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  • 03-02-2008, 05:26 PM
    Kurt
    In article <***[email protected]>,
    News <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Kurt wrote:
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > News <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>Kurt wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>In article <[email protected]>,
    > >>> News <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>Kurt wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    > >>>>>The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>>Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    > >>>>>>news:[email protected]:
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    > >>>>>>>The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>Todd Allcock <[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    > >>>>>>>>following in news:[email protected]:
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>At 26 Feb 2008 18:04:56 -0600 The Bob wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>"In terms of subjective preference"
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>Enough said.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>To be fair to theiPhone, I don't think anyone faults it's ease of
    > >>>>>>>>>use, or UI.
    > >>>>>>>>>It's just a lack of included features that makes it something I
    > >>>>>>>>>wouldn't
    > >>>>>>>>>carry.
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>I agree- I don't fault ease of use, but as you say below that hasn't
    > >>>>>>>>really been an issue for a while now. Basicaaly, it has a glitzy
    > >>>>>>>>interface that offers the ease of use found on other phones.
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>What other phone with all its features, is as easy and intuitive as
    > >>>>>>>the iPhone?
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>Any phone I've used or tested in the last two years would satisy that
    > >>>>>>statement. Amd amy of those phones had just as many, if not more,
    > >>>>>>practical features than the iPhone.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>Name one. Like to see it.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>iPaq hw6515/6715/6945
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>$750 and the same old interface. Does have GPS.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>$319 from HP direct. Hire a better buying service.
    > >>
    > >>

    > > Go for it. :-)

    >
    >
    > Already got a bunch and they are bulletproof. No need...


    Buy more.

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  • 03-01-2008, 10:29 PM
    Tinman
    The Bob wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Any phone that requires you to add basic functioanlity, while still
    >>> lacking others completely, is a dinosaur. I don't care what the
    >>> interface looks like.

    >>
    >> Sure you don't. You sure care enough to post incessantly about a
    >> product you, supposedly, don't care about. OK. <chuckle>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Or I could just post about nothing at all, like you. That would make
    > me productive, wouldn't it?


    If that was some kind of flame I gotta tell ya', I ain't feelin' it.


    --
    Mike


  • 03-01-2008, 03:55 PM
    Larry
    4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:1374716c-670e-4740-bc31-
    [email protected]:

    > My iPhone now has voice dialing and vocie command. That is what is so
    > neat about this is that you can add or create missing OTB features
    > with the iPhone which is a powerful waffer thin computer with a great
    > screen.
    >
    >


    From the Bluetooth headset running handsfree and A2DP simultaneously like
    my Motorola Z6m?

    We'll now have a moment of silence for the iPhoners who don't have it....

    Ok, now we can continue.....to laugh.

    MotoROKR Z6m and S9 with a 2GB microSD full of MP3s....FAR better than
    iAnything for music. S9 is the finest headset I own. Beautiful piece of
    engineering whos soft rubber makes no mechanical noise, at all, when you
    move your head...

  • 03-01-2008, 03:01 PM
    The Bob
    "Tinman" <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:[email protected]:

    > The Bob wrote:
    >>
    >> Any phone that requires you to add basic functioanlity, while still
    >> lacking others completely, is a dinosaur. I don't care what the
    >> interface looks like.

    >
    > Sure you don't. You sure care enough to post incessantly about a product
    > you, supposedly, don't care about. OK. <chuckle>
    >
    >
    >


    Or I could just post about nothing at all, like you. That would make me
    productive, wouldn't it?
  • 03-01-2008, 01:48 PM
    Tinman
    The Bob wrote:
    >
    > Any phone that requires you to add basic functioanlity, while still
    > lacking others completely, is a dinosaur. I don't care what the
    > interface looks like.


    Sure you don't. You sure care enough to post incessantly about a product
    you, supposedly, don't care about. OK. <chuckle>



    --
    Mike


  • 03-01-2008, 01:43 PM
    The Bob
    4phun <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:1374716c-670e-4740-bc31-145d62d4f03c@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

    > On Mar 1, 9:52*am, The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> 4phun <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following
    >> innews:dccb2

    > [email protected]:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> > On Feb 28, 7:52*pm, The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following
    >> >> innews:lab
    >> > [email protected]:

    >>
    >> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    >> >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>
    >> >> >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following
    >> >> >> in
    >> >> >>news:[email protected]:

    >>
    >> >> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    >> >> >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>
    >> >> >> >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    >> >> >> >> following in
    >> >> >> >>news:[email protected]:

    >>
    >> >> >> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    >> >> >> >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>
    >> >> >> >> >> Todd Allcock <[email protected]> amazed us all
    >> >> >> >> >> with the following innews:[email protected]:

    >>
    >> >> >> >> >> > At 26 Feb 2008 18:04:56 -0600 The Bob wrote:

    >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> > "In terms of subjective preference"

    >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> Enough said.

