And Who Said that Telstra Won't gouge its customers with the iPhone

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...87-661,00.html

"Plans start at $30 per month with an upfront cost of $279 for the 8GB model and
$399 for the 16GB version."

What are the suggested prices for these phones, again?

Hmmm?

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"Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...87-661,00.html
>
> "Plans start at $30 per month with an upfront cost of $279 for the 8GB
> model and
> $399 for the 16GB version."
>
> What are the suggested prices for these phones, again?
>
> Hmmm?
>
>

All the other telcos have been too gutless to release their prices, so hold
your horses, dickwad..

"Alan Parkington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
>
> "Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...87-661,00.html
>>
>> "Plans start at $30 per month with an upfront cost of $279 for the 8GB
>> model and
>> $399 for the 16GB version."
>>
>> What are the suggested prices for these phones, again?
>>
>> Hmmm?
>>
>>
>
> All the other telcos have been too gutless to release their prices, so
> hold your horses, dickwad..
Nothing to do with comparing to other telcos. He is comparing Telstra's
outrageous prices to the recommended prices announced by Apple Chairman,
Steve Job's.


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"thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Nothing to do with comparing to other telcos. He is comparing Telstra's
> outrageous prices to the recommended prices announced by Apple Chairman,
> Steve Job's.
\
\You obv. haven't seen Rogers' Communications prices for the new iPhone in
Canada. The prices were never guaranteed by Steve Jobs.

You are suffering from what is called Sticker Shock.

"thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Nothing to do with comparing to other telcos. He is comparing Telstra's
> outrageous prices to the recommended prices announced by Apple Chairman,
> Steve Job's.


Let's check the UK shall we..?

> O2 in the UK has released its iPhone 3G pricing.
>
> http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paymonthly
>
> On the 30 pound/stirling/quid plan the handset is 99 pounds. That's
> an 18 month contract.

Telstra are offering it for A$249 (not far from 99 quid) on a $30 plan,
rather than an 30 qud ($A75 plan)

Telstra's deal looks fantastic to me..

Alan Parkington wrote...

> Telstra's deal looks fantastic to me..

Fantastic as in fantasy?

Word is Optus will be offering it on a $49 cap plan. Not sure of the MRO. But
then it's also limited to the 2100 Mhz 3G network, which while it's expanding
and is in most regional centres now it's still lacking in overall coverage
compared to Telstra's NextG network.

In any case, Rod was right. The iPhone is so much hype. Check out my other post
for the gadget killing flaws of the unit. We ended up choosing the N95i (8gb)
from Optus for the missus new phone. Works bloody well too.

Alan Parkington wrote...

> Telstra's deal looks fantastic to me..

http://blogs.smh.com.au/gadgetsonthe...one_party.html

It says in part:

"All plans include free Wi-Fi access at Telstra hotspots and require a 24-month
contract."

What does access to these WiFi hotspots cost now? And how do they bill you? ie.
what mechanism is in place that lets them know who to bill?

And what other telcos provide this service, particularly overseas? My wife's N95
has WiFi and is most keen to test it in LAX, JFK, LGA, LHR and SIN during her
trip later this month.

"Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Alan Parkington wrote...
>
>> Telstra's deal looks fantastic to me..
>
> http://blogs.smh.com.au/gadgetsonthe...one_party.html
>
> It says in part:
>
> "All plans include free Wi-Fi access at Telstra hotspots and require a
> 24-month
> contract."
>
> What does access to these WiFi hotspots cost now? And how do they bill
> you? ie.
> what mechanism is in place that lets them know who to bill?

I access them via iPass (http://www.ipass.com/ ), who then bill my employer.


> And what other telcos provide this service, particularly overseas? My
> wife's N95
> has WiFi and is most keen to test it in LAX, JFK, LGA, LHR and SIN during
> her
> trip later this month.

As above - iPass works just about anywhere in the world. I've used it
throughout Australia/NZ, Asia, the US and Europe. Not sure of the charges
though.

--
Kwyj.

Alan Parkington wrote...

> Let's check the UK shall we..?

Yes, let's...

> > On the 30 pound/stirling/quid plan the handset is 99 pounds. That's
> > an 18 month contract.
>
> Telstra are offering it for A$249 (not far from 99 quid) on a $30 plan,

$99pounds is $206 at the current exchange rate. $43 cheaper on a straight
conversion basis.

> rather than an 30 qud ($A75 plan)

30 pounds is $62AUD.

> Telstra's deal looks fantastic to me..

Does it?

Will Telstra offer this?

