Using NextG Mobile Phone as a Modem and relevant plans

He should try this

http://my.bigpond.com/internetplans/...ireless/about/


"Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A mate at work is planning a trip around Oz for later on this year,
> maybe early next year. He was asking what he would need to access the
> 'net using a mobile phone and a laptop.
>
> I suggested something like my Samsung A501 running on the NextG network.
> However, I am not familiar with what plans that would allow this. I've
> had a bit of a look on the Telstra website but some of the plans, terms
> etc. don't, to me at least, look all that easy to work out or explain.
>
> Hopefully someone who's been doing this could help out here. What
> product would be best suited for him? He only needs to check emails,
> maybe do some browsing, read the paper, get local forecasts and so on.
>
> I briefly showed him what the A501 can do by itself. But I explained to
> him that as a "pay as you go" service it's damned expensive. Just
> accidentally pressing the "Bigpond" button or icon costs a few cents in
> downloaded data, even if nothing actually appears on the screen during
> the initial login stage.
>
>

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Emjaye wrote:

> Thanks for that. However, none of that info tells me if you can use a
> NextG mobile phone as a "modem" to connect to this network. All it talks
> about are those mobile cards and USB mobile cards.

I can use my Samsung Z140 (3G but at 2100MHz) as a modem via the
supplied data cable - I don't see why your friend couldn't do the same
with a similar 850MHz handset. Mind you the rates for accessing the
Internet via this method are outrageous on Telstra ($15/MB unless you
get a data bundle). So much for an underused network they are
encouraging uptake on...

"Albinus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Emjaye wrote:
>
>> Thanks for that. However, none of that info tells me if you can use a
>> NextG mobile phone as a "modem" to connect to this network. All it talks
>> about are those mobile cards and USB mobile cards.
>
> I can use my Samsung Z140 (3G but at 2100MHz) as a modem via the supplied
> data cable - I don't see why your friend couldn't do the same with a
> similar 850MHz handset. Mind you the rates for accessing the Internet via
> this method are outrageous on Telstra ($15/MB unless you get a data
> bundle). So much for an underused network they are

And at data bundles starting at $5? why wouldnt you?

> encouraging uptake on...

Only complete chumps PAYG

On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:44:34 +1100, Emjaye <[email protected]>
wrote:

>pedanticky said....
>
>> With the Big Pond service you need to buy the card/modem for around
>> $299 and then sign up for a contract (min 12 months). On the plus side
>
>That, I think will be the killer. He wants NextG for his trip. He's not
>interested in a 12 month contract for a service that he won't use beyond
>his trip.
>
>I perused that website but couldn't find any info regarding using a
>NextG phone as a modem and connecting to the wireless network. It
>appears that it can't be done. Or if it can be done, I can't find out
>the costs, what you need to do, etc..
>
>If you can't use a data connection, either via Bluetooth, USB or
>whatever to a NextG phone to connect to the high speed HSPDA (or
>whatever it's called) service, then you have to wonder why bother with a
>phone that has data connectivity for laptops, etc..
>

I've had my laptop hooked up to my TU500 (when I had it) before. There
is a modem S string to be put in and then it's ready. It works rather
fast too. The ONLY issue was the price of the data useage.

NextG still doesn't work in our area, so the few people that do have
NextG here curse it, most have gone back to CDMA as I did. If the data
plans for internet over NextG mobile phone (rather than the card)
wasn't so expensive, I would have kept my phone.

On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:02:12 +1100, Emjaye <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Albinus said....
>
>> I can use my Samsung Z140 (3G but at 2100MHz) as a modem via the
>> supplied data cable - I don't see why your friend couldn't do the same
>> with a similar 850MHz handset. Mind you the rates for accessing the
>
>You can with the Samsung NextG models. But I don't know whether that's
>to any ISP or whether you can access something like the Bigpond wireless
>service.
>
>If it is to say, Austarnet, which has Australia-wide dialup numbers,
>what speed would you be connected at?
>


My Telstra ZTE F850 software gives an option to connect to the
internet through my computer.
Haven't tried it, though.
Not gonna, either


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Emjaye wrote:
> Albinus said....
>
>> I can use my Samsung Z140 (3G but at 2100MHz) as a modem via the
>> supplied data cable - I don't see why your friend couldn't do the same
>> with a similar 850MHz handset. Mind you the rates for accessing the
>
> You can with the Samsung NextG models. But I don't know whether that's
> to any ISP or whether you can access something like the Bigpond wireless
> service.