    >>
    >> >> >> >> >> > To be fair to theiPhone, I don't think anyone faults
    >> >> >> >> >> > it's ease of use, or UI.
    >> >> >> >> >> > *It's just a lack of included features that makes it
    >> >> >> >> >> > *something I wouldn't
    >> >> >> >> >> > carry.

    >>
    >> >> >> >> >> I agree- I don't fault ease of use, but as you say below
    >> >> >> >> >> that hasn't really been an issue for a while now.
    >> >> >> >> >> *Basicaaly, it has

    >>
    >> >> >> >> >> a glitzy interface that offers the ease of use found on
    >> >> >> >> >> other phones.

    >>
    >> >> >> >> > What other phone with all its features, is as easy and
    >> >> >> >> > intuitive as the iPhone?

    >>
    >> >> >> >> Any phone I've used or tested in the last two years would
    >> >> >> >> satisy that statement. *Amd amy of those phones had just as
    >> >> >> >> many, if not more, practical features than the iPhone.

    >>
    >> >> >> > Name one. Like to see it.

    >>
    >> >> >> Samsung SPH-620
    >> >> >> Motorola Razr V3
    >> >> >> Blackberry Pearl
    >> >> >> Samsung Blackjack II
    >> >> >> HTC Touch
    >> >> >> Motorola Z6tv

    >>
    >> >> >> Want more?

    >>
    >> >> > Yes the ones that are easier to use and more intuitive than the
    >> >> > iPhone. These are good if you are a tech geek. Most have
    >> >> > features that take a while for most people to figure out.

    >>
    >> >> The SPH-620 is used by my wife, who's "tech geek" experience would
    >> >> consist of being able to turn on and log in to our home computer.

    >>
    >> >> The Samsung Blackjack II is used by my 14 year-old daughter who's
    >> >> interest in boys greatly outweighs her desire to learn about
    >> >> technology.

    >>
    >> >> The Razr is currently being used by my 11 year old son. *It was a
    >> >> hand- me-down form me, so he learned how to use it without the
    >> >> benefit of a user's manual.

    >>
    >> >> So, your "tech geek" label doesn't apply.- Hide quoted text -

    >>
    >> >> - Show quoted text -

    >>
    >> > I laugh at this.

    >>
    >> > I can sit across from people who have these devices and show them a
    >> > neat feature of the iPhone, they will say they think their phone
    >> > does that too and they will play with it for several minutes and
    >> > then give up. They can not remember how!

    >>
    >> > Those other phones are user friendly - NOT.

    >>
    >> > LOL

    >>
    >> Sure they are. *They have voice dialing, SMS, high speed internet....
    >> A bunch of easy to use features that the iPhone can only dream about
    >> at this point.
    >>
    >> And in some cases, the interface is much more intuitive than the
    >> iPhone.-

    > Hide quoted text -
    >>
    >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > My iPhone now has voice dialing and vocie command. That is what is so
    > neat about this is that you can add or create missing OTB features
    > with the iPhone which is a powerful waffer thin computer with a great
    > screen.
    >
    >
    > There will be a moment of silence now for those who don't have one.
    >
    > Ok now we can continue.
    >
    >


    The moment of silence was very appropriate. The sound of the champagne
    cork popping to celebrate the fact that I don't have one of those old
    technology iPhones was sweet.

