Two hundred 4WD_owners "Boohhhhed.." Telstra Mobile rep from their April 07 AGM?

On 5 May 2007 23:26:59 -0700 in aus.comms.mobile [email protected] may have written:
> The Telstra rep tried to sell ??inexistent, unreliable, over expensive
> ??Telstra Mobile services to serious 4WDrivers, where the existence of
> mobile telecommunications can result in a life and death situation.

If they're relying purely on a land-based mobile system to get them out
of said "life and death situation", they can't exactly be "serious
4WDrivers", can they...

And please stop cross-post-spamming like this. And if you do insist on
cross-posting instead of engaging your brain to determine the most
appropriate group, learn how to set a single "Followup-To" group.

PD

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Paul Day

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> If they're relying purely on a land-based mobile system to get them out
> of said "life and death situation", they can't exactly be "serious
> 4WDrivers", can they...

Good point, actually. The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF and HF
radios, and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone, (if
there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.

Two Bob <[email protected]> wrote
> Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:

>> If they're relying purely on a land-based mobile system to get them out of said "life and death
>> situation", they can't exactly be "serious 4WDrivers", can they...

Fantasy.

> Good point, actually.

Nope.

> The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF and HF radios,

Pig ignorant lie.

> and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone,

Makes a lot more sense to have that before UHF and
HF radios and a hell of a lot cheaper than those too.

> (if there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.

4WDs aint just used in the outback, cretin.

On Mon, 7 May 2007 14:19:35 +1000 Two Bob may have written:
> > If they're relying purely on a land-based mobile system to get them out
> > of said "life and death situation", they can't exactly be "serious
> > 4WDrivers", can they...
<
> Good point, actually. The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF and HF
> radios, and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone, (if
> there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.

I was more thinking just an EPIRB...

PD

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Paul Day

>>> If they're relying purely on a land-based mobile system to get them out
>>> of said "life and death situation", they can't exactly be "serious
>>> 4WDrivers", can they...
>
> Fantasy.
>
>> Good point, actually.
>
> Nope.
>
>> The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF and HF radios,
>
> Pig ignorant lie.
>
>> and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone,
>
> Makes a lot more sense to have that before UHF and
> HF radios and a hell of a lot cheaper than those too.

UHF has no costs at all after purchase, and HF only cost is the licence
unless you use radphone.

>> (if there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out
>> back.
>
> 4WDs aint just used in the outback, cretin.

Clueless, as usual.

>> > If they're relying purely on a land-based mobile system to get them out
>> > of said "life and death situation", they can't exactly be "serious
>> > 4WDrivers", can they...
> <
>> Good point, actually. The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF and HF
>> radios, and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone, (if
>> there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.
>
> I was more thinking just an EPIRB...

An EPIRB cant be used as a 2 way communication device.

On Mon, 7 May 2007 16:35:36 +1000 Rod Speed may have written:
> > (if there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.
>
> 4WDs aint just used in the outback, cretin.

Yeah, think of all those Mum's with dodgey NextG handsets getting stuck
on the curbs at the shopping centre!

PD

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Paul Day

On Mon, 7 May 2007 17:46:32 +1000 Two Bob may have written:
> >> Good point, actually. The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF and HF
> >> radios, and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone, (if
> >> there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.
> >
> > I was more thinking just an EPIRB...
>
> An EPIRB cant be used as a 2 way communication device.

That's right, but it'll get you help in a "life or death situation",
which the OP claimed he needed a terrestrial mobile phone for...

PD

--
Paul Day

Two Bob <[email protected]> wrote

>>>> If they're relying purely on a land-based mobile system to get
>>>> them out of said "life and death situation", they can't exactly be
>>>> "serious 4WDrivers", can they...

>> Fantasy.

>>> Good point, actually.

>> Nope.

>>> The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF and HF radios,

>> Pig ignorant lie.

>>> and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone,

>> Makes a lot more sense to have that before UHF and
>> HF radios and a hell of a lot cheaper than those too.

