The reason why Oxford's wacky predictions won't happen

"Ness Net" <[email protected]> wrote:

> This announcement will be a good reason why Oxford's fanatical fanboy
> bull**** won't happen (iPhone taking over the entire world)

and where did i ever proclaim the iphone would take over the world?
nope, never happened. sure, the iphone will get around 30-40% of the
cell market within 8 years, everyone agrees with that.

so i'll proclaim that since the iPod got 72% within 6 years, the iPhone
should easily get 30-40% of the cell market within 8 years. If i'm a bit
low on that estimate, i'm sorry.

> Google will partner with all other manufacturer's and eventually CRUSH the
> iPhone.

Ah, but Google just announced they aren't going to produce a PHONE, they
are only going to do the software, so by default they have given up on
the cell market. Nobody is going to put Google Software on a phone.
That's just ridiculous.

Google (Eric) realized they couldn't compete against the iPhone in
software or hardware, so they admitted defeat today.

Eric sits on Apple's Board, and was shown the way by Steve.

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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:46:11 -0700, Oxford wrote:

> and where did i ever proclaim the iphone would take over the world?
> nope, never happened. sure, the iphone will get around 30-40% of the
> cell market within 8 years, everyone agrees with that.

Everyone?? Not me.

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Oxford wrote:
> and where did i ever proclaim the iphone would take over the world?
> nope, never happened. sure, the iphone will get around 30-40% of the
> cell market within 8 years, everyone agrees with that.

Let's make a bet.

If iPhone has at least 30% of the world mobile phone market by 2015, then
I will buy you two new iPhones of whatever the current model is.

If iPhone has less than 30% of the world mobile phone market, then you
turn over your iPhone to me, I smash it with a hammer, and then you will
eat it. And if you try to weasel out by not owning an iPhone at the time,
then I will donate a Newton MP100 that to be smashed with a hammer and for
you subsequently to eat.

You will need to supply me with your correct name, address, and phone
number; and keep me informed of all subsequent changes of address and
phone number to ensure fufillment of the wager.

Oh, and I'll be nice and supply some soy sauce to go with your meal.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
[email protected]:

> the iphone will get around 30-40% of the
> cell market within 8 years, everyone agrees with that.
>
>

They do? Would everyone who thinks this hobbled up PoS is gonna
be 40% of the cellphone market in 8 years raise their hands?

(crickets chirping, occasional hoot owl way off in the
distance...)

I see.

Larry
--
I'll make you one.....

8 years from now we'll all be looking back with amusement at how
we plodded along at 100, 300, 700 kbps on a ****ty SELLphone link
from our multimegabit WiMax 4.0 internet tablets sitting in a
nice mall or park talking over the tablet's color VoiP (video-
over-internet-protocol)....not clicking away at our touchscreens
hoping to touch the right tiny pad so it'll type right.

Wanna bet?

In article
<[email protected]>,
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> and where did i ever proclaim the iphone would take over the world?

In many predictions, you have stated that iPhone was the future of the
entire industry, the only influential phone of recent times, the way of
all networking, etc. You read them when you post, don't you?

> nope, never happened. sure, the iphone will get around 30-40% of the
> cell market within 8 years, everyone agrees with that.
No, sir. I've seen no one make any such prediction. Can you point to
even _one_ such prediction?
Can you also show that everyone in the industry agrees with this
nonsense?

Mark Crispin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Oxford wrote:
> > and where did i ever proclaim the iphone would take over the world?
> > nope, never happened. sure, the iphone will get around 30-40% of the
> > cell market within 8 years, everyone agrees with that.
>
> Let's make a bet.
>
> If iPhone has at least 30% of the world mobile phone market by 2015, then
> I will buy you two new iPhones of whatever the current model is.

sure, seems like a fair enough bet. i'll want just 2 of the middle level
models, probably the $149, terabyte version (approx)

> If iPhone has less than 30% of the world mobile phone market, then you
> turn over your iPhone to me, I smash it with a hammer, and then you will
> eat it. And if you try to weasel out by not owning an iPhone at the time,
> then I will donate a Newton MP100 that to be smashed with a hammer and for
> you subsequently to eat.

sure, except for the eating part the newton isn't related to the
iphone by the way, the former was built by a non-techy, pepsi guy
(sculley), while the iphone was built by the best minds in cell the
industry.

> You will need to supply me with your correct name, address, and phone
> number; and keep me informed of all subsequent changes of address and
> phone number to ensure fufillment of the wager.

sure, i'll track you down in 8ish years and you can send them to my po
box.

