Before you migrate your Telstra CDMA over to Next G.....

Intel Inside <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Intel Inside <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> Emjaye <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Michael wrote
>>
>>>>>>> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one.
>>
>>>>>> That was a stupid thing to do.
>>
>>>>> You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through
>>>>> when expected to. No doubt this is another example.
>>
>>>> What did you want me to follow it up with?
>>
>>>> He's made the move now, cant turn back time
>>
>>>>> A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of
>>>>> internet calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as much"...
>>
>>>> The most sensible answer of all.
>>
>>>> You remind me of ****wits on a $20-$30 plan who have a variable
>>>> spend.
>>
>>>> So they go on a $49 cap. Yet if they did their sums, they probably
>>>> only average $40 a month, total
>>
>>> Abusive defence tactic employed once again.
>>> Irrelevant analogy tactic employed once again.
>>> Like the man said ... you're a "troll".
>>
>> You wouldnt know what a troll was if it bit you on you lard arse,
>> child.
>
> It's the Michael and Rod gay tag team tactic again.

Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, child.

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"Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Michael said....
>
>>>>> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one. I was gonna put
>>>>
>>>> That was a stupid thing to do.
>>>
>>> You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through when
>>> expected to. No doubt this is another example.
>>
>> What did you want me to follow it up with?
>
> Because, cockhead, you made the statement that it was "stupid" for me to
> get a new phone number. The "followup" is to explain what your reasoning
> for this less than profound statement.
>
>>> A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of internet
>>> calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as much"...
>>
>> The most sensible answer of all.
>
> No, it's stating the ****ing obvious, with nothing useful to add to the
> discussion. Like all of your "contributions" to this newsgroup.
>
>> You remind me of ****wits on a $20-$30 plan who have a variable spend.
>
> That's your problem.
>
>

You're right Emjaye,
Michael and Rod don't contribute anything worthy here anymore.

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:30:05 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Tsunami Australia" <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au>
>wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:53:29 +1100, Tsunami Australia
>> <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote:
>>
>>>On 30 Oct 2006 20:48:24 -0800, "Spokes" <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Be aware.
>>>>Once it's done, your old CMDA handset is blocked from reconnecting to
>>>>the network.
>>>>You can only migrate your number back to CDMA under extenuating
>>>>circumstances. Say, if there is a serious coverage issue.
>>>>Telstra are offering generous incentives to CDMA customers to migrate
>>>>now.
>>>
>>>Yet Telstra are offering a guarantee that if you are not happy with
>>>the reception/reception is not as good in the area as CDMA they will
>>>promptly put your service back to CDMA. I'm going to give them a run
>>>for their money shortly,if the units hold up to what they can
>>>alledgedly do, then I will keep them. I had one clown tell me that
>>>because they use HSDPA, the signal can go through mountains for hilly
>>>areas like where we are living. I will be using that statement if they
>>>don't work .
>>>
>>>Biggest thing I'm unimpressed with is the lack of a full car kit, full
>>>as in has a charging/holding cradle with an antenna connector,
>>>something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage map
>>>states our area (exception a few small spots) has car antenna coverage
>>>only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
>>>
>>>I've also been told that there is still a lot of reception problems in
>>>Murrurundi/Scone area as well.
>>
>> Well, catch this for a laugh, I had good 3G850 reception here until
>> Saturday when the whole area dropped out. I rang Telstra to find out
>> what was going on, their response was 1100-1600 there was scheduled
>> tower maintenance. Funny thing is, 3G hasn't worked since, so I wonder
>> what their maintenance was.
>>
>> So after Saturday and Monday having a go at them (especially on
>> Monday) I still haven't got any answers as to what went wrong. So were
>> stuck with 2G coverage (GSM) which is not even worth the ground the
>> tower stands on around here, no Foxtel that I'm being made to pay $12
>> for etc etc. I'm not a happy camper.
>>
>> I would be interested in hearing some other similar stories, as it
>> sounds like they released the phones/network too far ahead of
>> schedule.
>
>You're a dick. ONE outage and you are already flapping your wings and taking
>off.
>
>Dickhead.
>
>Given that you can only use 200 minutes of Foxtel a month, and based on
>43200 minutes in a month, I've determined you should be getting a 6c rebate.
>
>Yes, 6c.
>
>Get over it.
>

You really are a moron most of the time Michael! Outage has now been
for near enough to a week, Telstra are too busy stuffing around
rolling out more towers to fix their problems.

