20 reasons why Next G is better than CDMA

Alan Parkington wrote...

> Your age is showing, old man. Kids these days LIVE on their mobile and love
> the extra services.

Yep, Parky's probably right, here. After all, look at the mind numbing ads for
ringtones at $5 a pop. Only teenagers would be stupid enough to succumb to such
advertising. Then add in the "wow factor" with regards to getting crappy pay TV
on a phone, or webcam-like video calls and they're in a perpetual state of
orgasmic raptures.

Any wonder that as they grow older they have no ****ing idea on how to manage
money, or how to live within their means. The crunch is coming, folks, bigtime.

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Pagey wrote...

> I'm not a fan of Telstra, but I can't stand num-nut conspiracy theorists
> like yourself who make claims which simply can't be backed up.

It was posted here by a local recently that a place called Dargo in Victoria
(eastern part of the state) had its CDMA service turned off in November.

That's at least one place. Who knows how many others there are.

Graeme Willox wrote...

> Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
> replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We had the
> car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have anywhere near the
> same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than 100 km's
> from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop woop.

Which capital city? And east, west, north or south of it? In other words, where
are you, exactly? There might be others on this NG who are familiar with the
area and may be able to confirm this.

Snapper <[email protected]> wrote
> Alan Parkington wrote

>> Your age is showing, old man. Kids these days
>> LIVE on their mobile and love the extra services.

> Yep, Parky's probably right, here.

Not in the sense he originally claimed it, that NextG is the
only thing they consider because of its extra services.

> After all, look at the mind numbing ads for ringtones at $5 a
> pop. Only teenagers would be stupid enough to succumb to
> such advertising. Then add in the "wow factor" with regards
> to getting crappy pay TV on a phone, or webcam-like video
> calls and they're in a perpetual state of orgasmic raptures.

> Any wonder that as they grow older they have no ****ing
> idea on how to manage money, or how to live within their
> means. The crunch is coming, folks, bigtime.

Nope, they eventually get a boot in the arse and come to their senses, most of them.

Snapper wrote:
> Graeme Willox wrote...
>
>> Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
>> replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We had the
>> car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have anywhere near the
>> same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than 100 km's
>> from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop woop.
>
> Which capital city? And east, west, north or south of it? In other words, where
> are you, exactly? There might be others on this NG who are familiar with the
> area and may be able to confirm this.

South of Brisbane. I'm not sure what results we got in other areas.

The Parliamentarians will never allow CDMA to be shutdown. Bob Hawke told me
so.
Regards, Bill Oddie

"Spokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jan 13, 11:01 am, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Spokes <[email protected]> wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
> >> Alan Parkington <[email protected]> wrote
> >>> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA
> >>> network,
> >> Planned and what happens are two entirely different matters.
> >>> and a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.
> >> None of which have even the remotest relevance to
> >> those who find that the cdma system suits them fine.
> >> If the new govt actually had any balls at all, it would tell the mex
> >> and its arse lickers that they cant turn the cdma system off, ever.
> >>> Next G network CDMA network
> >>> 1. More sites (towers) > 6,000 3,480
> >>> 2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million
> >>> sq kms* 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
> >>> 4. Peak network speed 14.4 Mbps 2.4 Mbps
> >>> 5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps
> >>> (using a 7 series device) 300 - 600 kbps
> >>> (1xEV-DO)
> >>> 6. Peak upload speeds 1.9 Mbps 153 kbps
> >>> 7. Wireless Broadband population coverage 98.9% 49%
> >>> 8. Wireless Broadband geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms >
> >>> 7,600 sq kms (EV-DO)
> >>> 9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9
> >>> countries 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
> >>> 11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No
> >>> 12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No
> >>> 13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No
> >>> 14. BigPond TV Yes No
> >>> 15. Sensis search Yes No
> >>> 16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,
> >>> including full match replays Yes No
> >>> 17. Whereis maps Yes No
> >>> 18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No
> >>> 19. View and pay your Telstra bills on your mobile Yes No
> >>> 20. Will be available after early 2008 Yes No
> > I was talking with a communications networks engineer
> > the other day and she told me that CDMA is going, period.
>
> Telstra gets no say what so ever on that, the govt does.
>
> > Jan 28 is the cut-off and that's that.
>
> That is a bare faced pig ignorant lie. The previous govt changed the
> license
> conditions so that the govt decides on the cut off date, not telstra.
>
> > She further said that it's time to move on with the new technology,
>
> She gets no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.
>
> > and at the end of the day NG is much better than CDMA.
>
> She gets no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.- Hide
> quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

I didn't say who she worked for. She's an engineer and she was only
stating what is known throughout the whole industry and the general
public.
As yet, the government hasn't indicated a change of mind on the cut-
off date away from Jan 28.