> Oh, and I'll be nice and supply some soy sauce to go with your meal.

no need, you have no idea what is about to happen with the iphone. it's
*****ed... massive, m a r k s h a r e.

it's well on track to be more popular than even the ipod, and last time
i checked it had 72% m a r k s h a r e only after 6 years of being on
the market.

30% will be easy.

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Oxford wrote:
> sure, except for the eating part

No. You must eat it. I will video-record your meal and post it on the
Internet as a humilation of an Apple fanboy.

Remember, if you don't deliver your iPhone for smashing/eating, you will
have to eat a Newton MP100. And there's a lot more to eat on a Newton.

You will not be allowed to worm out of your meal.

> sure, i'll track you down in 8ish years and you can send them to my po
> box.

No. You give me your correct name, address, and phone number now, and you
supply all updates.

You will not be allowed to disappear without fufilling your wager.

Bon appetit.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Mark Crispin <[email protected]> wrote:

> > sure, except for the eating part
>
> No. You must eat it.

so in sum, you are quite scared that the iphone will indeed hit 30%
share within the next 8 years.

> I will video-record your meal and post it on the
> Internet as a humilation of an Apple fanboy.

you are clearly terrified of the iphone and its impact on the cell
industry.

so it's fun to watch you squirm.

> Remember, if you don't deliver your iPhone for smashing/eating, you will
> have to eat a Newton MP100. And there's a lot more to eat on a Newton.
>
> You will not be allowed to worm out of your meal.

being irrational again? or are you terrified of the iphone, or both?

> > sure, i'll track you down in 8ish years and you can send them to my po
> > box.
>
> No. You give me your correct name, address, and phone number now, and you
> supply all updates.

hehe, i won't divulge my address info until it is time for you to pay
up. apple is going to wipe you out with this agreement, the writing is
already on the wall.

i know your history, so i'll be able to collect in 2015, or petition for
your ouster from the technological backwaters called "washington.edu".

> You will not be allowed to disappear without fufilling your wager.

my wager is solid, the cell industry has never had a major competitor of
the likes o apple enter this field. remember IBM? remember Univac?
remember Burroughs, remember Control Data? They are the Nokia, MOT,
Samsung, LG of this era.

http://en.wikipedia.org/widi/BUNCH

They were ALL wiped out by the Apple ][.

The iPhone does the same exact thing to the cell industry. There is
nothing you can do about it, except setup an appointment with SJ and
prove your true worth with IMAP. You'll fail since he can smell a fake a
mile away. But try and email him anyway, [email protected], see if you are
worthy. If not, the iPhone wins and Nokia and the rest become the seven
dwarfs to Apple and the iPhone.

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> no need, you have no idea what is about to happen with the iphone. it's
> *****ed... massive, m a r k s h a r e.

Markshare? Oh, you mean market share. You may want to try using proper
English, as not using proper English makes you sound even dumber than you
normally sound.

> it's well on track to be more popular than even the ipod, and last time
> i checked it had 72% m a r k s h a r e only after 6 years of being on
> the market.

Different type of product, different market conditions.


--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com

At 05 Nov 2007 13:46:11 -0700 Oxford wrote:

> and where did i ever proclaim the iphone would take over the world?
> nope, never happened. sure, the iphone will get around 30-40% of the
> cell market within 8 years, everyone agrees with that.


You've "predicted" that the iPhone's success will destroy Nokia,
Motorola, et al, and that shortly all other phones will "work like
iPhones."

While that isn't "taking over the world" it's pretty darn close!

> so i'll proclaim that since the iPod got 72% within 6 years, the iPhone
> should easily get 30-40% of the cell market within 8 years.

You've already predicted it'll drive all other cellphone manufacturers
out of business in a "few years"- so who'll be left to build the other 60%
of the market? Even your ridiculous overblown predictions are
backpedals!


> Ah, but Google just announced they aren't going to produce a PHONE,

You didn't read it, did you? They didn't rule out a future "gPhone"
either.

> they
> are only going to do the software, so by default they have given up on
> the cell market.

Companies like Microsoft or Google do not build a single PC (or phone),
but they've managed to built a nice little businesses supplying software
or services for those markets. I doubt not immediately producing (or
OEM'ing) a phone will impact Google's foray into the cellphone market...

> Nobody is going to put Google Software on a phone.
> That's just ridiculous.

Hang around cellphone forums sometime (um, er, then again, DON'T! We get
enough of your crap here!) and you'd see amongst the most popular
cellphone java apps downloaded are Google Maps, and the GMail client.
There are MILLIONS of cellphone users already using Google-produced
software on their phones, including the 1.4 million iPhone owners using
the special, inferior, crippled (no GPS support) version of Google Maps
commissioned for iPhone.