As for leaving after one outage, of course I'm gunna f$cking leave
after 1 week of no service you dimwhit, I have my phone account on a
business plan for a reason, I use it for my business and most other
business users tend to get a little pissed off when they can't use
their phones too.

As for Foxtel, that was an example. But just the same, I will not be
paying that part of the bill, I refuse to pay for something that
doesn't work, or should we all perhaps go to One.Tel, oh that's right,
it doesn't work anymore. The biggest thing I'm pissed off about is of
course SFA reception as the phone has had to revert back to GSM.
Therefor out of necessity, sometime today I shall be reverting back to
CDMA so I've got at least something that works.

So your the dick Michael. Your so ****ing arrogant you can't see past
your own nose. I now see why the others claim you work for Telstra,
not even their own staff are that loyal to them. Oh but talking about
staff, if you ever want help with NextG, ring a drunk, you'll then at
least get someone who will listen.

On 7 Nov 2006 04:44:21 -0800, "Spokes" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>Tsunami Australia wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:26:39 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Tsunami Australia" <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au>
>> >wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> >> On 2 Nov 2006 09:13:38 +0800, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:53:29 +1100 Tsunami Australia may have written:
>> >>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage map
>> >>>> states our area (exception a few small spots) has car antenna coverage
>> >>>> only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
>> >>>
>> >>>Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show "phone with
>> >>>external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased) yet none of the
>> >>>handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit with external antenna?
>> >>>
>> >>>PD
>> >>
>> >> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with, both
>> >> call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully wired kit with
>> >> antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision today, they said
>> >> there has been one released for the LG TU500 and would be in stock
>> >> sometime next week.
>> >>
>> >> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and should
>> >> expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how full it is as
>> >> to if I keep the phone or not. So far the reception around here has
>> >> been equal to CDMA, but by no means better as Telstra advertise.
>> >
>> >Should have waited till you see that car kit
>> >
>> >FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is thinking of
>> >getting one, do it sooner rather than later
>> >
>>
>> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
>> contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.
>
>If you buy the handset in the shop, there is no cooling off period,
>unless the store itself has such a policy.
>If you buy the handset over the phone, a cooling off period applies by
>law, which is either 5 or 10 days depending which state you live in.
>
>>
>> I've heard most places around here are having major problems getting
>> stock of handsets.

There IS a 30day cooling period on Telstra contracts.

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:25:50 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Tsunami Australia" <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au>
>wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:26:39 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Tsunami Australia" <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au>
>>>wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>>> On 2 Nov 2006 09:13:38 +0800, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:53:29 +1100 Tsunami Australia may have written:
>>>>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage map
>>>>>> states our area (exception a few small spots) has car antenna coverage
>>>>>> only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show "phone with
>>>>>external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased) yet none of the
>>>>>handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit with external antenna?
>>>>>
>>>>>PD
>>>>
>>>> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with, both
>>>> call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully wired kit with
>>>> antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision today, they said
>>>> there has been one released for the LG TU500 and would be in stock
>>>> sometime next week.
>>>>
>>>> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and should
>>>> expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how full it is as
>>>> to if I keep the phone or not. So far the reception around here has
>>>> been equal to CDMA, but by no means better as Telstra advertise.
>>>
>>>Should have waited till you see that car kit
>>>
>>>FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is thinking
>>>of
>>>getting one, do it sooner rather than later
>>>
>>
>> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
>> contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.
>
>Nope. Unless you bought it over the phone, in certain states, there is NO
>cooling off period.
>
>The car kit is not written into your contract anywhere, anyway. So its
>irrelevant.
>
>

Ah your more ****ed in the head than I thought. The carkit IS actually
worded into the contact, as was the carkit in my old cdma. So it is
there in BLACK & WHITE.