I believe there has been one concession though, of allowing an extra
30 days for CDMA numbers to be retained for migration purposes to GSM
networks. After that, the number is lost if one hasn't made the change
in time.

Hvae you migrated away from the CDMA network Rod?



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"Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Pagey wrote...
>
>> I'm not a fan of Telstra, but I can't stand num-nut conspiracy theorists
>> like yourself who make claims which simply can't be backed up.
>
> It was posted here by a local recently that a place called Dargo in
> Victoria
> (eastern part of the state) had its CDMA service turned off in November.

As I said - claims that can't be backed up.

While I don't doubt the person who posted that info suffered from reduced
reception, it is NOT well known - or even known at all - if Telstra has been
shutting down CDMA sites to reduce reception, as claimed by Templar.

Anybody would (or at least should) agree that 'one' person hardly equals
'well known'.

P

> I believe there has been one concession though, of allowing an extra
> 30 days for CDMA numbers to be retained for migration purposes to GSM

28 days, not 30.

> networks. After that, the number is lost if one hasn't made the change
> in time.

> It's well known that Tel$tra have been turning off CDMA cells for months
> to degrade service in a pathetic attempt to move customers over to Next G.

Liar

>> 2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million sq
>> kms*
>> 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
>
> Population coverage is a crock of ****!

Bull****

>> 9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9
>> countries
>
> Yeh, right how many countries are using UMTS 850MHz? I can't see people
> roaming too much!

Moron. You can roam onto other 2g networks - 170 countries

>> 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
>
> Most people don't give a **** about video calling!

you are right for once.

> Most people don't give a **** about Mobile Foxtel!

Nope, that one is pretty popular

"Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Pagey wrote...
>
>> I'm not a fan of Telstra, but I can't stand num-nut conspiracy theorists
>> like yourself who make claims which simply can't be backed up.
>
> It was posted here by a local recently that a place called Dargo in
> Victoria
> (eastern part of the state) had its CDMA service turned off in November.

And it was a mindless conspiracy theory.

If anything, its a fault, and those stupid Gippslanders wouldnt know how to
report one if their arse was on fire.

> That's at least one place. Who knows how many others there are.

Why would Telstra select Dargo, to turn CDMA off, and not close any other
sites in Aus?

"Paul Day" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:08:15 Graeme Willox may have written:
> <snip>
>
> 1 reason why CDMA is better than NextG out in the bush: Calls work much
> further from the BTS.

But NextG has more total coverage (via more sites) so your point is useless

"Graeme Willox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Snapper wrote:
>> Graeme Willox wrote...
>>
>>> Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
>>> replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We had the
>>> car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have anywhere near the
>>> same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than 100 km's
>>> from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop woop.
>>
>> Which capital city? And east, west, north or south of it? In other words,
>> where
>> are you, exactly? There might be others on this NG who are familiar with
>> the
>> area and may be able to confirm this.
>
> South of Brisbane. I'm not sure what results we got in other areas.

"south of brisbane" - really impressive accuracy there

"Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Alan Parkington wrote...
>
>> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network,
>> and
>> a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.
>>
>> 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
>
> Wow. 0.9 percent increase. I'm impressed. Of course, it's probably in
> areas
> where it's not needed...

The differential b/w 98.9 and 98.0 is 400,000 sq km. Which is apparantly
twice the size of Victoria, fool

Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Paul Day" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:08:15 Graeme Willox may have written:
>> <snip>
>>
>> 1 reason why CDMA is better than NextG out in the bush: Calls work
>> much further from the BTS.
>
> But NextG has more total coverage (via more sites) so your point is
> useless

No it isnt when the extra sites arent anywhere near where someone
who used to be able to use a cdma phone cant use a NextG phone.

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:20:40 Michael may have written:
> > 1 reason why CDMA is better than NextG out in the bush: Calls work much
> > further from the BTS.
>
> But NextG has more total coverage (via more sites) so your point is useless

Not so pointless to the outback worker who no longer has mobile coverage
at their primary place of work/residence come Jan. 28th.

PD

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Paul Day