Minister's licence condition unnecessary

"thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Michael J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> Mobile faults now go to a SINGLE call centre which ONLY DEALS WITH MOBILE
>> FAULTS.
>>
>> That being Stellar Adelaide and Service Advantage Townsville for After
>> Hours.
>>
>> Service Advantage, dick, thats the FAULTS arm of Telstra

> lol looks real professional: http://www.servad.com/

That has nothing to do with the Telstra internal BU called "Service
Advantage"...... do try & get your facts straight before posting.

cheers,

Lance


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thegoons wrote:
> Nope, it is an absolute disgrace that Telstra sell goods 'not as described'
> and 'not of merchantable quality' (eg: ZTE crap).

Just like they won't sell the Nokia N95 because they claim it is not
compatible with their 2100MHz 3G network. Funny that, considering it is
the same network the 3 uses!

Seems to me they couldn't get the N95 from Nokia at a cheap enough price
so they they spat the dummy.

So obviously the ZTE **** (that the people I know have been lumbered
with) was sourced from a very cheap source in China. Their electronics
industry is improving, but still isn't quite up to scratch yet, but
Tel$tra don't give a **** about quality as this example demonstrates.


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"Lance Lyon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Michael J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>> Mobile faults now go to a SINGLE call centre which ONLY DEALS WITH
>>> MOBILE FAULTS.
>>>
>>> That being Stellar Adelaide and Service Advantage Townsville for After
>>> Hours.
>>>
>>> Service Advantage, dick, thats the FAULTS arm of Telstra
>
>> lol looks real professional: http://www.servad.com/
>
> That has nothing to do with the Telstra internal BU called "Service
> Advantage"...... do try & get your facts straight before posting.
>
> cheers,
>
> Lance
>

You get that when organisations set up internal BUs with such ridiculous
names. Anyway Telstra is incredibly useless and impossible to get action
from

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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:45:20 +1000 in aus.comms.mobile Simon Templar may have written:
> The people I have spoken to that are using NextG are PISSED OFF big
> time because of the CRAP handsets they are forced to use! Most of
> them are unsuspecting and have no idea the **** they are sold and
> locked into a contract and stuck the **** they are sold that doesn't
> work.

> The network might be OK, but until some decent handsets are available
> it isn't worth ****.

I just bought myself a Nokiua 6120c (been waiting for something decent
to appear for NextG). Rather pleased with it and the coverage NextG
offers. Seems they've gone well beyond "every CDMA cell is now also a
NextG cell" as far as the NextG roll-out in the city is concerned.

PD

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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:24:20 GMT in aus.comms.mobile Michael J may have written:
> No one ever made the claim that "each individual CDMA customer will be no
> worse off with a NextG connection in terms of coverage".

Yeah, but the matter isn't helped by the low quality of many of the
handsets they're flogging and the wallies doing the flogging.

PD

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Paul Day

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:28:22 GMT in aus.comms.mobile Michael J may have written:
> I don't see any large "metropolitan" areas that had NO CDMA coverage and now
> have NextG coverage, ****wit.

I do.

> Go read the coverage maps

Coverage maps don't show in-building microcells within larger cells that
give you reception inside massive shopping centres, down in carparks or
underground train stations. There _are_ new NextG cells in the metro
area where there was/is no CDMA. eg, down the bottom of Melbourne
Central train station.

PD

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Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:45:20 +1000 in aus.comms.mobile Simon Templar
> may have written:
>> The people I have spoken to that are using NextG are PISSED OFF big
>> time because of the CRAP handsets they are forced to use! Most of
>> them are unsuspecting and have no idea the **** they are sold and
>> locked into a contract and stuck the **** they are sold that doesn't
>> work.
>
>> The network might be OK, but until some decent handsets are available
>> it isn't worth ****.
>
> I just bought myself a Nokiua 6120c (been waiting for something decent
> to appear for NextG). Rather pleased with it and the coverage NextG
> offers. Seems they've gone well beyond "every CDMA cell is now also a
> NextG cell" as far as the NextG roll-out in the city is concerned.

They city aint what they need to do to be allowed to turn the cdma system off.

>> They are already delivering on that with the 2.0m sq km vs 1.6m sq km
>> reach of NextG vs CDMA
>
> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

Its piss-easy for Telstra to substantiate, simply supply a list of all base
stations and their coverage ranges.

>> Considering that many wanker Telstra customers complain to the MPs
>> office.
>
> Because telstra just fobs them off.

No, the average bloke who whinges to their MP is someone who doesnt get what
they want.

Stamping their foot and bunching their fist gets them nowhere

>>>> Responding to the Government's establishment of a 1800 number to
>>>> take Next GT network complaints, Geoff said this was also
>>>> unnecessary as Telstra had its own customer service lines where
>>>> customers could actually fix problems they might be experiencing.
>
>>> Presumably the govt wont be trying to fob the callers off, stupid.
>
>> Nor is Telstra.
>
> Plenty have had telstra fob them off on that.

Nope. Just dickheads who cant understand how a mobile network works

>>>> "It's an unnecessary link in the chain
>
>>> Nope.
>
>> Yep.
>
> Nope.
>
>> How is your MP going to fix a handset fault, give coverage advice or
>> advise where to buy a patch cable?
>
> They get to record who has complained and telstra
> wont be able to claim that no one who complained
> didnt have their problem resolved to their satisfaction.

Telstra already record such issues anyway, so whats the point?

