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  1. #1
    Marts
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    My daughter and her husband are with 3. They have LG 3G phones, which, frankly a
    pieces of crap. Their contracts are up and now they're looking at replacement
    phones.

    I was wondering if there are phones that if in the 3 area and are on 3G will
    roam to NextG when they're beyond 3 coverage?

    They live SE of Melbourne and towards the outer fringe of 3's 3G coverage. My
    daughter works a bit further east so her mobile roams to Telstra's GSM as she
    goes to work. The son in law's phone drops calls all the time as it loses 3G
    coverage, say, on the Met. It is supposed to be a "bumpless" transfer from 3G to
    GSM when this happens, but neither of their phones will work this way.

    There are other issues with the phone such as crappy software, phones constantly
    needing reseting, etc..

    So, would something like the new Motorola Razr V9, a NextG phone, with their 3G
    SIM card in it work on both 3G and NextG?



    See More: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?




  2. #2
    thegoons
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    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?

    Nope. Handsets may be capable, but 3 only have a roaming agbreement with
    Telstra 2G (GSM), not NEXT-G (850MHz 3G)

    "Marts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:2a5aj359vh4a2okrodirmgbk4mei9v3gj8@martz_57.com...
    > My daughter and her husband are with 3. They have LG 3G phones, which,
    > frankly a
    > pieces of crap. Their contracts are up and now they're looking at
    > replacement
    > phones.
    >
    > I was wondering if there are phones that if in the 3 area and are on 3G
    > will
    > roam to NextG when they're beyond 3 coverage?
    >
    > They live SE of Melbourne and towards the outer fringe of 3's 3G coverage.
    > My
    > daughter works a bit further east so her mobile roams to Telstra's GSM as
    > she
    > goes to work. The son in law's phone drops calls all the time as it loses
    > 3G
    > coverage, say, on the Met. It is supposed to be a "bumpless" transfer from
    > 3G to
    > GSM when this happens, but neither of their phones will work this way.
    >
    > There are other issues with the phone such as crappy software, phones
    > constantly
    > needing reseting, etc..
    >
    > So, would something like the new Motorola Razr V9, a NextG phone, with
    > their 3G
    > SIM card in it work on both 3G and NextG?




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  3. #3
    Graeme Willox
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    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?

    Marts wrote:
    > My daughter and her husband are with 3. They have LG 3G phones, which, frankly a
    > pieces of crap. Their contracts are up and now they're looking at replacement
    > phones.
    >
    > I was wondering if there are phones that if in the 3 area and are on 3G will
    > roam to NextG when they're beyond 3 coverage?


    As "thegoons" has already mentioned, there are phones that can, but it's
    still not possible. This is due to Telstra making the decision that
    they will neither wholesale NextG, nor allow 3 customers to roam onto
    the NextG network.



  4. #4
    Alan Parkington
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    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?


    "Graeme Willox" <[email protected]> moaned in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > This is due to Telstra making the decision that



    Actually, it is due to the failure of 3 to build a decent network.





  5. #5
    Graeme Willox
    Guest

    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?

    Alan Parkington wrote:
    > "Graeme Willox" <[email protected]> moaned in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> This is due to Telstra making the decision that

    >
    >
    > Actually, it is due to the failure of 3 to build a decent network.
    >
    >


    The decision by 3 not to build a bigger network was indeed their
    decision, and they wear whatever consequences there may be. Of course
    even Telstra must have thought it was a reasonably worthwhile 3G network
    to have bought half of it when they did.

    On the other hand, the fact that Telstra chose not to wholesale NextG,
    nor to allow domestic roaming onto NextG was noone's decision but
    theirs. It has nothing to do with whether or not 3 build a decent network.



  6. #6
    Marts
    Guest

    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?

    Graeme Willox wrote...

    > As "thegoons" has already mentioned, there are phones that can, but it's
    > still not possible. This is due to Telstra making the decision that
    > they will neither wholesale NextG, nor allow 3 customers to roam onto
    > the NextG network.


    Yeah, pity. Thing is if Telstra did allow this, then I'd get a 3 account. I'd
    then have the best of both worlds - the rural coverage of NextG and the cheap
    capped plan that 3 has to offer.

    As an aside I see now that Optus, in an advert in today's Herald-Sun, has a
    $19/50 cap plan. That would suit me perfectly. Unfortunately, Optus coverage in
    the stix ain't that flash, and in any case, because of a billing ****up years
    ago that hurt my wife's credit rating, not to mention her state of mind, I
    wouldn't piss on Optus if it were on fire.


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    Our last fight was my fault: My wife asked me "What's on the TV?" I said,"Dust!"



  7. #7
    adam
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    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?