Intel Inside <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Michael said....
>>
>>>>>> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one. I was
>>>>>> gonna put
>>>>>
>>>>> That was a stupid thing to do.
>>>>
>>>> You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through
>>>> when expected to. No doubt this is another example.
>>>
>>> What did you want me to follow it up with?
>>
>> Because, cockhead, you made the statement that it was "stupid" for
>> me to get a new phone number. The "followup" is to explain what your
>> reasoning for this less than profound statement.
>>
>>>> A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of
>>>> internet calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as much"...
>>>
>>> The most sensible answer of all.
>>
>> No, it's stating the ****ing obvious, with nothing useful to add to
>> the discussion. Like all of your "contributions" to this newsgroup.
>>
>>> You remind me of ****wits on a $20-$30 plan who have a variable
>>> spend.
>>
>> That's your problem.
>>
>>
>
> You're right Emjaye,
> Michael and Rod don't contribute anything worthy here anymore.

You've never ever manage to contribute a damned thing, ever.

Tsunami Australia wrote:
> On 7 Nov 2006 04:44:21 -0800, "Spokes" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Tsunami Australia wrote:
> >> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:26:39 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Tsunami Australia" <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au>
> >> >wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >> >> On 2 Nov 2006 09:13:38 +0800, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:53:29 +1100 Tsunami Australia may have written:
> >> >>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage map
> >> >>>> states our area (exception a few small spots) has car antenna coverage
> >> >>>> only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show "phone with
> >> >>>external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased) yet none of the
> >> >>>handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit with external antenna?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>PD
> >> >>
> >> >> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with, both
> >> >> call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully wired kit with
> >> >> antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision today, they said
> >> >> there has been one released for the LG TU500 and would be in stock
> >> >> sometime next week.
> >> >>
> >> >> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and should
> >> >> expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how full it is as
> >> >> to if I keep the phone or not. So far the reception around here has
> >> >> been equal to CDMA, but by no means better as Telstra advertise.
> >> >
> >> >Should have waited till you see that car kit
> >> >
> >> >FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is thinking of
> >> >getting one, do it sooner rather than later
> >> >
> >>
> >> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
> >> contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.
> >
> >If you buy the handset in the shop, there is no cooling off period,
> >unless the store itself has such a policy.
> >If you buy the handset over the phone, a cooling off period applies by
> >law, which is either 5 or 10 days depending which state you live in.
> >
> >>
> >> I've heard most places around here are having major problems getting
> >> stock of handsets.
>
> There IS a 30day cooling period on Telstra contracts.

Good for you if have that for mobiles. I've never seen a telstra
contract with such cooling off periods.

Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
> Tsunami Australia wrote
>> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Tsunami Australia wrote
>>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Tsunami Australia <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote
>>>>>> Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>> Tsunami Australia wrote

>>>>>>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage
>>>>>>>> map states our area (exception a few small spots) has car
>>>>>>>> antenna coverage only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.

>>>>>>> Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show
>>>>>>> "phone with external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased)
>>>>>>> yet none of the handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit
>>>>>>> with external antenna?

>>>>>> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with,
>>>>>> both call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully
>>>>>> wired kit with antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision
>>>>>> today, they said there has been one released for the LG TU500
>>>>>> and would be in stock sometime next week.

>>>>>> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and
>>>>>> should expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how
>>>>>> full it is as to if I keep the phone or not. So far the
>>>>>> reception around here has been equal to CDMA, but by no means
>>>>>> better as Telstra advertise.

>>>>> Should have waited till you see that car kit

>>>>> FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is
>>>>> thinking of getting one, do it sooner rather than later

>>>> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
>>>> contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.

>>> If you buy the handset in the shop, there is no cooling off period,
>>> unless the store itself has such a policy.

>>> If you buy the handset over the phone, a cooling off period applies by
>>> law, which is either 5 or 10 days depending which state you live in.

>>>> I've heard most places around here are having major problems
>>>> getting stock of handsets.

>> There IS a 30day cooling period on Telstra contracts.

> Good for you if have that for mobiles. I've never
> seen a telstra contract with such cooling off periods.

