 3G 2100.
>
> Horses for courses. 850mhz for breadth of coverage, probably
> 2100mhz for better depth of coverage
>
> Same as we currently use GSM900/1800 vs CDMA 850

So will Telstra be adding 2100 MHz cells to its "Next G" network
to add what you're calling coverage "depth"?

John

brian said....

> New phone is a Telstra F850 (VTE...whatever that means)
> The one they sold me as "3g" earlier this year was a Moto V3x.
> Although it won't work on Telstra's Next Gen is a way better phone in
> terms of build.....doesn't have the Toltoy feel that the ZTE does.
> ZTE is pretty crappy, actually. Camera is of a much lesser quality,

I checked one out in a Telstra shop the other day. I wasn't impressed
with it. The Samsung and LG models were much better in terms of outward
appearance of quality. What they're relative performance and reliability
would be like I have no idea. I s'pose that time will tell.

> Back to my original thought.....why was Telstra selling "3G" phones
> when they knew they weren't gonna work on the new system?

Probably for those who want to use the existing 3G networks in areas
where they get coverage, I s'pose. I couldn't understand why they
bothered to sell 'em out where I live. Unless they rely on consumers
thinking that they're getting a whiz bang phone...

Used said....

> Since when does 3g = NextGen?

Presumably "Next G" = Next Generation.

I s'pose that these 3G phones look similar to Capt. Kirk's communicator,
perhaps they could have named it TOS....

Emjaye wrote:
> Used said....
>
>> Since when does 3g = NextGen?
>
> Presumably "Next G" = Next Generation.
>
> I s'pose that these 3G phones look similar to Capt. Kirk's communicator,
> perhaps they could have named it TOS....
>

What would its users have been called, though?

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:28:40 +1000, Graeme Willox <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Emjaye wrote:
>> Used said....
>>
>>> Since when does 3g = NextGen?
>>
>> Presumably "Next G" = Next Generation.
>>
>> I s'pose that these 3G phones look similar to Capt. Kirk's communicator,
>> perhaps they could have named it TOS....
>>
>
>What would its users have been called, though?

tossers, obviously ...