Try to keep up, Oxy...

On Nov 6, 2:48 pm, Bob Campbell <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/widi/BUNCH
>
> > They were ALL wiped out by the Apple ][.
>
> I see you are spouting nonsense again.
>
> First of all, the above URL points to nothing.
>
> Second, The Apple 2 had no effect on the BUNCH. They were IBMs
> mainframe competitors, not IBM PC competitors.

That group use to be known of as IBM and the Seven Dwarfs. :-)

> Third, since the IBM PC and clones killed the Apple 2 series, you have
> no point whatsoever. Again.

Why are people still using Blackberries? Oxford says the iPhone
killed the Blackberry within 40 days of its launch. Seeing how there
are at least 8 million Blackberry users, and only one million iPhones,
there must be a lot of sharing going on...

> But then, that is not surprising.
>
> Bob Campbell

Oxford, you need to see a mental health professional. Your message below
demonstrates projection bias (also called "Freudian Projection"). This is
a symptom of severe personality disorder.

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Oxford wrote:

> Mark Crispin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> sure, except for the eating part
>>
>> No. You must eat it.
>
> so in sum, you are quite scared that the iphone will indeed hit 30%
> share within the next 8 years.
>
>> I will video-record your meal and post it on the
>> Internet as a humilation of an Apple fanboy.
>
> you are clearly terrified of the iphone and its impact on the cell
> industry.
>
> so it's fun to watch you squirm.
>
>> Remember, if you don't deliver your iPhone for smashing/eating, you will
>> have to eat a Newton MP100. And there's a lot more to eat on a Newton.
>>
>> You will not be allowed to worm out of your meal.
>
> being irrational again? or are you terrified of the iphone, or both?
>
>>> sure, i'll track you down in 8ish years and you can send them to my po
>>> box.
>>
>> No. You give me your correct name, address, and phone number now, and you
>> supply all updates.
>
> hehe, i won't divulge my address info until it is time for you to pay
> up. apple is going to wipe you out with this agreement, the writing is
> already on the wall.
>
> i know your history, so i'll be able to collect in 2015, or petition for
> your ouster from the technological backwaters called "washington.edu".
>
>> You will not be allowed to disappear without fufilling your wager.
>
> my wager is solid, the cell industry has never had a major competitor of
> the likes o apple enter this field. remember IBM? remember Univac?
> remember Burroughs, remember Control Data? They are the Nokia, MOT,
> Samsung, LG of this era.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/widi/BUNCH
>
> They were ALL wiped out by the Apple ][.
>
> The iPhone does the same exact thing to the cell industry. There is
> nothing you can do about it, except setup an appointment with SJ and
> prove your true worth with IMAP. You'll fail since he can smell a fake a
> mile away. But try and email him anyway, [email protected], see if you are
> worthy. If not, the iPhone wins and Nokia and the rest become the seven
> dwarfs to Apple and the iPhone.
>
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>

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Bob Campbell <[email protected]> wrote in news:bob-1939C8.17315906112007
@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net:

> If anything "kills the BlackBerry", rest assured it will NOT be
the
> iPhone!
>
>

What will kill Blackberry and iPhone is WiMax.

"Fasten your seat belt, close your tray table and make sure your
seat is in the full upright position for takeoff, please."

Larry
--
Remember the Maxell guy in front of his speaker, hanging on to the
chair for dear life?....his hair all blowed back?..(c;

Mark Crispin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oxford, you need to see a mental health professional. Your message below
> demonstrates projection bias (also called "Freudian Projection"). This is
> a symptom of severe personality disorder.

Mark I'm clearly more rational than you. I'll contact you in 2015 to
collect my winnings.

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In article <[email protected]>,
Bob Campbell <[email protected]> wrote:

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BUNCH
> >
> > They were ALL wiped out by the Apple ][.
>
> I see you are spouting nonsense again.

Where?

> First of all, the above URL points to nothing.

Fixed.

> Second, The Apple 2 had no effect on the BUNCH. They were IBMs
> mainframe competitors, not IBM PC competitors.

The Apple ][ brought about the demise of the mainframe & mini. Thats a
raw fact. Apple is the most disruptive company of our lifetime, they
crush entire markets with their disrespect for the status quo.

> Third, since the IBM PC and clones killed the Apple 2 series, you have
> no point whatsoever. Again.

Actually the Apple // runs to this day, and was sold up until 1993, not
bad for a 1Mhz machine

> But then, that is not surprising.

Yes, I have a much better command over the rise and fall of all
platforms, someday you catch up to my level of understanding.

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