i am so tired of waiting, nextel will probably loose some buyers if they keep delaying like this. i know i wouldnt wait if i didnt have my i860

**** the i930. This phone is so outdated! Not to mention how BIG it is! There is no way I'd get one. And, when it does drop, the price is gonna be outrageous!

the i930 is old but there is alot better coming
from what i hear
the i870 is going to be the phone to have MP3 player, 1.3 megapix camera with a memory stick. windows mobile. bluetooth all the good stuff

the i930 is going to be the new world phone and it is going to be GSM

the 900 seris will have win mobile

the 800 seris will not.

yes the 870 will have an mp3 player, and takes an sd card and blue tooth.

the 930 will be win mobile with an sdio slot. Ie you can add bluetooth if you need it or wifi.

i would hope that they upgrade the i930's camera to 1.3 mp since they are waiting so long with it.

well your hopes are not correct as once out of dev they just will not add a major feature like that.

So which techinally will be a better phone...i930 or the i870? When in the Q4 will the i870 be out?

well it seems that the only thing better about the i870 will be the camera, and honestly the camera isnt all that important.

Ok ok...cool, and the i870 wont be a Window Phone right? Haha, what exactly is a windows phone? haha

windows phones are phones that run on a mobile version of windows (like the one on most computers). this is useful because it allows you to sync with your email programs and other programs such as microsoft word. and no i dont belive that the i870 will be a smartphone.

Good look kid

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobi...e/default.mspx

That is a good link to explain winmo.

The diffence between the two phones are

930
Windows smart phone
thick
gsm (world phone)
not a great camera (no big thing to me)
no bluetooth (but if you get an sdio bluetooth card it will)

870
Better camera
bluetooth
thiner and the 930
iden only


there are other feaures i'm not mentioning but these are the big diffeneces.

I'm still hearing oct for the 930 but i have not heard what the releace for september is.

Crossing fingers...
I've heard Sept. but you can't trust anyone, but I sure do hope it's Sept.

does anyone know if java apps will still work on the i930?

I have heard yes but do not quote me. as i have not tried one for myself still waiting for releace, but thinking about since nextel is big on the telenav and gps stuff like that, i assume that it will have java apps.

notserp where are you hearing sept.