    "Marts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:brqcj3pojahdtq57mnoigu9khm68gmck6t@martz_57.com...
    > Graeme Willox wrote...
    >


    > Yeah, pity. Thing is if Telstra did allow this, then I'd get a 3 account.
    > I'd
    > then have the best of both worlds - the rural coverage of NextG and the
    > cheap
    > capped plan that 3 has to offer.


    ROTFLMAO. Maybe you should come up to country NSW to see how great the
    rural coverage ISN`T ;o)




  8. #8
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?


    "Marts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:brqcj3pojahdtq57mnoigu9khm68gmck6t@martz_57.com...
    > Graeme Willox wrote...
    >
    >> As "thegoons" has already mentioned, there are phones that can, but it's
    >> still not possible. This is due to Telstra making the decision that
    >> they will neither wholesale NextG, nor allow 3 customers to roam onto
    >> the NextG network.

    >
    > Yeah, pity. Thing is if Telstra did allow this, then I'd get a 3 account.
    > I'd


    Then just get a NextG service, tool





  9. #9
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?

    > As an aside I see now that Optus, in an advert in today's Herald-Sun, has
    > a
    > $19/50 cap plan. That would suit me perfectly. Unfortunately, Optus
    > coverage in
    > the stix ain't that flash, and in any case, because of a billing ****up
    > years
    > ago that hurt my wife's credit rating, not to mention her state of mind, I
    > wouldn't piss on Optus if it were on fire.


    Then that $19/50 plan doesnt suit you at all, dick.






  10. #10
    Core2Duo
    Guest

    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?


    "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:iuQ%[email protected]...
    >
    > "Marts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:brqcj3pojahdtq57mnoigu9khm68gmck6t@martz_57.com...
    >> Graeme Willox wrote...
    >>
    >>> As "thegoons" has already mentioned, there are phones that can, but it's
    >>> still not possible. This is due to Telstra making the decision that
    >>> they will neither wholesale NextG, nor allow 3 customers to roam onto
    >>> the NextG network.

    >>
    >> Yeah, pity. Thing is if Telstra did allow this, then I'd get a 3 account.
    >> I'd

    >
    > Then just get a NextG service, tool
    >
    >


    Loser





  11. #11
    Marts
    Guest

    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?

    Michael wrote...

    > Then that $19/50 plan doesnt suit you at all, dick.


    Do do it deliberately? Being obtuse, that is?





  12. #12
    Marts
    Guest

    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?

    Michael wrote...

    > > Yeah, pity. Thing is if Telstra did allow this, then I'd get a 3 account.
    > > I'd

    >
    > Then just get a NextG service, tool


    Again, in your over zealous attempt to stick up for Telstra, you've missed the
    point that I was making - that I'd sign up with 3 Mobile for its $29 cap plan if
    it would roam to NextG when not in its own 3G coverage. That'd suit me down to
    the ground as far as being on a halfway decent plan goes and getting better
    coverage in rural areas.




  13. #13
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?


    "Marts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:bvr2k3dda7n9c87sa4ke50m0j4dhvmp77r@martz_57.com...
    > Michael wrote...
    >
    >> > Yeah, pity. Thing is if Telstra did allow this, then I'd get a 3
    >> > account.
    >> > I'd

    >>
    >> Then just get a NextG service, tool

    >
    > Again, in your over zealous attempt to stick up for Telstra, you've missed
    > the
    > point that I was making - that I'd sign up with 3 Mobile for its $29 cap
    > plan if
    > it would roam to NextG when not in its own 3G coverage. That'd suit me
    > down to
    > the ground as far as being on a halfway decent plan goes and getting
    > better
    > coverage in rural areas.


    No, I think you missed the point.

    You DONT get to stamp your foot and demand NextG service from someone other
    than Telstra.

    You want NextG, you go to the source.

    End user customers dont get to demand wholesale arrangements
    >






  14. #14
    DaN
    Guest

    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    >
    > "Graeme Willox" <[email protected]> moaned in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > This is due to Telstra making the decision that

    >
    >
    > Actually, it is due to the failure of 3 to build a decent network.
    >
    >
    >


    Not to mention their ****ty support and the crappy handsets they supply.


    Im surprised Telstra have any deal with three.

    Telstra = Overpriced but reliable
    3 = Dirt cheap piece of ****

    ~Dan



  15. #15
    Snapper
    Guest

    Re: Are there 3G phones that will work on NextG or vice versa?

    DaN wrote...


    >Not to mention their ****ty support and the crappy handsets they supply.


    Such as?

    My daughter and her husband renewed their $29 cap plans with 3 Mobile
    recently. Their new phones, a Motorola V3x and a Nokia somethingorother
    work fine. Reception is heaps better too than the LG phones that they had
    originally.

    Only thing is when they come out to visit us they have GSM only coverage.
    But that's by-the-by as they don't have a need to use the 3G services out
    here.

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