Yeah, that's what I am kinda thinking now to. Dropped the internal memory from 128 to 40 also. The news bot just posted some more info on it, and it's looking worse and worse.

It's either the 815 or stick with the 8000.......or, now that Verizon and Radio Shack have parted ways, see what comes into our store here and switch providers.

Boss are the independently owned Radio Shacks also changing over to Cingular or can they keep selling Verizon unlike the Corporate stores?

By deletin everything I could without losing functions or icons. Did you get rid of all of the yahoo emotions, mms templates, etc, etc?

yea, i got rid of all ringtones, pics, mms templates, i didnt delete any skins, i replaced 2 of them (scarlet and silver) and i didnt touch the moto one or else i would have lost all the icons and things, so maybe thats why im close yo your number, i heard someone had a little over 11mb of memory on theirs, so i might just have to delete those 2 skins i have, i prefer to have more ringtones instead i guess..haha!

I deleted all skins, except moto, and related files. Don't forget they have sounds, pics and files in the root folder. I also deleted all themes and all empty folders using p2kcommander.

well, i replaced some of those, you know the custom animations and sounds on start up and shut down, so i probably wouldn't touch those, i bet if i delete the skins it would free up at least 500kb, which should put me at 10.2 mb, so maybe i'll do that, although im thinkin i might just delete one skin, cuz i like my other one. I wish i could delete the moto one, i hate that!