"All tariffs include unlimited browsing on your iPhone, unlimited Wi-Fi access,
visual voicemail and reduced roaming rates with our International Traveller
Service and are subject to a minimum term contract of 18 months."

From that same Pommy website.

Telstra has data packs which are expensive no matter which way you look at it.
Certainly, while big businesses probably won't bat an eyelid small enterprises
and residential customers will most certainly shy away from it. And that makes
buying an iPhone a pointless and expensive exercise. Its purpose is life is more
than just a phone. If you don't or can't use it for data delivery then you
might as well stick with something like a Motorola V3 or Nokia Navigator or
whatever.

Anyway, the Telstra guy who chatted to the SMH blogger was keeping mum about the
data side of things. I s'pose we'll have to wait and see what Telstra has to
offer come July 11. Certainly if it offers affordable data plans to iPhone
owners but not to the rest of us there WILL be an uproar, if not exactly a
riotous response, paraphrasing the SMH guy.

"Alan Parkington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Y%[email protected]...
>
> "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Nothing to do with comparing to other telcos. He is comparing Telstra's
>> outrageous prices to the recommended prices announced by Apple Chairman,
>> Steve Job's.
>
>
> Let's check the UK shall we..?
>
>> O2 in the UK has released its iPhone 3G pricing.
>>
>> http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paymonthly
>>
>> On the 30 pound/stirling/quid plan the handset is 99 pounds. That's
>> an 18 month contract.
>
> Telstra are offering it for A$249 (not far from 99 quid) on a $30 plan,
> rather than an 30 qud ($A75 plan)
>
> Telstra's deal looks fantastic to me..

You seem to have misread my post. Let me repeat: Nothing to do with
comparing to other telcos. He is comparing Telstra's
outrageous prices to the recommended prices announced by Apple Chairman,
Steve Job's.


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"thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> You seem to have misread my post. Let me repeat: Nothing to do with
> comparing to other telcos. He is comparing Telstra's
> outrageous prices to the recommended prices announced by Apple Chairman,
> Steve Job's.


And I am saying let's see what the other local telco's offer before shooting
your mouth off..

"Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Alan Parkington wrote...
>
>> All the other telcos have been too gutless to release their prices, so
>> hold
>> your horses, dickwad..
>
> Irrelevant, Parky-impersonator [1].
>
> I'm talking about Telstra here and how it's charging heaps above the so
> called
> RRP of these phones.
>

ok.. let's check AT&T themselves..

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080701/aqtu507a.html?.v=2

AT&T is making it easy for customers to prepare for their iPhone 3G purchase
by posting "Get iReady" tips and frequently asked questions at
http://www.att.com/iphone. The site also will include a link for customers
to check their upgrade eligibility and other wireless account information.

iPhone 3G will be available for $199 for the 8GB model and $299 for the 16GB
model. These prices require two-year contracts and are available to the
following customers:

-- iPhone customers who purchased before July 11
-- Customers activating a new line with AT&T
-- Current AT&T customers who are eligible, at the time of purchase, for
an upgrade discount


Existing AT&T customers who are not currently eligible for an upgrade
discount can purchase iPhone 3G for $399 for the 8GB model or $499 for the
16GB model. Both options require a new two-year service agreement. In the
future, AT&T will offer a no-contract-required option for $599 (8GB) or $699
(16GB).

Current customers may also choose to wait until they become eligible for an
upgrade discount. Eligibility is generally determined by amount of time
remaining on a current contract and payment history.

Kwyjibo wrote...

> I access them via iPass (http://www.ipass.com/ ), who then bill my employer.

Thanks. Will check it out.

Alan Parkington wrote...

> > I'm talking about Telstra here and how it's charging heaps above the so
> > called RRP of these phones.

> ok.. let's check AT&T themselves..

Er, it's "AT&T itself". The company is a single entity, not a plural of
anything...

> Existing AT&T customers who are not currently eligible for an upgrade
> discount can purchase iPhone 3G for $399 for the 8GB model or $499 for the

Hmm, I wonder how many customers ATT will lose when they're sufficiently pissed
off enough when they find this out.

Thing is, making the iPhone sound like it's God's gift to telephony will catch
them up short. HTC or some other mob, Nokia even, will eventually bring out
something that leaps over the iPhone, and for considerably less.

I'm surprised though. American consumers are generally more switched on than say
the likes of us. They're not backwards in coming forward when it comes to
assering their rights, whether or not it's justified.

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:41:38 +1000 Snapper
<[email protected]> wrote:

> And what other telcos provide this service, particularly overseas? My
> wife's N95 has WiFi and is most keen to test it in LAX, JFK, LGA, LHR
> and SIN during her trip later this month.

Good luck finding a free one!