    Any phone that requires you to add basic functioanlity, while still
    lacking others completely, is a dinosaur. I don't care what the
    interface looks like.
  • 03-01-2008, 12:33 PM
    News


    Kurt wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > News <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Kurt wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>> News <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Kurt wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>>>The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    >>>>>>news:[email protected]:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>>>>>The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Todd Allcock <[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    >>>>>>>>following in news:[email protected]:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>At 26 Feb 2008 18:04:56 -0600 The Bob wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>"In terms of subjective preference"
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>Enough said.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>To be fair to theiPhone, I don't think anyone faults it's ease of
    >>>>>>>>>use, or UI.
    >>>>>>>>>It's just a lack of included features that makes it something I
    >>>>>>>>>wouldn't
    >>>>>>>>>carry.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>I agree- I don't fault ease of use, but as you say below that hasn't
    >>>>>>>>really been an issue for a while now. Basicaaly, it has a glitzy
    >>>>>>>>interface that offers the ease of use found on other phones.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>What other phone with all its features, is as easy and intuitive as
    >>>>>>>the iPhone?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Any phone I've used or tested in the last two years would satisy that
    >>>>>>statement. Amd amy of those phones had just as many, if not more,
    >>>>>>practical features than the iPhone.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Name one. Like to see it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>iPaq hw6515/6715/6945
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>$750 and the same old interface. Does have GPS.

    >>
    >>
    >>$319 from HP direct. Hire a better buying service.
    >>
    >>

    > Go for it. :-)



    Already got a bunch and they are bulletproof. No need...
  • 03-01-2008, 12:10 PM
    4phun
    On Mar 1, 9:52*am, The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    > 4phun <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following innews:[email protected]:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Feb 28, 7:52*pm, The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following
    > >> innews:lab

    > > [email protected]:

    >
    > >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    > >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > >> >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    > >> >>news:[email protected]:

    >
    > >> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    > >> >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > >> >> >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following
    > >> >> >> in
    > >> >> >>news:[email protected]:

    >
    > >> >> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    > >> >> >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > >> >> >> >> Todd Allcock <[email protected]> amazed us all
    > >> >> >> >> with the following innews:[email protected]:

    >
    > >> >> >> >> > At 26 Feb 2008 18:04:56 -0600 The Bob wrote:

    >
    > >> >> >> >> >> > "In terms of subjective preference"

    >
    > >> >> >> >> >> Enough said.

    >
    > >> >> >> >> > To be fair to theiPhone, I don't think anyone faults it's
    > >> >> >> >> > ease of use, or UI.
    > >> >> >> >> > *It's just a lack of included features that makes it
    > >> >> >> >> > *something I wouldn't
    > >> >> >> >> > carry.

    >
    > >> >> >> >> I agree- I don't fault ease of use, but as you say below
    > >> >> >> >> that hasn't really been an issue for a while now.
    > >> >> >> >> *Basicaaly, it has

    >
    > >> >> >> >> a glitzy interface that offers the ease of use found on
    > >> >> >> >> other phones.

    >
    > >> >> >> > What other phone with all its features, is as easy and
    > >> >> >> > intuitive as the iPhone?

    >
    > >> >> >> Any phone I've used or tested in the last two years would
    > >> >> >> satisy that statement. *Amd amy of those phones had just as
    > >> >> >> many, if not more, practical features than the iPhone.

    >
    > >> >> > Name one. Like to see it.

    >
    > >> >> Samsung SPH-620
    > >> >> Motorola Razr V3
    > >> >> Blackberry Pearl
    > >> >> Samsung Blackjack II
    > >> >> HTC Touch
    > >> >> Motorola Z6tv

    >
    > >> >> Want more?

    >
    > >> > Yes the ones that are easier to use and more intuitive than the
    > >> > iPhone. These are good if you are a tech geek. Most have features
    > >> > that take a while for most people to figure out.

    >
    > >> The SPH-620 is used by my wife, who's "tech geek" experience would
    > >> consist of being able to turn on and log in to our home computer.

    >
    > >> The Samsung Blackjack II is used by my 14 year-old daughter who's
    > >> interest in boys greatly outweighs her desire to learn about
    > >> technology.

    >
    > >> The Razr is currently being used by my 11 year old son. *It was a
    > >> hand- me-down form me, so he learned how to use it without the
    > >> benefit of a user's manual.

    >
    > >> So, your "tech geek" label doesn't apply.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > I laugh at this.

    >
    > > I can sit across from people who have these devices and show them a
    > > neat feature of the iPhone, they will say they think their phone does
    > > that too and they will play with it for several minutes and then give
    > > up. They can not remember how!

    >
    > > Those other phones are user friendly - NOT.

    >
    > > LOL

    >
    > Sure they are. *They have voice dialing, SMS, high speed internet.... A
    > bunch of easy to use features that the iPhone can only dream about at
    > this point.
    >
    > And in some cases, the interface is much more intuitive than the iPhone.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    My iPhone now has voice dialing and vocie command. That is what is so
    neat about this is that you can add or create missing OTB features
    with the iPhone which is a powerful waffer thin computer with a great
    screen.


