20 reasons why Next G is better than CDMA

Pagey wrote...

> > (eastern part of the state) had its CDMA service turned off in November.
>
> As I said - claims that can't be backed up.

All I can say is that when a few mates on a dirtbike trip who stopped in Dargo
for lunch said that there was no CDMA signal at all. that was in or around
early-mid November. There was, however, a NextG signal in the town.

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"Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Pagey wrote...
>
>> > (eastern part of the state) had its CDMA service turned off in
>> > November.
>>
>> As I said - claims that can't be backed up.
>
> All I can say is that when a few mates on a dirtbike trip who stopped in
> Dargo
> for lunch said that there was no CDMA signal at all. that was in or around
> early-mid November. There was, however, a NextG signal in the town.

Which, as I posted before, proves nothing towards Templars claim.

A few people in the same location not getting a usable signal two to three
months ago is completely different to the claim by Templar, being that it is
"well known" that Telstra are deliberately shutting down CDMA sites to
reduce reception.

If Templar's ramblings were indeed the case there would be a far, far larger
outcry than a couple of posts on Internet NG's and forums - don't you think?

P

Michael wrote:
> "Graeme Willox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Snapper wrote:
>>> Graeme Willox wrote...
>>>
>>>> Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
>>>> replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We had the
>>>> car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have anywhere near the
>>>> same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than 100 km's
>>>> from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop woop.
>>> Which capital city? And east, west, north or south of it? In other words,
>>> where
>>> are you, exactly? There might be others on this NG who are familiar with
>>> the
>>> area and may be able to confirm this.
>> South of Brisbane. I'm not sure what results we got in other areas.
>
> "south of brisbane" - really impressive accuracy there
>
>
Out on the Mt Lindesay Hwy, south of Beaudesert

On Thu, 10 Shvat 5768 02:07 Graeme Willox translated the ancient runes
thusly:

> Michael wrote:
>> "Graeme Willox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Snapper wrote:
>>>> Graeme Willox wrote...
>>>>
>>>>> Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
>>>>> replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We
>>>>> had the car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have
>>>>> anywhere near the
>>>>> same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than
>>>>> 100 km's
>>>>> from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop
>>>>> woop.
>>>> Which capital city? And east, west, north or south of it? In
>>>> other words, where
>>>> are you, exactly? There might be others on this NG who are
>>>> familiar with the
>>>> area and may be able to confirm this.
>>> South of Brisbane. I'm not sure what results we got in other
>>> areas.
>>
>> "south of brisbane" - really impressive accuracy there
>>
>>
> Out on the Mt Lindesay Hwy, south of Beaudesert

<evil grin> Wouldn't be the Palen Creek Correctional Farm, would it?

Kate - who has lived in Rathdowney
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"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Paul Day" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:08:15 Graeme Willox may have written:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> 1 reason why CDMA is better than NextG out in the bush: Calls work
>>> much further from the BTS.
>>
>> But NextG has more total coverage (via more sites) so your point is
>> useless
>
> No it isnt when the extra sites arent anywhere near where someone
> who used to be able to use a cdma phone cant use a NextG phone.

There are only a handful of situations like that. Mostly in non-viable
country areas, so who gives a toss
>
>

"Paul Day" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:20:40 Michael may have written:
>> > 1 reason why CDMA is better than NextG out in the bush: Calls work much
>> > further from the BTS.
>>
>> But NextG has more total coverage (via more sites) so your point is
>> useless
>
> Not so pointless to the outback worker who no longer has mobile coverage
> at their primary place of work/residence come Jan. 28th.

Why would his CDMA phone not work on Jan 28th?

"Kate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Shvat 5768 02:07 Graeme Willox translated the ancient runes
> thusly:
>
>> Michael wrote:
>>> "Graeme Willox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Snapper wrote:
>>>>> Graeme Willox wrote...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
>>>>>> replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We
>>>>>> had the car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have
>>>>>> anywhere near the
>>>>>> same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than
>>>>>> 100 km's
>>>>>> from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop
>>>>>> woop.
>>>>> Which capital city? And east, west, north or south of it? In
>>>>> other words, where
>>>>> are you, exactly? There might be others on this NG who are
>>>>> familiar with the
>>>>> area and may be able to confirm this.
>>>> South of Brisbane. I'm not sure what results we got in other
>>>> areas.
>>>
>>> "south of brisbane" - really impressive accuracy there
>>>
>>>
>> Out on the Mt Lindesay Hwy, south of Beaudesert
>
> <evil grin> Wouldn't be the Palen Creek Correctional Farm, would it?

Telstra recommends that handsets be vertically held in the hand with the
antenna extended, if applicable.

They will not work very well whilst concealed in prisoners anuses

"Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Pagey wrote...
>
>> > (eastern part of the state) had its CDMA service turned off in
>> > November.
>>
>> As I said - claims that can't be backed up.
>
> All I can say is that when a few mates on a dirtbike trip who stopped in
> Dargo
> for lunch said that there was no CDMA signal at all. that was in or around
> early-mid November. There was, however, a NextG signal in the town.

