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  1. #46
    Michael
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    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....


    "Tsunami Australia" <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au>
    wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:30:04 +1100, Emjaye <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Paul said....
    >>
    >>> Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show "phone with
    >>> external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased) yet none of the
    >>> handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit with external antenna?

    >>
    >>Or worse - I can't find any car charger units for the Samsung models.
    >>The only accessories that the phone comes with are a "handsfree"
    >>mike/earphone, a data cable and a mains power charger.

    >
    > I get the feeling that there was very little research put into things
    > like this, it's nearly as if they've left it to the last moment then
    > done a "rush job" to get copious amounts of stock in.


    Accessories are for the dealers to sell. They are irrelevant.

    Build the phones, the accessories will come. Not Telstra's problem





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  2. #47
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....


    "Tsunami Australia" <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au>
    wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:53:29 +1100, Tsunami Australia
    > <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote:
    >
    >>On 30 Oct 2006 20:48:24 -0800, "Spokes" <[email protected]>
    >>wrote:
    >>
    >>>Be aware.
    >>>Once it's done, your old CMDA handset is blocked from reconnecting to
    >>>the network.
    >>>You can only migrate your number back to CDMA under extenuating
    >>>circumstances. Say, if there is a serious coverage issue.
    >>>Telstra are offering generous incentives to CDMA customers to migrate
    >>>now.

    >>
    >>Yet Telstra are offering a guarantee that if you are not happy with
    >>the reception/reception is not as good in the area as CDMA they will
    >>promptly put your service back to CDMA. I'm going to give them a run
    >>for their money shortly,if the units hold up to what they can
    >>alledgedly do, then I will keep them. I had one clown tell me that
    >>because they use HSDPA, the signal can go through mountains for hilly
    >>areas like where we are living. I will be using that statement if they
    >>don't work .
    >>
    >>Biggest thing I'm unimpressed with is the lack of a full car kit, full
    >>as in has a charging/holding cradle with an antenna connector,
    >>something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage map
    >>states our area (exception a few small spots) has car antenna coverage
    >>only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
    >>
    >>I've also been told that there is still a lot of reception problems in
    >>Murrurundi/Scone area as well.

    >
    > Well, catch this for a laugh, I had good 3G850 reception here until
    > Saturday when the whole area dropped out. I rang Telstra to find out
    > what was going on, their response was 1100-1600 there was scheduled
    > tower maintenance. Funny thing is, 3G hasn't worked since, so I wonder
    > what their maintenance was.
    >
    > So after Saturday and Monday having a go at them (especially on
    > Monday) I still haven't got any answers as to what went wrong. So were
    > stuck with 2G coverage (GSM) which is not even worth the ground the
    > tower stands on around here, no Foxtel that I'm being made to pay $12
    > for etc etc. I'm not a happy camper.
    >
    > I would be interested in hearing some other similar stories, as it
    > sounds like they released the phones/network too far ahead of
    > schedule.


    You're a dick. ONE outage and you are already flapping your wings and taking
    off.

    Dickhead.

    Given that you can only use 200 minutes of Foxtel a month, and based on
    43200 minutes in a month, I've determined you should be getting a 6c rebate.

    Yes, 6c.

    Get over it.





  3. #48
    budgie
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    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....

    On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:27:01 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"budgie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> On 5 Nov 2006 22:58:57 -0800, "James Pole" <[email protected]> wrote:


    >>>While CDMA does have an small edge, it's really
    >>>not that much of a difference.

    >
    >Bull****


    I'm glad that was HIS quote you were narky about, not mine. But as PD pointed
    out, he was talking kiwi. Anything's possible in that country.



  4. #49
    James Pole
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....

    budgie wrote:
    > On 5 Nov 2006 22:58:57 -0800, "James Pole" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Telecom (CDMA) says they cover 97% of the country, Vodafone (GSM)
    > >covers the same amount.

    >
    > You're obviously not talking about Australia then.


    Since when did Telecom have a mobile network in Australia? :-P

    Yes I was referring to NZ, sorry I didn't make that clear.