> UHF has no costs at all after purchase,

Duh, pity about the very limited range.

> and HF only cost is the licence unless you use radphone.

Pity about the cost and reliability of it.

>>> (if there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.

>> 4WDs aint just used in the outback, cretin.

> Clueless, as usual.

Your sig is supposed to have a --- above it, cretin.

Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> (if there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.

>> 4WDs aint just used in the outback, cretin.

> Yeah, think of all those Mum's with dodgey NextG handsets
> getting stuck on the curbs at the shopping centre!

Even a terminal ****wit such as yourself should be able to do better than that pathetic effort.

Two Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>> If they're relying purely on a land-based mobile system to get
>>>> them out of said "life and death situation", they can't exactly be
>>>> "serious 4WDrivers", can they...

>>> Good point, actually. The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF
>>> and HF radios, and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone, (if there is one at
>>> the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.

>> I was more thinking just an EPIRB...

> An EPIRB cant be used as a 2 way communication device.

Irrelevant to whether it makes a lot more sense than farting about with HF.

On May 7, 5:46 pm, "Two Bob" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > If they're relying purely on a land-based mobile system to get them out
> >> > of said "life and death situation", they can't exactly be "serious
> >> > 4WDrivers", can they...
> > <
> >> Good point, actually. The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF and HF
> >> radios, and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone, (if
> >> there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.
>
> > I was more thinking just an EPIRB...
>
> An EPIRB cant be used as a 2 way communication device.


Windmills or jack hammers or %#@#@@ can also be used as a 2 way
communication device.

Georges

On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:39:32 +1000 Rod Speed may have written:
> Your sig is supposed to have a --- above it, cretin.

My God! Roddles is wrong! Now here's a first.

May I be so bold as to suggest Rod takes a look at RFC 3676?

PD

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Paul Day

>>> Nope.
>
>>>> The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF and HF radios,
>
>>> Pig ignorant lie.
>
>>>> and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone,
>
>>> Makes a lot more sense to have that before UHF and
>>> HF radios and a hell of a lot cheaper than those too.
>
>> UHF has no costs at all after purchase,
>
> Duh, pity about the very limited range.

Duh, pity you know very little about how they use UHF and repeaters in the
outback.

>> and HF only cost is the licence unless you use radphone.
>
> Pity about the cost and reliability of it.

Yes, it is very expensive. Reliability seems to be acceptable for the RFD.

>>>> (if there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out
>>>> back.
>
>>> 4WDs aint just used in the outback, cretin.
>
>> Clueless, as usual.
>
> Your sig is supposed to have a --- above it, cretin.
>

Two Bob <[email protected]> wrote

>>>>> The bare minimum comms for 4wd would be UHF and HF radios,

>>>> Pig ignorant lie.

>>>>> and for those with a fair dinkum bank account, a sat phone,

>>>> Makes a lot more sense to have that before UHF and
>>>> HF radios and a hell of a lot cheaper than those too.

>>> UHF has no costs at all after purchase,

>> Duh, pity about the very limited range.

> Duh, pity you know very little about how they use UHF and repeaters in the outback.

Doesnt work where you need HF, you pathetic excuse for a bull**** artist.

A globalstar phone and an EPIRB leave both for dead cost wise for life and death situations, fool.

>>> and HF only cost is the licence unless you use radphone.

>> Pity about the cost and reliability of it.

> Yes, it is very expensive. Reliability seems to be acceptable for the RFD.

Wrong again, anyone with a clue uses a globalstar phone and an EPIRB for real life and death
situations.

And the bulk of the RFD installations arent in 4WDs anyway, you pathetic excuse for a bull****
artist.

>>>>> (if there is one at the time). A mobile phone is next to useless out back.

>>>> 4WDs aint just used in the outback, cretin.

>>> Clueless, as usual.

>> Your sig is supposed to have a -- above it, cretin.