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  1. #16
    biff
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    Originally posted by Thecollector
    You have 30 days buyers remorse to see if you have good service with no obligation.
    For me, when I originally signed with AT&T their TDMA service at my home was adequate, if nothing to rave about. So, the service was OK and I kept it. But in the last few months their TDMA network has degraded considerably. An AT&T salesman at the local mall says that AT&T/Cingular have built or are planning to build new GSM towers around the Pacific Northwest region but I am taking a wait and see attitude.

    Originally posted by Thecollector
    Looks like you didn't do your homework
    This was true in my case as it was my first cell. phone and I naively trusted the salesman (I did visit the store several times but only did minimal web-based research). I will be a fully prepared consumer next time around.


    See More: I hate ATTWS
    Last edited by biff; 03-23-2004 at 10:54 AM.
    "Anything too stupid to be spoken is sung." - - Francois Marie Arouet (Voltaire)




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    It was more of a group comment. Not an attack, just trying to point out to everyone they have 30 days to test it out. It's one of their selling points. Truth is, they all suck, when your in a dead zone
    " The only difference between a rut and a grave is the size of the hole"



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    I didn't take it as an attack at all. Your advice was pertinent to the vast majority of the buying public. I just wanted to share my experiences with AT&T TDMA.
    "Anything too stupid to be spoken is sung." - - Francois Marie Arouet (Voltaire)



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    i hate them too with a passion! my cell doesn't even have a signal at my house



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    bap3sta: I'm curious, where do you live? I'm going to try an AT&T GoPhone (GSM) to see if service is available at my house. Here's a link to my post at the WirelessAdvisor forums, if anyone's interested.
    "Anything too stupid to be spoken is sung." - - Francois Marie Arouet (Voltaire)



  6. #21
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    I agree that the attws lacks reception. I once had a GSM phone 2 years ago and the sales rep said that the reception would increase over a year or two. I decided to switch back to TDMA at that point and now have a GSM phone which I am trying for 30 days. And still the service dissapoints me, seems like nothing has changed!



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    Dear People,
    Please remember that the phone you use on any system has a lot to do with the quality of your reception. AT&T has a history of bad phones. I think anything that says Sony/Ericsson on it is suspect. When I had AT&T, the service reps in the AT&T stores always told me the Nokias had the best reception. I believe they reccomended the 6200. If you think your phone is a loser, buy an unlocked phone on Ebay. Don't forget TDMA deteriorates daily, stay away.

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    Last edited by speedo; 05-03-2004 at 12:10 PM.



  8. #23
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    you guys should check out http://www.wirelessreview.net/stats.jsp

    based on 2000 plus feedbacks, ATT GSM does have the worst reception.



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    A Sounding of a Lone Horn

    Now, I consider myself a sympathetic guy, with a ready ear for them whom suffer at the hands of injustice, however, you people do not sit amongst them. I grant you, attws is, if nothing else, a gang of pirates and maurading thieves. But the sheer, obvious fact is that they make this blatantly obvious in the Terms and Conditions. Read it, and you will see exactly how they screw you. The fault is yours who didn't read the T and C's.
    And, for all you morons who think that agreement is not the same as a contract, hear this: By using the service, even once, you agreed to everything!!!! You agreed to the ETF, you agreed to the reinstatement fees, you agreed to everything...and this is handed down from the halls of contract lawyers. Do you think that your masterl of contract law is superior to the one that the hundreds of Attws lawyers have? RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU PASSED THE BAR EXAMINATION.
    Show me a profession -- any profession -- that isn't haunted by flocks of idiots who perform gross abortions of work, but this is life. Even you, moaning and whining here, are mostly morons in your fields. My grandfather summed it up wisely, from the lips of his grandfather: If you watch where you put your name, and you watch where you put your pecker, most of life's dillemma's will be prevented.

    To sum it all up for you of puny mind and flaccid disposition: Shut up, read your terms and conditions, and quit calling us with your foulness and horrible tempers and piss-poor attitudes, if only for those of us who, unbelievable as it may seem, do not live and breathe to piss you off, but have wives and children and do not remember your harrassments.

    Sincerely (for all you insincere frauds)

    An Ulcerated Attws Receivables Management Representative.



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    Harja Mannuz
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    correction...

    for masterl, read mastery (from a typographical error masterly)



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    Re: A Sounding of a Lone Horn - aka BIG DICK - who knows it!

    I have 7 more days to go with AWS and then I will happily be shod of them. TDMA sucks and so does GSM (at least in Western Washington). Weasely legal tactics aside, it's pretty unfawkingbelieveable that my contract was involuntarily extended by 6 months because I changed my plan at the Lynnwood, Wa. store (I was just trying to save some money). The sales rep. made no mention of the extension and the contract booklet that came with my Nokia 3360 made absolutely no mention that changing plans/promos would result in an unwanted contract extension. So, I'm now supposed to read ALL of the fine print on every stinking little piece of paper that accompanies my bill?? Or, perhaps I should not use the damn phone at all since that apparently obliges me to AWS for, apparently, as long as they see fit.

    I admit that I knew little about cell. phones and provider's tactics when I bought the Nokia but I can guarantee you that I will be a fully informed consumer come June 4. Hell, I even found out the differences between the CDMA2000 (what we have in the U.S.) and WCDMA (what Japan uses, which is true 3rd Generation CDMA) standards/protocols.

    What disappoints me most is the weasely tactics that are employed by EVERY provider to squeeze every last nickel out of the consumer. Colour me dissatisfied with the whole cellular business. It is what it is - - which is, for some, a necessary evil.

    Originally posted by Harja Mannuz

    An Ulcerated Attws Receivables Management Representative.
    I hope you enjoy your ulcer for a very long time.
    Last edited by biff; 05-28-2004 at 06:44 PM.
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    Re: A Sounding of a Lone Horn

    Originally posted by Harja Mannuz
    <snip>
    Do you think that your mastery of contract law is superior to the one that the hundreds of Attws lawyers have?
    ....
    Shut up, read your terms and conditions, and quit calling us with your foulness and horrible tempers and piss-poor attitudes,
    </snip>
    Its just too bad AT&T hides behind their hudreds of lawyers and their "terms and conditions" - this all goes to show how bad AT&T wireless sucks. When a company so rigidly enforces the letter of its petty agreements, rather than focusing on the satisfaction of its customers, its hardly surprising that its customers have "foulness and horrible tempers and piss-poor attitudes".

    Sorry about your ulcer - perhaps it is time for you to leave AT&T just like it's customers are. Time to get a real job?



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    welcome to the club



  14. #29
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    I have a GOPhone and love it..my problem is i moved to an area where AT&T does not exist so im roaming ,i still get very good receptin and my 40 dollars last a long time even when im roaming..i have to agree with the customer servicxe but i love everything else about the service..regular service i've had problems with 3 different companies and got $300 bills every month..this is 100 times better and 've been with them for over a year



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    Back when I had AT&T (6 months ago) reception was completely awful. I dont think I EVER saw 5 bars of reception in my 2 years of use.



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