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    Cyber Akuma
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    I don't really have any expirence with buying a cellphone. I was looking around for a good PDA phone, I didnt really care what provider I chose just as long as its not Verizon.

    I was mainly looking for a PDA phone with the following:

    3G
    Supports WIFI
    Can play MP3 files (A plus if it can use them as ringtones too)
    Can use external storage
    Supports GPS
    Not hard to link with a PC

    This phone seems to support all those and has many more features, and reacing reviews it seems to be a very good one.

    However, it got confusing when searching for prices. They varies from $500 to $150.

    The cheapest deal I found was on Amazon.

    For my area there are two deals I can get, getting the phone for $175 from Wirefly and for $150 from Amazon.

    When I looked up wirefly, I found an incredibly surprising amount of 1/5 reviews, many people complaning about no customer service, lost orders and plain ignoring rebates.

    Not to mention the conditions of the contract didnt seem too friendly:
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    CONDITIONAL $250 Equipment Discount Included: Your price paid includes an Equipment Discount of $250 that has been provided to you in exchange for either activating a new, non-substitute line of service or renewing an existing line of service and your agreement that, for the 181-day period following activation or renewal, you will (1) pay your balance due each month and otherwise maintain your account in good standing, (2) not disconnect this new line of service, (3) not transfer this equipment to another line of service, (4) not transfer or port an existing phone number to this line of service, (5) not change your service rate plan to a service plan with a lower monthly service rate, and (6) not use this line of service to replace an existing line of service. If these conditions are not met, you hereby agree to pay and authorize Wirefly to charge your credit card $250 as reimbursement of this Equipment Discount without need for further approval.
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    However, the Amazon deal seemed to have similar terms:
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    Conditional $250 Equipment Discount Included: Your price paid includes an equipment discount of $250 that has been provided to you in exchange for either activating a new, non-substitute line of service or renewing an existing line of service with Cingular, and your agreement that for the 181-day period following such activation or renewal you will: (1) pay your balance due to Cingular each month and otherwise maintain your account in good standing; (2) not disconnect this Cingular line of service; (3) not transfer this equipment to another Cingular line of service; (4) not change your Cingular service rate plan to a lower monthly service rate--this includes canceling or removing required PDA, BlackBerry, or smartphone features after your product has shipped; (5) not use this line of service to replace an existing account with Cingular. If these conditions are not met, you hereby authorize Amazon.com to charge your credit card $250 as reimbursement of this equipment discount without need for further approval.
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    I was starting to wonder if this may be somehow related, the terms seem surprisingly similar, as well as the price, id hate to get burned on something expensive like this. Has anyone ever had expirence with getting this phone/offer from Amazon, or a similar phone with these same providers/conditions? Can I trust this offer form Amazon? Its obvious I cannot trust the one from wirefly. Is this offer still eligable if I already have a Cingular phone but am on a family plan that is not under my name?

    Also, from those conditions, it almost sounds like you can never disconnect the service, switch, or chose a cheaper plan. This almost sounds unrealistic, usually these contacts have a specific date until you can basically end your service without any fees or disadvantages, but I don't see any date or time limit listed here. Are contracts normally like this or is this some overly-strict contract compared to what most cellphone service contracts are like? I don't see how a lifetime contract with such limiting conditions could be legal.

    If this really is a terrible deal due to either the trustability of the offer or the contract, is there any good place/deal you can recommend? Getting this phone from Cingular themselves, even with a 2 year contract, is $400. That is too steep for me.

    And would this phone basically be ok with any plan I chose? I remember some people commenting that one should not bother with this phone if they do not want to spend at least $110 a month for service, that's just insane.

    And if this phone isnt that good, can you recommend a good one with all the features I am looking for?

    What do you recommend I should do?


    See More: Cingular 8525 (or others if theres a good one) service, prices, and conditions
    Last edited by Cyber Akuma; 03-22-2007 at 07:04 PM.



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    PocketVIP
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    Re: Cingular 8525 (or others if theres a good one) service, prices, and conditions

    I use a 8125 which is the predecessor to the 8525... Ive had it since it's release and love it... A couple of things I dont like about its design is that its 1) A little bulky 2) designed for two-handed operation 3) Dialing isnt great on a touch screen...

    Also, Keep in mind that alot of those prices are based on you signing up for a data plan...
    I believe the cheapest unlimited data cell plan with Cingular in about 79.99 a month...
    Good Luck...
    Last edited by PocketVIP; 03-22-2007 at 07:37 PM.



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    Cyber Akuma
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    Re: Cingular 8525 (or others if theres a good one) service, prices, and conditions

    I was talking to a friend and he was saying that Verizon was coming out with a new model soon that is basically an upgraded verizon xv6700 which will have more features than the Cingular 8525.

    Has anyone heard anything about this? And is Verizon a good service provider? I tended to stay away from them because I heard they modify/lock their phones so they will only work with their online store, not allow you to use your own music/ringtones, change the os with their own, etc but I was told that they did not do this to PDA phones.

    Any comments on this or my other previously asked questions?



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    Maqueswell
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    Re: Cingular 8525 (or others if theres a good one) service, prices, and conditions

    Folks If you work for a large corporation usually they'll have company discounted plans for phones and services for the big cellular providers. I purchased my AT&T 8525 for $199.99. I did have to have a minimum $39.99 voice plan and $35.99 data plan. I kept my voice plan which was 1350 minutes for 66.49 and I opted for the unlimited data plan which included 1500 text, pic, video, and unlimited AT&T to AT&T text, picture and video. I've had the phone for a week now, and it's definitely different than my Razr V3i. Since I've never used a blackberry or palm treo I can't complain about it's size or 2-hand operation, but this phone does everything. Bye Bye Mr. PDA, and Bye, Bye to Mr. MP3 player, this one does it all, and so far does it well. If anyone wants more info, please ask

    Mad Max out
    Mad Max



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