Its unique to NextG, since plenty will have real doubts about how viable it is.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Intel Inside <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Michael said....
>>>
>>>>>>> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one. I was
>>>>>>> gonna put
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was a stupid thing to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through
>>>>> when expected to. No doubt this is another example.
>>>>
>>>> What did you want me to follow it up with?
>>>
>>> Because, cockhead, you made the statement that it was "stupid" for
>>> me to get a new phone number. The "followup" is to explain what your
>>> reasoning for this less than profound statement.
>>>
>>>>> A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of
>>>>> internet calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as much"...
>>>>
>>>> The most sensible answer of all.
>>>
>>> No, it's stating the ****ing obvious, with nothing useful to add to
>>> the discussion. Like all of your "contributions" to this newsgroup.
>>>
>>>> You remind me of ****wits on a $20-$30 plan who have a variable
>>>> spend.
>>>
>>> That's your problem.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You're right Emjaye,
>> Michael and Rod don't contribute anything worthy here anymore.
>
> You've never ever manage to contribute a damned thing, ever.
>

Correction: you do add something -- vitriolic and derogatory comments which
are worth NOTHING, so I was right -- you add NOTHING

Intel Inside <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Intel Inside <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Michael said....
>>>>
>>>>>>>> got a new number, rather than "migrating" my old one. I was
>>>>>>>> gonna put
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That was a stupid thing to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You come up with all these one-liners, but never follow through
>>>>>> when expected to. No doubt this is another example.
>>>>>
>>>>> What did you want me to follow it up with?
>>>>
>>>> Because, cockhead, you made the statement that it was "stupid" for
>>>> me to get a new phone number. The "followup" is to explain what
>>>> your reasoning for this less than profound statement.
>>>>
>>>>>> A previous one was a silly comment regarding "smart usage" of
>>>>>> internet calls on NextG and your answer; "don't use it as
>>>>>> much"...
>>>>>
>>>>> The most sensible answer of all.
>>>>
>>>> No, it's stating the ****ing obvious, with nothing useful to add to
>>>> the discussion. Like all of your "contributions" to this newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>> You remind me of ****wits on a $20-$30 plan who have a variable
>>>>> spend.
>>>>
>>>> That's your problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're right Emjaye,
>>> Michael and Rod don't contribute anything worthy here anymore.
>>
>> You've never ever manage to contribute a damned thing, ever.
>>
>
> Correction: you do add something -- vitriolic and derogatory comments
> which are worth NOTHING, so I was right -- you add NOTHING

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag, and
never ever has managed to contribute a damned thing, ever.

Rod Speed wrote:
> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
> > Tsunami Australia wrote
> >> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
> >>> Tsunami Australia wrote
> >>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
> >>>>> Tsunami Australia <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote
> >>>>>> Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote
> >>>>>>> Tsunami Australia wrote
>
> >>>>>>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage
> >>>>>>>> map states our area (exception a few small spots) has car
> >>>>>>>> antenna coverage only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
>
> >>>>>>> Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show
> >>>>>>> "phone with external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased)
> >>>>>>> yet none of the handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit
> >>>>>>> with external antenna?
>
> >>>>>> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with,
> >>>>>> both call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully
> >>>>>> wired kit with antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision
> >>>>>> today, they said there has been one released for the LG TU500
> >>>>>> and would be in stock sometime next week.
>
> >>>>>> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and
> >>>>>> should expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how
> >>>>>> full it is as to if I keep the phone or not. So far the
> >>>>>> reception around here has been equal to CDMA, but by no means
> >>>>>> better as Telstra advertise.
>
> >>>>> Should have waited till you see that car kit
>
> >>>>> FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is
> >>>>> thinking of getting one, do it sooner rather than later
>
> >>>> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
> >>>> contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.
>
> >>> If you buy the handset in the shop, there is no cooling off period,
> >>> unless the store itself has such a policy.
>
> >>> If you buy the handset over the phone, a cooling off period applies by
> >>> law, which is either 5 or 10 days depending which state you live in.
>
> >>>> I've heard most places around here are having major problems
> >>>> getting stock of handsets.
>
> >> There IS a 30day cooling period on Telstra contracts.
>
> > Good for you if have that for mobiles. I've never
> > seen a telstra contract with such cooling off periods.
>
> Its unique to NextG, since plenty will have real doubts about how viable it is.

If it's unique, it must be in writing somewhere. Where is it Rod? I
like to see what you're talking about with this 30 day cooling off
period.

Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Tsunami Australia wrote
>>>> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Tsunami Australia wrote
>>>>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>> Tsunami Australia
>>>>>>> <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote
>>>>>>>> Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Tsunami Australia wrote

>>>>>>>>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage
>>>>>>>>>> map states our area (exception a few small spots) has car
>>>>>>>>>> antenna coverage only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.