    There will be a moment of silence now for those who don't have one.

    Ok now we can continue.

  • 03-01-2008, 11:54 AM
    Kurt
    In article <[email protected]>,
    News <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Kurt wrote:
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > News <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>Kurt wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>In article <[email protected]>,
    > >>> The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    > >>>>news:[email protected]:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    > >>>>>The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>>Todd Allcock <[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    > >>>>>>following in news:[email protected]:
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>At 26 Feb 2008 18:04:56 -0600 The Bob wrote:
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>"In terms of subjective preference"
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>Enough said.
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>To be fair to theiPhone, I don't think anyone faults it's ease of
    > >>>>>>>use, or UI.
    > >>>>>>>It's just a lack of included features that makes it something I
    > >>>>>>>wouldn't
    > >>>>>>>carry.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>I agree- I don't fault ease of use, but as you say below that hasn't
    > >>>>>>really been an issue for a while now. Basicaaly, it has a glitzy
    > >>>>>>interface that offers the ease of use found on other phones.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>What other phone with all its features, is as easy and intuitive as
    > >>>>>the iPhone?
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Any phone I've used or tested in the last two years would satisy that
    > >>>>statement. Amd amy of those phones had just as many, if not more,
    > >>>>practical features than the iPhone.
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>Name one. Like to see it.
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>iPaq hw6515/6715/6945

    > >
    > >
    > > $750 and the same old interface. Does have GPS.

    >
    >
    > $319 from HP direct. Hire a better buying service.
    >
    > >

    Go for it. :-)

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  • 03-01-2008, 08:52 AM
    The Bob
    4phun <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:[email protected]:

    > On Feb 28, 7:52*pm, The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following
    >> innews:lab

    > [email protected]:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>
    >> >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    >> >>news:[email protected]:

    >>
    >> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    >> >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>
    >> >> >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following
    >> >> >> in
    >> >> >>news:[email protected]:

    >>
    >> >> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    >> >> >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>
    >> >> >> >> Todd Allcock <[email protected]> amazed us all
    >> >> >> >> with the following innews:[email protected]:

    >>
    >> >> >> >> > At 26 Feb 2008 18:04:56 -0600 The Bob wrote:

    >>
    >> >> >> >> >> > "In terms of subjective preference"

    >>
    >> >> >> >> >> Enough said.

    >>
    >> >> >> >> > To be fair to theiPhone, I don't think anyone faults it's
    >> >> >> >> > ease of use, or UI.
    >> >> >> >> > *It's just a lack of included features that makes it
    >> >> >> >> > *something I wouldn't
    >> >> >> >> > carry.

    >>
    >> >> >> >> I agree- I don't fault ease of use, but as you say below
    >> >> >> >> that hasn't really been an issue for a while now.
    >> >> >> >> *Basicaaly, it has

    >
    >> >> >> >> a glitzy interface that offers the ease of use found on
    >> >> >> >> other phones.

    >>
    >> >> >> > What other phone with all its features, is as easy and
    >> >> >> > intuitive as the iPhone?

    >>
    >> >> >> Any phone I've used or tested in the last two years would
    >> >> >> satisy that statement. *Amd amy of those phones had just as
    >> >> >> many, if not more, practical features than the iPhone.

    >>
    >> >> > Name one. Like to see it.

    >>
    >> >> Samsung SPH-620
    >> >> Motorola Razr V3
    >> >> Blackberry Pearl
    >> >> Samsung Blackjack II
    >> >> HTC Touch
    >> >> Motorola Z6tv

    >>
    >> >> Want more?

    >>
    >> > Yes the ones that are easier to use and more intuitive than the
    >> > iPhone. These are good if you are a tech geek. Most have features
    >> > that take a while for most people to figure out.

    >>
    >> The SPH-620 is used by my wife, who's "tech geek" experience would
    >> consist of being able to turn on and log in to our home computer.
    >>
    >> The Samsung Blackjack II is used by my 14 year-old daughter who's
    >> interest in boys greatly outweighs her desire to learn about
    >> technology.
    >>
    >> The Razr is currently being used by my 11 year old son. *It was a
    >> hand- me-down form me, so he learned how to use it without the
    >> benefit of a user's manual.
    >>
    >> So, your "tech geek" label doesn't apply.- Hide quoted text -
    >>
    >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > I laugh at this.
    >
    > I can sit across from people who have these devices and show them a
    > neat feature of the iPhone, they will say they think their phone does
    > that too and they will play with it for several minutes and then give
    > up. They can not remember how!
    >
    > Those other phones are user friendly - NOT.
    >
    > LOL
    >


    Sure they are. They have voice dialing, SMS, high speed internet.... A
    bunch of easy to use features that the iPhone can only dream about at
    this point.