You can connect to whatever packet based data endpoint APN's that are
enabled for your account, i.e. telstra.wap, telstra.internet etc. at
high speed using the *99# access number.
The telstra.bigpond APN is ONLY available to mobile accounts that have
been provisioned by BigPond.

> If it is to say, Austarnet, which has Australia-wide dialup numbers,
> what speed would you be connected at?

A circuit switched data connection to a dialup number will be limited to
the 9.6kbps speed of the circuit switched channel as per all GSM/UMTS
networks that haven't had the HSCSD feature activated. (CDMA networks on
the other hand have a 14.4kbps circuit switched data speed). It can also
take up to 30 seconds to have initialise the link.

Emjaye wrote:

> You can with the Samsung NextG models. But I don't know whether that's
> to any ISP or whether you can access something like the Bigpond wireless
> service.
>
> If it is to say, Austarnet, which has Australia-wide dialup numbers,
> what speed would you be connected at?

If you actually have a data service on your handset (like I used to),
then you'll be limited to either 9.6Kbps or 14.4Kbps for a CSD (circuit
switched) call. Much better to use packet data (GPRS etc), it's faster
and only billed by the data transferred - not by the time connected. If
you were to connect to your ISP via your mobile it would be at the
afformentioned speed plus you'll be slugged in the vicinity of 33c/min
to connect. Packet data through the Telstra network would be much better.

Tsunami Australia wrote:

> No, with HSDPA the speed is much faster. Currently running at around
> 520kb in our area with the expectation of 20mbit by 2009.

That's packet switched data though - not circuit switched

Tsunami Australia wrote:
> Albinus wrote:
>> Tsunami Australia wrote:
>>
>>> No, with HSDPA the speed is much faster. Currently running at around
>>> 520kb in our area with the expectation of 20mbit by 2009.
>>
>> That's packet switched data though - not circuit switched
>
> Ah this is true. I wouldn't have thought anyone would use the old method
> any more, with it's pathetic speed.

Actually some people still do since they can get free mobile internet
access during the 'free' hours of their plans etc.

Emjaye wrote:
> davmel said....
>
>> You can connect to whatever packet based data endpoint APN's that are
>> enabled for your account, i.e. telstra.wap, telstra.internet etc. at
>> high speed using the *99# access number.
>
> How do you know what "APN" is enabled for your account? And how is the
> *99# number dialed? Through software, manually via the phone, what?
>
> Thanks

You can call up and find out if you really need to know. The ones I
listed above are enabled for post paid Telstra customers by default.
The access number is just entered in whatever dialup software you're using.
You need to set up the default APN in the phone.

Albinus wrote:
> Emjaye wrote:
>
>> You can with the Samsung NextG models. But I don't know whether that's
>> to any ISP or whether you can access something like the Bigpond wireless
>> service.
>>
>> If it is to say, Austarnet, which has Australia-wide dialup numbers,
>> what speed would you be connected at?
>
> If you actually have a data service on your handset (like I used to),
> then you'll be limited to either 9.6Kbps or 14.4Kbps for a CSD (circuit
> switched) call. Much better to use packet data (GPRS etc), it's faster
> and only billed by the data transferred - not by the time connected. If
> you were to connect to your ISP via your mobile it would be at the
> afformentioned speed plus you'll be slugged in the vicinity of 33c/min
> to connect. Packet data through the Telstra network would be much better.

No, with HSDPA the speed is much faster. Currently running at around
520kb in our area with the expectation of 20mbit by 2009.

Albinus wrote:
> Tsunami Australia wrote:
>
>> No, with HSDPA the speed is much faster. Currently running at around
>> 520kb in our area with the expectation of 20mbit by 2009.
>
> That's packet switched data though - not circuit switched

Ah this is true. I wouldn't have thought anyone would use the old method
any more, with it's pathetic speed.

davmel wrote:
> Tsunami Australia wrote:
>> Albinus wrote:
>>> Tsunami Australia wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, with HSDPA the speed is much faster. Currently running at around
>>>> 520kb in our area with the expectation of 20mbit by 2009.
>>>
>>> That's packet switched data though - not circuit switched
>>
>> Ah this is true. I wouldn't have thought anyone would use the old
>> method any more, with it's pathetic speed.
>
> Actually some people still do since they can get free mobile internet
> access during the 'free' hours of their plans etc.

Anything to save a dollar for some lol. I'd go nuts with the speed and
I'd assume many websites would time out.