>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show
>>>>>>>>> "phone with external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased)
>>>>>>>>> yet none of the handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit
>>>>>>>>> with external antenna?

>>>>>>>> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with,
>>>>>>>> both call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully
>>>>>>>> wired kit with antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision
>>>>>>>> today, they said there has been one released for the LG TU500
>>>>>>>> and would be in stock sometime next week.

>>>>>>>> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and
>>>>>>>> should expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how
>>>>>>>> full it is as to if I keep the phone or not. So far the
>>>>>>>> reception around here has been equal to CDMA, but by no means
>>>>>>>> better as Telstra advertise.

>>>>>>> Should have waited till you see that car kit

>>>>>>> FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is
>>>>>>> thinking of getting one, do it sooner rather than later

>>>>>> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
>>>>>> contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.

>>>>> If you buy the handset in the shop, there is no cooling off
>>>>> period, unless the store itself has such a policy.

>>>>> If you buy the handset over the phone, a cooling off period
>>>>> applies by law, which is either 5 or 10 days depending which
>>>>> state you live in.

>>>>>> I've heard most places around here are having major problems
>>>>>> getting stock of handsets.

>>>> There IS a 30day cooling period on Telstra contracts.

>>> Good for you if have that for mobiles. I've never
>>> seen a telstra contract with such cooling off periods.

>> Its unique to NextG, since plenty will have real doubts about how viable it is.

> If it's unique, it must be in writing somewhere.

Not necessarily.

> Where is it Rod?

Go and look for yourself, the telstra web site is such an unspeakable
mess that I wont be bothering with something without a unique keyword.

> I like to see what you're talking about with this 30 day cooling off period.

You could get real radical and ask telstra.

Rod Speed wrote:
> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
> > Rod Speed wrote
> >> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
> >>> Tsunami Australia wrote
> >>>> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
> >>>>> Tsunami Australia wrote
> >>>>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
> >>>>>>> Tsunami Australia
> >>>>>>> <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote
> >>>>>>>> Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote
> >>>>>>>>> Tsunami Australia wrote
>
> >>>>>>>>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage
> >>>>>>>>>> map states our area (exception a few small spots) has car
> >>>>>>>>>> antenna coverage only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
>
> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show
> >>>>>>>>> "phone with external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased)
> >>>>>>>>> yet none of the handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit
> >>>>>>>>> with external antenna?
>
> >>>>>>>> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with,
> >>>>>>>> both call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully
> >>>>>>>> wired kit with antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision
> >>>>>>>> today, they said there has been one released for the LG TU500
> >>>>>>>> and would be in stock sometime next week.
>
> >>>>>>>> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and
> >>>>>>>> should expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how
> >>>>>>>> full it is as to if I keep the phone or not. So far the
> >>>>>>>> reception around here has been equal to CDMA, but by no means
> >>>>>>>> better as Telstra advertise.
>
> >>>>>>> Should have waited till you see that car kit
>
> >>>>>>> FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is
> >>>>>>> thinking of getting one, do it sooner rather than later
>
> >>>>>> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
> >>>>>> contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.
>
> >>>>> If you buy the handset in the shop, there is no cooling off
> >>>>> period, unless the store itself has such a policy.
>
> >>>>> If you buy the handset over the phone, a cooling off period
> >>>>> applies by law, which is either 5 or 10 days depending which
> >>>>> state you live in.
>
> >>>>>> I've heard most places around here are having major problems
> >>>>>> getting stock of handsets.
>
> >>>> There IS a 30day cooling period on Telstra contracts.
>
> >>> Good for you if have that for mobiles. I've never
> >>> seen a telstra contract with such cooling off periods.
>
> >> Its unique to NextG, since plenty will have real doubts about how viable it is.
>
> > If it's unique, it must be in writing somewhere.
>
> Not necessarily.
>
> > Where is it Rod?
>
> Go and look for yourself, the telstra web site is such an unspeakable
> mess that I wont be bothering with something without a unique keyword.

I tried that using keywords. Had a good look in all the Telstra T&Cs.
can't see it.

where is it? Are you imagining that there is a 30 day cooling off
period for 3G?

