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  1. #1
    Alan Parkington
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    Apple 3G iPhone War Breaks Out Lawyers Called In

    By Branko Miletic & David Richards | Thursday | 2008-06-12
    An Apple 3G iPhone war has broken out between the world's fastest 3G network
    run by Telstra and Optus who this week won a deal to sell the new Apple
    iPhone. At the core of the argument is the fact that consumers who buy the
    new 3G iPhone will not get the "best of" the new 3G iPhone on the Optus
    network that according to Telstra runs at up to half the speed of the
    Telstra network.

    They also claim that 3G iPhone owners will not be able to take advantage of
    "blisteringly fast 3G speeds when Telstra crank up their network to 42Mbps
    by the end of this year.

    According to a statement from a Telstra spokesperson, 'Just this week the
    Singtel Optus' CEO was claiming a new mobile would operate on its proposed
    3G network but failed to mention it was on the wrong frequency. It's like
    someone claiming they can get cable TV without a cable.'

    This new mobile is the iPhone of course and a number of Telstra
    representatives have mentioned to channelnews that they are not sure how the
    iPhone could even work on the Optus network and that it is directly
    compatible with Telstra's 850MHz NextG network.

    The Optus statement that got up Telstra's nose was from Optus chief
    executive Paul O'Sullivan and included the following: "With Optus, more
    iPhone users can enjoy 3G services as we expand our network to 96 per cent
    of the population by December 2008 and 98 per cent by December 2009".

    'It's important that consumers understand when they are choosing their
    mobiles that some of these new phones simply won't work properly on other
    frequencies like 900?', shot back a Telstra spokesman.

    Moreover, according to Telstra's lawyers: "Telstra is concerned that Optus
    may represent to customers that they can enjoy a range of 3G features and
    services with Optus using a 3G device and that they will be able to access
    those services in more places as Optus expands its network,"

    A lot of new devices are now supporting 850 and 2100 frequencies as many
    carriers around the world follow in Telstras footsteps after the launch of
    the Next G network?, according to a Telstra representative, adding that ?Not
    all 3G networks were created equal.

    "Telstra is the market leader in mobiles and we aim to stay that way, so
    while not commenting on iPhone or our plans specifically, watch this space."

    So it looks like its all getting nasty over in telco land, however, it is
    all grist for the mill for Apple as it gets more publicity for its iPhone
    and at the end of the day, most analysts agree that Telstra will eventually
    sell the product - frequencies not withstanding and whether Optus and
    Vodafone like it or not.




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  2. #2
    Rod Speed
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    Re: Apple 3G iPhone War Breaks Out Lawyers Called In

    Alan Poxington <[email protected]> wrote

    > From
    > http://www.smartofficenews.com.au/Co...ation/X3N2H7X7


    > Apple 3G iPhone War Breaks Out Lawyers Called In


    Well whoopy ****ing do.

    > By Branko Miletic & David Richards | Thursday | 2008-06-12


    > An Apple 3G iPhone war has broken out between the world's fastest 3G network run by Telstra


    Bare faced lie.

    > and Optus who this week won a deal to sell the new Apple iPhone.


    Like it or lump it, Telstra.

    > At the core of the argument is the fact that consumers who buy the new 3G iPhone will not get the "best of" the new 3G
    > iPhone on the Optus network that according to Telstra runs at up to half the speed of the Telstra network.


    Like it or lump it, Telstra.

    > They also claim that 3G iPhone owners will not be able to take advantage of "blisteringly fast 3G speeds when Telstra
    > crank up their network to 42Mbps by the end of this year.


    Aw, poor widdle diddums.

    > According to a statement from a Telstra spokesperson, 'Just this week the Singtel Optus' CEO was claiming a new mobile
    > would operate on its proposed 3G network


    Taint proposed, ****wit.

    > but failed to mention it was on the wrong frequency.


    Corse you clowns never ever do anything like that yourselves, eh ?

    > It's like someone claiming they can get cable TV without a cable.'


    Nope, nothing like. And you can get Pay TV without a cable anyway, ****wit.

    > This new mobile is the iPhone of course and a number of Telstra
    > representatives have mentioned to channelnews that they are not sure how the iPhone could even work on the Optus
    > network and that it is directly compatible with Telstra's 850MHz NextG network.


    Yet it clearly aint with the future higher speed.

    > The Optus statement that got up Telstra's nose was from Optus chief executive Paul O'Sullivan and included the
    > following: "With Optus, more iPhone users can enjoy 3G services as we expand our network to 96 per cent of the
    > population by December 2008 and 98 per cent by December 2009".


    Aw poor widdle diddums telstra...

    > 'It's important that consumers understand when they are choosing their mobiles that some of these new phones simply
    > won't work properly on
    > other frequencies like 900?', shot back a Telstra spokesman.


    Its important that consumers understand that Telstra
    lost the contract to supply the iphone to Optarse.

    > Moreover, according to Telstra's lawyers: "Telstra is concerned that Optus may represent to customers that they can
    > enjoy a range of 3G features and services with Optus using a 3G device and that they will be able to access those
    > services in more places as Optus expands its network,"


    Optarse hasnt done that, ****wit.

    > A lot of new devices are now supporting 850 and 2100 frequencies as many carriers around the world follow in Telstras
    > footsteps


    Bare faced lie, and its got absolutely NOTHING to do with Telstra.

    > after the launch of the Next G network?, according to a Telstra representative, adding that ?Not all 3G networks were
    > created equal.