    > No GSM network in Australia covers 97% of the *country*. Telstra used to claim
    > 97% of the population, which could easily leave 75% of the country without
    > cover. And of the three GSM network, it is generally agreed that Voda come a
    > bad third behind Telstra and Optus.


    Correct, I should have said 97% of the *population* of NZ -- not the
    country. Land mass coverage in NZ is pretty bad too but better than
    Australia.

    Regards,
    James




  5. #50
    James Pole
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....

    Michael wrote:
    > You're almost exactly correct. CDMA has 98% population coverage with 25%
    > landmass coverage


    Not in New Zealand. I was debating the point that CDMA has better
    international roaming in NZ -- and making the point that CDMA roaming
    in NZ on Telecom's network is not much better than GSM roaming on
    Vodafone's GSM network.

    > >>While CDMA does have an small edge, it's really
    > >>not that much of a difference.

    >
    > Bull****


    If you say so. It all depends on where you go, some places Voda has
    superior coverage while other places Telecom has better coverage. I
    know of a few CDMA holes in Auckland. Yes, our largest city has some
    CDMA holes whereas GSM is almost solid.

    If both Telstra in Australia and Telecom here in NZ moved to a all-UMTS
    network we would all be better off as we would have good national
    coverage (through national roaming agreements on other UMTS networks --
    instead of one company going CDMA and the other going GSM/UMTS as is
    the case in NZ) as well as global roaming coverage in both countries
    and the 100+ foreign countries that has GSM/UMTS coverage.

    This is already a reality in Europe, why not Australia/NZ too?

    Regards,
    James




  6. #51
    Emjaye
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....

    Michael said....

    >> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one. I was gonna put

    >
    > That was a stupid thing to do.


    You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through when
    expected to. No doubt this is another example.

    A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of internet
    calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as much"...

    Really, Michael, if you don't have anything useful to say, then do us a
    favor and in your sig, headers or whatever, insert the text "troll" so
    we can filter out your crap.





  7. #52
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....

    Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Tsunami Australia"
    > <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]...
    >> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:26:39 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> "Tsunami Australia"
    >>> <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote in
    >>> message news:[email protected]...
    >>>> On 2 Nov 2006 09:13:38 +0800, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:53:29 +1100 Tsunami Australia may have
    >>>>> written:
    >>>>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage map
    >>>>>> states our area (exception a few small spots) has car antenna
    >>>>>> coverage only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show "phone
    >>>>> with external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased) yet none
    >>>>> of the handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit with
    >>>>> external antenna? PD
    >>>>
    >>>> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with, both
    >>>> call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully wired kit
    >>>> with antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision today, they
    >>>> said there has been one released for the LG TU500 and would be in
    >>>> stock sometime next week.
    >>>>
    >>>> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and
    >>>> should expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how full
    >>>> it is as to if I keep the phone or not. So far the reception
    >>>> around here has been equal to CDMA, but by no means better as
    >>>> Telstra advertise.
    >>>
    >>> Should have waited till you see that car kit
    >>>
    >>> FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is
    >>> thinking of
    >>> getting one, do it sooner rather than later
    >>>

    >>
    >> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
    >> contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.

    >
    > Nope. Unless you bought it over the phone, in certain states, there
    > is NO cooling off period.


    > The car kit is not written into your contract anywhere, anyway. So its irrelevant.


    No it isnt when the salesape claimed it would be available.

    If they cant supply it as stated, he gets a full refund if he wants one.





  8. #53
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....


    "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Michael said....
    >
    >>> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one. I was gonna put

    >>
    >> That was a stupid thing to do.

    >
    > You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through when
    > expected to. No doubt this is another example.


    What did you want me to follow it up with?

    He's made the move now, cant turn back time

    > A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of internet
    > calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as much"...


    The most sensible answer of all.

    You remind me of ****wits on a $20-$30 plan who have a variable spend.