>
> > I like to see what you're talking about with this 30 day cooling off period.
>
> You could get real radical and ask telstra.

I work for telstra....it looks like you're talking crap about a 30 day
cooling off period.

"Spokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
>> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
>> >>> Tsunami Australia wrote
>> >>>> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
>> >>>>> Tsunami Australia wrote
>> >>>>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>> >>>>>>> Tsunami Australia
>> >>>>>>> <tsunami-underscore-australia-at-yahoo-dot-com-dot-au> wrote
>> >>>>>>>> Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote
>> >>>>>>>>> Tsunami Australia wrote
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> something like a Nokia CK7W + crade + AXF15s. Their coverage
>> >>>>>>>>>> map states our area (exception a few small spots) has car
>> >>>>>>>>>> antenna coverage only, yet they won't offer the car antenna.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, I'd noticed that contradiction too. The maps show
>> >>>>>>>>> "phone with external car antenna coverage only" (paraphrased)
>> >>>>>>>>> yet none of the handsets on offer can be fitted with a car kit
>> >>>>>>>>> with external antenna?
>>
>> >>>>>>>> It gets more interesting. Every Telstra rep I've spoken with,
>> >>>>>>>> both call center and Telstra shop has said there is no fully
>> >>>>>>>> wired kit with antenna connector. Yet when I was in Retravision
>> >>>>>>>> today, they said there has been one released for the LG TU500
>> >>>>>>>> and would be in stock sometime next week.
>>
>> >>>>>>>> So I took the plunge today, migrated (for a test at least) and
>> >>>>>>>> should expect my "full" car kit next week. Shall see just how
>> >>>>>>>> full it is as to if I keep the phone or not. So far the
>> >>>>>>>> reception around here has been equal to CDMA, but by no means
>> >>>>>>>> better as Telstra advertise.
>>
>> >>>>>>> Should have waited till you see that car kit
>>
>> >>>>>>> FYI there is a bit of a shortage on NextG handsets. If anyone is
>> >>>>>>> thinking of getting one, do it sooner rather than later
>>
>> >>>>>> Well if the carkit is not complete or doesn't arrive, then the
>> >>>>>> contract gets cancelled within the cooling off period.
>>
>> >>>>> If you buy the handset in the shop, there is no cooling off
>> >>>>> period, unless the store itself has such a policy.
>>
>> >>>>> If you buy the handset over the phone, a cooling off period
>> >>>>> applies by law, which is either 5 or 10 days depending which
>> >>>>> state you live in.
>>
>> >>>>>> I've heard most places around here are having major problems
>> >>>>>> getting stock of handsets.
>>
>> >>>> There IS a 30day cooling period on Telstra contracts.
>>
>> >>> Good for you if have that for mobiles. I've never
>> >>> seen a telstra contract with such cooling off periods.
>>
>> >> Its unique to NextG, since plenty will have real doubts about how
>> >> viable it is.
>>
>> > If it's unique, it must be in writing somewhere.
>>
>> Not necessarily.
>>
>> > Where is it Rod?
>>
>> Go and look for yourself, the telstra web site is such an unspeakable
>> mess that I wont be bothering with something without a unique keyword.
>
> I tried that using keywords. Had a good look in all the Telstra T&Cs.
> can't see it.
>
> where is it? Are you imagining that there is a 30 day cooling off
> period for 3G?
>
>>
>> > I like to see what you're talking about with this 30 day cooling off
>> > period.
>>
>> You could get real radical and ask telstra.
>
> I work for telstra....it looks like you're talking crap about a 30 day
> cooling off period.
>

"it looks like you're talking crap" -- You know Rod do you?.

budgie said....

> No GSM network in Australia covers 97% of the *country*. Telstra used
> to claim 97% of the population, which could easily leave 75% of the

It also used to run those "We do Chucky, we do" adverts, which were so
misleading I'm surprised that Fels didn't dump on Telstra. It used to
make this claim that its own network had better coverage than any US
network. While it's technically true, what it omitted was that when
combined, overall phone coverage is better when there are roaming
arrangements in place.

So, what it was trying to say was basically bull****.

>>3G coverage is a joke, I agree, but Telecom's 3G CDMA isn't much to
>>write home either. Only covers the major cities too -- in the rural
>>areas you are stuck with 2G, just like Vodafone GSM.

Eh?