    Yep, some are duds like Telstra's which many new phones cant use.

    > "Telstra is the market leader in mobiles


    Bare faced lie.

    > and we aim to stay that way,


    It never was, and never ever will be either.

    > so while not commenting on iPhone or our plans specifically, watch this space."


    No thanks.

    > So it looks like its all getting nasty over in telco land,


    Nope, just the usual desperate attempt at spoiling tactics from Telstra.

    > however, it is all grist for the mill for Apple as it gets more publicity for its iPhone and at the end of the day,


    And Optarse in spades.

    > most analysts agree that Telstra will eventually sell the product - frequencies not withstanding and whether Optus and
    > Vodafone like it or not.


    That aint up to Telstra, ****wit.





  3. #3
    Polly the Parrot
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    Re: Apple 3G iPhone War Breaks Out Lawyers Called In

    On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:01:28 GMT "Alan Parkington"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > An Apple 3G iPhone war has broken out between the world's fastest 3G
    > network run by Telstra and Optus who this week won a deal to sell the
    > new Apple iPhone. At the core of the argument is the fact that
    > consumers who buy the new 3G iPhone will not get the "best of" the
    > new 3G iPhone on the Optus network that according to Telstra runs at
    > up to half the speed of the Telstra network.


    So Parky bot, Tel$tra did dip out on selling the iPhone?



  4. #4
    Joe G \(Home\)
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    Re: Apple 3G iPhone War Breaks Out Lawyers Called In

    my understanding is ....

    IPhone uses 2100MHz and 850MHz, where 850MHz is used for longer range
    comms.

    But Voda anf Optus have 2100MHz and 900MHz.....

    Hence use of the IPhone on Voda and Optus in the country areas might be a
    problem.

    Joe





  5. #5
    Rod Speed
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    Re: Apple 3G iPhone War Breaks Out Lawyers Called In

    Joe G (Home) <[email protected]> wrote:

    > my understanding is ....


    > IPhone uses 2100MHz and 850MHz, where 850MHz is used for longer range comms.


    > But Voda anf Optus have 2100MHz and 900MHz.....


    And only do 3G on 900MHz in the non capital city areas.

    > Hence use of the IPhone on Voda and Optus in the country areas might be a problem.


    No might be about it.

    Gota hand it to Telstra, when there is that fundamental advantage for them,
    the useless ****wits blow their feet right off on the iPhone launch in this country.





  6. #6
    Alan Parkington
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    Re: Apple 3G iPhone War Breaks Out Lawyers Called In


    "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Joe G (Home) <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> my understanding is ....

    >
    >> IPhone uses 2100MHz and 850MHz, where 850MHz is used for longer range
    >> comms.

    >
    >> But Voda anf Optus have 2100MHz and 900MHz.....

    >
    > And only do 3G on 900MHz in the non capital city areas.
    >
    >> Hence use of the IPhone on Voda and Optus in the country areas might be
    >> a problem.

    >
    > No might be about it.
    >
    > Gota hand it to Telstra, when there is that fundamental advantage for
    > them,
    > the useless ****wits blow their feet right off on the iPhone launch in
    > this country.
    >


    Mr Trujillo will be making an announcement on the iPhone today.




  7. #7
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Apple 3G iPhone War Breaks Out Lawyers Called In

    Alan Poxington <[email protected]> wrote
    > Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    >> Joe G (Home) <[email protected]> wrote


    >>> my understanding is ....


    >>> IPhone uses 2100MHz and 850MHz, where 850MHz is used for longer range comms.


    >>> But Voda anf Optus have 2100MHz and 900MHz.....


    >> And only do 3G on 900MHz in the non capital city areas.


    >>> Hence use of the IPhone on Voda and Optus in the country areas might be a problem.


    >> No might be about it.


    >> Gota hand it to Telstra, when there is that fundamental advantage for them,
    >> the useless ****wits blow their feet right off on the iPhone launch in this country.


    > Mr Trujillo will be making an announcement on the iPhone today.


    Only a ****wit mex would be that late with that steaming turd.





  8. #8
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Apple 3G iPhone War Breaks Out Lawyers Called In

    Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    > Alan Poxington <[email protected]> wrote
    >> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> Joe G (Home) <[email protected]> wrote


    >>>> my understanding is ....


    >>>> IPhone uses 2100MHz and 850MHz, where 850MHz is used for longer range comms.


    >>>> But Voda anf Optus have 2100MHz and 900MHz.....


    >>> And only do 3G on 900MHz in the non capital city areas.


    >>>> Hence use of the IPhone on Voda and Optus in the country areas might be a problem.


    >>> No might be about it.


    >>> Gota hand it to Telstra, when there is that fundamental advantage for them, the useless ****wits blow their feet
    >>> right off on the iPhone launch in this country.


    >> Mr Trujillo will be making an announcement on the iPhone today.


    > Only a ****wit mex would be that late with that steaming turd.


    Thats it ?

    A Jap would at least have the decency to disembowel itself.

    Dont make a mess of the carpet...





  9. #9
    Polly the Parrot
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    Re: Apple 3G iPhone War Breaks Out Lawyers Called In

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:10:53 GMT "Alan Parkington"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Mr Trujillo will be making an announcement on the iPhone today.


    Don't keep us in the dark, Parky Bot.

    What did Sol the Wog "pronounce"?

    Did you get a hard on when you heard him "pronounce", by any chance?



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