    And in some cases, the interface is much more intuitive than the iPhone.
  • 03-01-2008, 02:51 AM
    4phun
    On Feb 28, 7:52*pm, The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following innews:[email protected]:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    > >>news:[email protected]:

    >
    > >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    > >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > >> >> Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    > >> >>news:[email protected]:

    >
    > >> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    > >> >> > *The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > >> >> >> Todd Allcock <[email protected]> amazed us all with
    > >> >> >> the following innews:[email protected]:

    >
    > >> >> >> > At 26 Feb 2008 18:04:56 -0600 The Bob wrote:

    >
    > >> >> >> >> > "In terms of subjective preference"

    >
    > >> >> >> >> Enough said.

    >
    > >> >> >> > To be fair to theiPhone, I don't think anyone faults it's
    > >> >> >> > ease of use, or UI.
    > >> >> >> > *It's just a lack of included features that makes it
    > >> >> >> > *something I wouldn't
    > >> >> >> > carry.

    >
    > >> >> >> I agree- I don't fault ease of use, but as you say below that
    > >> >> >> hasn't really been an issue for a while now. *Basicaaly, it has
    > >> >> >> a glitzy interface that offers the ease of use found on other
    > >> >> >> phones.

    >
    > >> >> > What other phone with all its features, is as easy and intuitive
    > >> >> > as the iPhone?

    >
    > >> >> Any phone I've used or tested in the last two years would satisy
    > >> >> that statement. *Amd amy of those phones had just as many, if not
    > >> >> more, practical features than the iPhone.

    >
    > >> > Name one. Like to see it.

    >
    > >> Samsung SPH-620
    > >> Motorola Razr V3
    > >> Blackberry Pearl
    > >> Samsung Blackjack II
    > >> HTC Touch
    > >> Motorola Z6tv

    >
    > >> Want more?

    >
    > > Yes the ones that are easier to use and more intuitive than the
    > > iPhone. These are good if you are a tech geek. Most have features that
    > > take a while for most people to figure out.

    >
    > The SPH-620 is used by my wife, who's "tech geek" experience would
    > consist of being able to turn on and log in to our home computer.
    >
    > The Samsung Blackjack II is used by my 14 year-old daughter who's
    > interest in boys greatly outweighs her desire to learn about technology.
    >
    > The Razr is currently being used by my 11 year old son. *It was a hand-
    > me-down form me, so he learned how to use it without the benefit of a
    > user's manual.
    >
    > So, your "tech geek" label doesn't apply.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I laugh at this.

    I can sit across from people who have these devices and show them a
    neat feature of the iPhone, they will say they think their phone does
    that too and they will play with it for several minutes and then give
    up. They can not remember how!

    Those other phones are user friendly - NOT.

    LOL
  • 02-29-2008, 05:55 PM
    The Bob
    Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:[email protected]:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> >
    >> > 14 year old daughter and 11 year old son. Need I say more.

    >>
    >> Please do, as your response really doesn't make any sense.
    >>
    >> >

    >
    > I really need to explain? LOL
    >


    Well, you were saying that the phones I listed require "tech Geek"
    expertise to use functionality without effort. I showed that you were
    anything but right. In that context, your statement makes no sense as a
    reply.
  • 02-29-2008, 02:59 PM
    Todd Allcock


    "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    > It's funny how Winmob devices get 22 chances to "get it right" but the
    > iPhone has to be perfect.


    If the iPhone has to be "perfect" it's only because of Steve Jobs crapping
    on every phone that ever came before it at the 2007 keynote. HE set the
    bar!

    > And the iPhone is a lot more than just user-friendly, or in the naive
    > words of some detractors, a toy. Right now my iPhone "toy" is running
    > Apache and SSH servers. With the Web server I have access to my iPhone
    > from any computer on the same network--and I only turn it on when I need
    > it. SSH, of course, lets me do just about everything on the iPhone from
    > another computer. Or I can use a terminal right on the iPhone itself. This
    > is a full blown 'nix 'puter that is capable of just about anything. Heck,
    > I have a cron job that FTPs my contacts and addressbook databases to safe
    > location each hour. And the hardware fits the iPhone like a glove: it just
    > works.