    So they go on a $49 cap. Yet if they did their sums, they probably only
    average $40 a month, total






  9. #54
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....


    "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> "Tsunami Australia"
    >> <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote in
    >> message news:[email protected]...
    >>> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:26:39 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> "Tsunami Australia"
    >>>> <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote in
    >>>> message news:[email protected]...
    >>>>> On 2 Nov 2006 09:13:38 +0800, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:53:29 +1100 Tsunami Australia may have
    >>>>>> written:
    >>>>>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage map
    >>>>>>> states our area (exception a few small spots) has car antenna
    >>>>>>> coverage only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show "phone
    >>>>>> with external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased) yet none
    >>>>>> of the handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit with
    >>>>>> external antenna? PD
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with, both
    >>>>> call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully wired kit
    >>>>> with antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision today, they
    >>>>> said there has been one released for the LG TU500 and would be in
    >>>>> stock sometime next week.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and
    >>>>> should expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how full
    >>>>> it is as to if I keep the phone or not. So far the reception
    >>>>> around here has been equal to CDMA, but by no means better as
    >>>>> Telstra advertise.
    >>>>
    >>>> Should have waited till you see that car kit
    >>>>
    >>>> FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is
    >>>> thinking of
    >>>> getting one, do it sooner rather than later
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
    >>> contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.

    >>
    >> Nope. Unless you bought it over the phone, in certain states, there
    >> is NO cooling off period.

    >
    >> The car kit is not written into your contract anywhere, anyway. So its
    >> irrelevant.

    >
    > No it isnt when the salesape claimed it would be available.
    >
    > If they cant supply it as stated, he gets a full refund if he wants one.


    Nope
    >
    >






  10. #55
    Spokes
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....


    Tsunami Australia wrote:
    > On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:26:39 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"Tsunami Australia" <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au>
    > >wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > >> On 2 Nov 2006 09:13:38 +0800, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:53:29 +1100 Tsunami Australia may have written:
    > >>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage map
    > >>>> states our area (exception a few small spots) has car antenna coverage
    > >>>> only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
    > >>>
    > >>>Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show "phone with
    > >>>external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased) yet none of the
    > >>>handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit with external antenna?
    > >>>
    > >>>PD
    > >>
    > >> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with, both
    > >> call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully wired kit with
    > >> antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision today, they said
    > >> there has been one released for the LG TU500 and would be in stock
    > >> sometime next week.
    > >>
    > >> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and should
    > >> expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how full it is as
    > >> to if I keep the phone or not. So far the reception around here has
    > >> been equal to CDMA, but by no means better as Telstra advertise.

    > >
    > >Should have waited till you see that car kit
    > >
    > >FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is thinking of
    > >getting one, do it sooner rather than later
    > >

    >
    > Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
    > contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.


    If you buy the handset in the shop, there is no cooling off period,
    unless the store itself has such a policy.
    If you buy the handset over the phone, a cooling off period applies by
    law, which is either 5 or 10 days depending which state you live in.

    >
    > I've heard most places around here are having major problems getting
    > stock of handsets.





  11. #56
    Intel Inside
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....


    "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Michael said....
    >>
    >>>> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one. I was gonna put
    >>>
    >>> That was a stupid thing to do.

    >>
    >> You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through when
    >> expected to. No doubt this is another example.

    >
    > What did you want me to follow it up with?
    >
    > He's made the move now, cant turn back time
    >
    >> A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of internet
    >> calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as much"...

    >
    > The most sensible answer of all.
    >
    > You remind me of ****wits on a $20-$30 plan who have a variable spend.
    >
    > So they go on a $49 cap. Yet if they did their sums, they probably only
    > average $40 a month, total
    >
    >


    Abusive defence tactic employed once again.
    Irrelevant analogy tactic employed once again.
    Like the man said ... you're a "troll".


    >






  12. #57
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....

    Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    > Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    >> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> Tsunami Australia <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote
    >>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>>> Tsunami Australia <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote
    >>>>>> Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>>>>> Tsunami Australia wrote


    >>>>>>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage
    >>>>>>>> map states our area (exception a few small spots) has car
    >>>>>>>> antenna coverage only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.


    >>>>>>> Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show
    >>>>>>> "phone with external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased)
    >>>>>>> yet none of the handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit
    >>>>>>> with external antenna? PD


    >>>>>> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with,
    >>>>>> both call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully
    >>>>>> wired kit with antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision
    >>>>>> today, they said there has been one released for the LG TU500
    >>>>>> and would be in stock sometime next week.


    >>>>>> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and
    >>>>>> should expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how
    >>>>>> full it is as to if I keep the phone or not. So far the reception
    >>>>>> around here has been equal to CDMA, but by no means better as
    >>>>>> Telstra advertise.


    >>>>> Should have waited till you see that car kit


    >>>>> FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is thinking of getting one, do
    >>>>> it sooner rather than later


    >>>> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the contract gets cancelled within
    >>>> the cooling off period.


    >>> Nope. Unless you bought it over the phone, in certain states, there is NO cooling off period.


    >>> The car kit is not written into your contract anywhere, anyway. So its irrelevant.


    >> No it isnt when the salesape claimed it would be available.


    >> If they cant supply it as stated, he gets a full refund if he wants one.


    > Nope


    Yep. You've never ever had a ****ing clue
    about even the most basic consumer law.





  13. #58
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....

    Intel Inside <[email protected]> wrote
    > Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    >> Emjaye <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> Michael wrote


    >>>>> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one.


    >>>> That was a stupid thing to do.


    >>> You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through when expected to. No doubt this
    >>> is another example.


    >> What did you want me to follow it up with?


    >> He's made the move now, cant turn back time


    >>> A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of
    >>> internet calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as much"...


    >> The most sensible answer of all.


    >> You remind me of ****wits on a $20-$30 plan who have a variable spend.


    >> So they go on a $49 cap. Yet if they did their sums, they probably only average $40 a month,
    >> total


    > Abusive defence tactic employed once again.
    > Irrelevant analogy tactic employed once again.
    > Like the man said ... you're a "troll".


    You wouldnt know what a troll was if it bit you on you lard arse, child.





  14. #59
    Emjaye
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....

    Michael said....

    >>>> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one. I was gonna put
    >>>
    >>> That was a stupid thing to do.

    >>
    >> You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through when
    >> expected to. No doubt this is another example.

    >
    > What did you want me to follow it up with?


    Because, cockhead, you made the statement that it was "stupid" for me to
    get a new phone number. The "followup" is to explain what your reasoning
    for this less than profound statement.

    >> A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of internet
    >> calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as much"...

    >
    > The most sensible answer of all.


    No, it's stating the ****ing obvious, with nothing useful to add to the
    discussion. Like all of your "contributions" to this newsgroup.

    > You remind me of ****wits on a $20-$30 plan who have a variable spend.


    That's your problem.





  15. #60
    Intel Inside
    Guest

    Re: Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....


    "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Intel Inside <[email protected]> wrote
    >> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> Emjaye <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>> Michael wrote

    >
    >>>>>> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one.

    >
    >>>>> That was a stupid thing to do.

    >
    >>>> You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through when
    >>>> expected to. No doubt this is another example.

    >
    >>> What did you want me to follow it up with?

    >
    >>> He's made the move now, cant turn back time

    >
    >>>> A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of
    >>>> internet calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as much"...

    >
    >>> The most sensible answer of all.

    >
    >>> You remind me of ****wits on a $20-$30 plan who have a variable spend.

    >
    >>> So they go on a $49 cap. Yet if they did their sums, they probably only
    >>> average $40 a month, total

    >
    >> Abusive defence tactic employed once again.
    >> Irrelevant analogy tactic employed once again.
    >> Like the man said ... you're a "troll".

    >
    > You wouldnt know what a troll was if it bit you on you lard arse, child.
    >


    It's the Michael and Rod gay tag team tactic again.





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