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  1. #16
    thegoons
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    Re: Stolen mobile used to buy Premium SMS Habbo Hotel Credits


    "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "DavidBee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> I'm writing this on behalf of my 17 year old daughter.
    >>
    >> Her mobile phone was stolen last month. Someone used it and ran up a
    >> bill of over $400.00. When we received the bill we found that the thief
    >> made premium SMS calls on the number 19942226 which were used to buy
    >> credits from the Habbo Hotel. We believe that the person was someone
    >> from my daughter's school.
    >>
    >> We're going to make out a police report and the police will require
    >> details of the account. Does anyone know the legal situation and the
    >> best way to approach it. There are privacy laws, but as this is a
    >> criminal act can the police get details of the Habbo Hotel account
    >> holder?

    >
    > Just make a police report and the police will do nothing.
    >
    > Pay the bill and move on


    no, involve TISSC and TIO to attempt to avoid full repayment

    >
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> David
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> DavidBee
    >> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

    >
    >



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  2. #17
    Rod Speed
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    Re: Stolen mobile used to buy Premium SMS Habbo Hotel Credits

    thegoons <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> DavidBee <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> I'm writing this on behalf of my 17 year old daughter.

    >>
    >>> Her mobile phone was stolen last month. Someone used it and
    >>> ran up a bill of over $400.00. When we received the bill we found
    >>> that the thief made premium SMS calls on the number 19942226
    >>> which were used to buy credits from the Habbo Hotel. We believe
    >>> that the person was someone from my daughter's school.

    >>
    >>> We're going to make out a police report and the police will require
    >>> details of the account. Does anyone know the legal situation and the
    >>> best way to approach it. There are privacy laws, but as this is a
    >>> criminal act can the police get details of the Habbo Hotel account
    >>> holder?

    >>
    >> Corse the cops can get any details they want when criminal activity
    >> like theft is involved.
    >>

    > but pity that most of the time they couldn't be bothered, same as
    > stolen handsets and tracking via IMEI


    Irrelevant to his question.





  3. #18
    Horry
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    Re: Stolen mobile used to buy Premium SMS Habbo Hotel Credits

    On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:17:07 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

    > Horry <[email protected]> wrote
    >> Rod Speed wrote
    >>> DavidBee <[email protected]> wrote

    >
    >>>> I'm writing this on behalf of my 17 year old daughter.

    >
    >>>> Her mobile phone was stolen last month. Someone used it and
    >>>> ran up a bill of over $400.00. When we received the bill we found
    >>>> that the thief made premium SMS calls on the number 19942226
    >>>> which were used to buy credits from the Habbo Hotel. We believe
    >>>> that the person was someone from my daughter's school.

    >
    >>>> We're going to make out a police report and the police will require
    >>>> details of the account. Does anyone know the legal situation and the
    >>>> best way to approach it. There are privacy laws, but as this is a
    >>>> criminal act can the police get details of the Habbo Hotel account holder?

    >
    >>> Corse the cops can get any details they want when criminal activity like theft is involved.

    >
    >> Isn't "Habbo" based overseas? They may have an Australian arm,
    >> but if my memory serves me correctly, they're based in the UK.

    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habbo_Hotel
    >
    >> If that's the case, he may have trouble convincing the cops here in
    >> Australia to arrange for the British authorities to obtain and serve a
    >> subpoena in London -- when the subject-matter of their investigation
    >> is $400 worth of Habbo credit. (I doubt Habbo will cough up their
    >> subscriber's details without some form of legal process.)

    >
    > We'll see...
    >
    > Its unlikely they would be stupid enough to require anything
    > to be served in pomland etc with something so trivial.


    Who's "they"?


    >> My suggestion would be for the OP to fax a copy of the police
    >> report to Habbo's head office, together with a letter explaining the
    >> situation and requesting that the credit be refunded (enclosing a
    >> copy of the phone bill highlighting the fraudulent purchases, etc).

    >
    >> He may well get fobbed off, but it'd be a better shot that expecting
    >> the cops to start an trans-national investigation over $400.

    >
    > You havent established that any 'trans-national investigation' is involved with something so trivial.


    Huh? It doesn't matter how "trivial" an investigation is. If it spans
    more than one country, it's trans-national.





  4. #19
    Rod Speed
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    Re: Stolen mobile used to buy Premium SMS Habbo Hotel Credits

    Horry <[email protected]> wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> Horry <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> Rod Speed wrote
    >>>> DavidBee <[email protected]> wrote


    >>>>> I'm writing this on behalf of my 17 year old daughter.


    >>>>> Her mobile phone was stolen last month. Someone used it and
    >>>>> ran up a bill of over $400.00. When we received the bill we found
    >>>>> that the thief made premium SMS calls on the number 19942226
    >>>>> which were used to buy credits from the Habbo Hotel. We believe
    >>>>> that the person was someone from my daughter's school.


    >>>>> We're going to make out a police report and the police will require details
    >>>>> of the account. Does anyone know the legal situation and the best way to
    >>>>> approach it. There are privacy laws, but as this is a criminal act can the
    >>>>> police get details of the Habbo Hotel account holder?


    >>>> Corse the cops can get any details they want when criminal activity like theft is involved.


    >>> Isn't "Habbo" based overseas? They may have an Australian arm,
    >>> but if my memory serves me correctly, they're based in the UK.


    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habbo_Hotel


    >>> If that's the case, he may have trouble convincing the cops here in
    >>> Australia to arrange for the British authorities to obtain and serve
    >>> a subpoena in London -- when the subject-matter of their investigation
    >>> is $400 worth of Habbo credit. (I doubt Habbo will cough up their
    >>> subscriber's details without some form of legal process.)


    >> We'll see...


    >> Its unlikely they would be stupid enough to require anything
    >> to be served in pomland etc with something so trivial.


    > Who's "they"?


    Habbo.

    >>> My suggestion would be for the OP to fax a copy of the police
    >>> report to Habbo's head office, together with a letter explaining the
    >>> situation and requesting that the credit be refunded (enclosing a
    >>> copy of the phone bill highlighting the fraudulent purchases, etc).


    >>> He may well get fobbed off, but it'd be a better shot that expecting
    >>> the cops to start an trans-national investigation over $400.


    >> You havent established that any 'trans-national investigation'
    >> is involved with something so trivial.


    > Huh? It doesn't matter how "trivial" an investigation is.
    > If it spans more than one country, it's trans-national.


    You havent extablished that Habbo would require anything trans national with something so trivial.





  5. #20
    Michael
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    Re: Stolen mobile used to buy Premium SMS Habbo Hotel Credits


    "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> "DavidBee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news[email protected]...
    >>>
    >>> I'm writing this on behalf of my 17 year old daughter.
    >>>
    >>> Her mobile phone was stolen last month. Someone used it and ran up a
    >>> bill of over $400.00. When we received the bill we found that the thief
    >>> made premium SMS calls on the number 19942226 which were used to buy
    >>> credits from the Habbo Hotel. We believe that the person was someone
    >>> from my daughter's school.
    >>>
    >>> We're going to make out a police report and the police will require
    >>> details of the account. Does anyone know the legal situation and the
    >>> best way to approach it. There are privacy laws, but as this is a
    >>> criminal act can the police get details of the Habbo Hotel account
    >>> holder?

    >>
    >> Just make a police report and the police will do nothing.
    >>
    >> Pay the bill and move on

    >
    > no, involve TISSC and TIO to attempt to avoid full repayment


    under what grounds?
    TISSC dont do Premium SMS
    How is this a TIO matter?
    >
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Cheers,
    >>>
    >>> David
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> DavidBee
    >>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **






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