How many of your "mates" raised a fault report?
>

Michael <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> Graeme Willox wrote

>>>> 1 reason why CDMA is better than NextG out in the bush: Calls work much further from the BTS.

>>> But NextG has more total coverage (via more sites) so your point is useless

>> No it isnt when the extra sites arent anywhere near where someone
>> who used to be able to use a cdma phone cant use a NextG phone.

> There are only a handful of situations like that.

Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

> Mostly in non-viable country areas, so who gives a toss

The acma, you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning ****wit child.

Kate wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Shvat 5768 02:07 Graeme Willox translated the ancient runes
> thusly:
>
>> Michael wrote:
>>> "Graeme Willox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Snapper wrote:
>>>>> Graeme Willox wrote...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
>>>>>> replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We
>>>>>> had the car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have
>>>>>> anywhere near the
>>>>>> same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than
>>>>>> 100 km's
>>>>>> from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop
>>>>>> woop.
>>>>> Which capital city? And east, west, north or south of it? In
>>>>> other words, where
>>>>> are you, exactly? There might be others on this NG who are
>>>>> familiar with the
>>>>> area and may be able to confirm this.
>>>> South of Brisbane. I'm not sure what results we got in other
>>>> areas.
>>> "south of brisbane" - really impressive accuracy there
>>>
>>>
>> Out on the Mt Lindesay Hwy, south of Beaudesert
>
> <evil grin> Wouldn't be the Palen Creek Correctional Farm, would it?
>
> Kate - who has lived in Rathdowney

Not specifically, but down that way and around the Rathdowney area
generally. I don't know whether it's handset related or network
related. We have 4 of the handsets, so I'd suggest it's a network
problem unless we happened to get 4 faulty handsets. I work in
emergency services and we use mobile phones operationally all the time.
CDMA works fine out there, but NextG doesn't.

Michael wrote...

> If anything, its a fault, and those stupid Gippslanders wouldnt know how to
> report one if their arse was on fire.

They probably think the same about you, too...

> Why would Telstra select Dargo, to turn CDMA off, and not close any other
> sites in Aus?

Who knows why Telstra does what it does? It's one of those great unanswered
questions.

Michael wrote...

> > Wow. 0.9 percent increase. I'm impressed. Of course, it's probably in
> > areas where it's not needed...

> The differential b/w 98.9 and 98.0 is 400,000 sq km. Which is apparantly
> twice the size of Victoria, fool

What an offensive prick you are.

In any case, this "0.9%" increase could well be somewhere like the Simpson
Desert where it matters **** all in the grand scheme of things. What matters if
that the coverage is extended where people actually go.

It would be nice, if but a pipe dream, that Telstra coverage maps were actually
accurate and truly represented the coverage that people get and we could then
overlay the CDMA one with the NextG one to see what the difference actually is.

But that'd be asking too much, wouldn't it?

Michael wrote...

> > Most people don't give a **** about Mobile Foxtel!
>
> Nope, that one is pretty popular

I'm tipping with kids/teenagers/people with more money than sense.

I was in the doctor's surgery the other day waiting for my wife. 3 kids, girls,
around 13-16. All had their phones out and texting away like crazy. The speed of
input would put a court stenographer to shame, so quick that they were.

That sort of expertise only comes with oodles of practice, which I suspect
explains their focus on what they consider to be the Important Issues of their
lives.

I wonder what's gonna happen when their parents, hit by the interest rate crunch
and inevitable recession are going to do when the first of their luxuries, the
mobile phone will be the first to go. Or the parental financing of it, that
is...

Paul Day wrote...

> Not so pointless to the outback worker who no longer has mobile coverage
> at their primary place of work/residence come Jan. 28th.

that won't wash with him. His response (and I've yet to see it if he's already
posted it) would probably be something along the lines of "it's his fault for
living in an area with no decent coverage." or some such rot.

The problem with most urban dwellers is that they don't appreciate the resources
that their standard of living requires and is only available from "the bush".
Whether it be milk, water, power, gas, food (meat, garden crops, veges, etc.) or
the resources that make this country as rich as it is - again, gas and mineral
resources, you need people to live out there. And if you don't offer them a
reasonable standard of living, then they won't want to live and work out there.
And these urbanites will whinge and ***** when they can't turn on their plasmas
or if the cost of a steak heads north of $50 a kilo.

Snapper <[email protected]> wrote:
> Michael wrote...
>
>>> Most people don't give a **** about Mobile Foxtel!
>>
>> Nope, that one is pretty popular
>
> I'm tipping with kids/teenagers/people with more money than sense.
>
> I was in the doctor's surgery the other day waiting for my wife. 3
> kids, girls, around 13-16. All had their phones out and texting away
> like crazy. The speed of input would put a court stenographer to
> shame, so quick that they were.
>
> That sort of expertise only comes with oodles of practice, which I
> suspect explains their focus on what they consider to be the
> Important Issues of their lives.
>
> I wonder what's gonna happen when their parents, hit by the interest
> rate crunch and inevitable recession are going to do when the first
> of their luxuries, the mobile phone will be the first to go. Or the
> parental financing of it, that is...

Wanna bet ?