    Which is very cool, but requires a level of hacking that makes the
    convoluted reg editing and tweaking of a WinMo phone look a walk in the
    park!

    > Could *never* say that about any Winmob device I've ever owned.


    I'll give you that. Unfortunately, the touchscreen version of the WinMo OS
    has never been built from ground up for telephony use. It's always been a
    "kludge" built by grafting phone hardware onto an existing OS built for
    PDAs.

    The WinMo "Standard" version, however, (formerly known as "Windows Mobile
    Smartphone") for non-touchscreen devices is a far more stable and
    phone-centric OS- it WAS designed as a phone OS unlike the PDA versions, and
    was MS' answer to the earlier attempts of phone manufactures to build PDA
    phones built on the Pocket PC platform. I don't use it, however, for the
    same reason I don't use an iPhone- there are too many features lacking from
    them that are readily and easily available on WinMo Pro devices. I'm
    apparently all too willing to trade ease-of-use and stability for an
    enhanced feature set! ;-) I did buy my wife a WinMo Standard handset
    because, like the iPhone, it too "just works" for it's intended
    out-of-the-box functions, but, like WinMO Pro, is also easily enhanced by
    third-party apps- just not to the same degree, although that's been changing
    as more developers concentrate on the now more popular "Standard" platform.





  • 02-29-2008, 11:43 AM
    News


    Kurt wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Kurt <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>In article <[email protected]>,
    >> News <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Kurt wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>> The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    >>>>>news:[email protected]:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>>>>The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Todd Allcock <[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    >>>>>>>following in news:[email protected]:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>At 26 Feb 2008 18:04:56 -0600 The Bob wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>"In terms of subjective preference"
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Enough said.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>To be fair to theiPhone, I don't think anyone faults it's ease of
    >>>>>>>>use, or UI.
    >>>>>>>>It's just a lack of included features that makes it something I
    >>>>>>>>wouldn't
    >>>>>>>>carry.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>I agree- I don't fault ease of use, but as you say below that hasn't
    >>>>>>>really been an issue for a while now. Basicaaly, it has a glitzy
    >>>>>>>interface that offers the ease of use found on other phones.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>What other phone with all its features, is as easy and intuitive as
    >>>>>>the iPhone?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Any phone I've used or tested in the last two years would satisy that
    >>>>>statement. Amd amy of those phones had just as many, if not more,
    >>>>>practical features than the iPhone.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>Name one. Like to see it.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>iPaq hw6515/6715/6945

    >>
    >>$750 and the same old interface. Does have GPS.

    >
    >
    > "Seemingly custom-built for business travelers, the HP iPAQ hw6515 ($450
    > with two-year service contract) will tell you where you're going and who
    > wants you to get there, with its excellent push e-mail and GPS
    > functions. Unfortunately, bugs and incompatibilities with some Pocket PC
    > software plagued our preproduction unit and left us troubled."



    "This user untroubled by past two plus years' use of production units."
  • 02-29-2008, 11:41 AM
    News


    Kurt wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > News <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Kurt wrote:
    >>
    >>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>> The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    >>>>news:[email protected]:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>>>The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Todd Allcock <[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    >>>>>>following in news:[email protected]:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>At 26 Feb 2008 18:04:56 -0600 The Bob wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>"In terms of subjective preference"
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Enough said.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>To be fair to theiPhone, I don't think anyone faults it's ease of
    >>>>>>>use, or UI.
    >>>>>>>It's just a lack of included features that makes it something I
    >>>>>>>wouldn't
    >>>>>>>carry.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>I agree- I don't fault ease of use, but as you say below that hasn't
    >>>>>>really been an issue for a while now. Basicaaly, it has a glitzy
    >>>>>>interface that offers the ease of use found on other phones.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>What other phone with all its features, is as easy and intuitive as
    >>>>>the iPhone?
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>Any phone I've used or tested in the last two years would satisy that
    >>>>statement. Amd amy of those phones had just as many, if not more,
    >>>>practical features than the iPhone.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Name one. Like to see it.
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >>iPaq hw6515/6715/6945

    >
    >
    > $750 and the same old interface. Does have GPS.



    $319 from HP direct. Hire a better buying service.

    >

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