"Lance Lyon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Michael J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Therre are already 2m 3G customers on Telstra, mostly on NextG. This is
>> more than CDMA EVER had.
>
> Yep & most of those are the free phones they gave to staff at the launch
> of the service!

What free phones? hardly!
>
> cheers,
>
> Lance
>
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>>>> The decision by the Minister for Communications, Helen Coonan, to issue
>>>> Telstra with a draft licence condition will make no difference to the
>>>> scheduled closure date of the CDMA network according to Executive
>>>> Managing Director Wireless, John Gonner.
>>> <SNIP>
>>>
>>> What's this Tel$ta propaganda?
>>
>> Its called "a media release"
>>
>>> The people I have spoken to that are using NextG are PISSED OFF big time
>>> because of the CRAP handsets they are forced to use! Most of them are
>>
>> Hmmm.
>>
>> So they walked into a store, and signed a contract to buy a handset.
>>
>> No one ASKED them to. No one FORCED them to.
>>
>> You've got wankers for friends
>>
> Nope, it is an absolute disgrace that Telstra sell goods 'not as
> described' and 'not of merchantable quality' (eg: ZTE crap).

Then the TPA will be sicced onto them without any difficulties.

Just like it was to Nokia with the fading 5110 screens
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"Lance Lyon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Michael J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>> Mobile faults now go to a SINGLE call centre which ONLY DEALS WITH
>>> MOBILE FAULTS.
>>>
>>> That being Stellar Adelaide and Service Advantage Townsville for After
>>> Hours.
>>>
>>> Service Advantage, dick, thats the FAULTS arm of Telstra
>
>> lol looks real professional: http://www.servad.com/
>
> That has nothing to do with the Telstra internal BU called "Service
> Advantage"...... do try & get your facts straight before posting.

Its never stopped him before

>>>> Mobile faults now go to a SINGLE call centre which ONLY DEALS WITH
>>>> MOBILE FAULTS.
>>>>
>>>> That being Stellar Adelaide and Service Advantage Townsville for After
>>>> Hours.
>>>>
>>>> Service Advantage, dick, thats the FAULTS arm of Telstra
>>
>>> lol looks real professional: http://www.servad.com/
>>
>> That has nothing to do with the Telstra internal BU called "Service
>> Advantage"...... do try & get your facts straight before posting.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Lance
>>
> You get that when organisations set up internal BUs with such ridiculous
> names. Anyway Telstra is incredibly useless and impossible to get action
> from

It's not a BU, anyway

"Paul Day" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:45:20 +1000 in aus.comms.mobile Simon Templar may
> have written:
>> The people I have spoken to that are using NextG are PISSED OFF big
>> time because of the CRAP handsets they are forced to use! Most of
>> them are unsuspecting and have no idea the **** they are sold and
>> locked into a contract and stuck the **** they are sold that doesn't
>> work.
>
>> The network might be OK, but until some decent handsets are available
>> it isn't worth ****.
>
> I just bought myself a Nokiua 6120c (been waiting for something decent
> to appear for NextG). Rather pleased with it and the coverage NextG
> offers. Seems they've gone well beyond "every CDMA cell is now also a
> NextG cell" as far as the NextG roll-out in the city is concerned.

Yep, you are right. Its a great network
>
> PD
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Michael J <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Nope, it is an absolute disgrace that Telstra sell goods 'not as
>>> described' and 'not of merchantable quality' (eg: ZTE crap).
>>
>> Just like they won't sell the Nokia N95 because they claim it is not
>> compatible with their 2100MHz 3G network. Funny that, considering
>> it is the same network the 3 uses!

> More fool 3 to use a sub-standard handset

Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

>> Seems to me they couldn't get the N95 from Nokia at a cheap enough price so they they spat the
>> dummy.

> Nope, they would have just sold it for the normal COST + PROFIT price.

No such animal.

Michael J <[email protected]> wrote

>>> They are already delivering on that with the 2.0m sq km vs 1.6m sq km reach of NextG vs CDMA

>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> Its piss-easy for Telstra to substantiate,

Nope.

> simply supply a list of all base stations and their coverage ranges.

Doesnt substantiate a damned thing.

>>> Considering that many wanker Telstra customers complain to the MPs office.

>> Because telstra just fobs them off.

> No,

Yep.

> the average bloke who whinges to their MP is someone who doesnt get what they want.

Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> Stamping their foot and bunching their fist gets them nowhere

It just got Coonan shafting telstra with a telephone pole.

>>>>> Responding to the Government's establishment of a 1800 number to take Next GT network
>>>>> complaints, Geoff said this was also
>>>>> unnecessary as Telstra had its own customer service lines where
>>>>> customers could actually fix problems they might be experiencing.

>>>> Presumably the govt wont be trying to fob the callers off, stupid.

>>> Nor is Telstra.

>> Plenty have had telstra fob them off on that.

> Nope.

Yep.

> Just dickheads who cant understand how a mobile network works

Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

>>>>> "It's an unnecessary link in the chain

>>>> Nope.

>>> Yep.

>> Nope.

>>> How is your MP going to fix a handset fault, give coverage advice or advise where to buy a patch
>>> cable?

>> They get to record who has complained and telstra
>> wont be able to claim that no one who complained
>> didnt have their problem resolved to their satisfaction.

> Telstra already record such issues anyway,

Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> so whats the point?

Independant documentation of those who claim to have got a worse result, stupid.