hey doc..u are absolutely correct....i dont know what is wrong with me...its been a long night and im not concetrating....i guess i wrote that half Conscious.....i do appologize....im just trying to get as much info i can so i can make an educated buy when i get back home.....i was going to get the i850 but now that i see that there are 2 or more new phones on the horizon i will try to wait it out and see....

do you dare....

Well i mentioned in this thread that the 930 will not have bluetooth with out the card, up to you to see if it works with your device. but it at least will give you the option to have it. Also if you read the thread you would of seen that listed here is the fcc site that has the aproval which are the Final spects for the phone.

usm that is cool and again i hope i did not come off as an ass, it just the question is getting anoying.

thanks for saying something.

as for the choice of the phone depends on your needs,
I look at the i930 and see for me having the pda in it will be great, and adding the gsm just makes it better for me, cause i am a photographer and do alot of travaling. so that will be huge.

personally i do not see the 870 as a big thing, as all it has is a 1.2 mp camera, a mp3 player that uses a sd card i think or minisd so you go not have big storage. and bluetooth again not really a big feature for me.

see i have an axim that has blue tooth and an sd card and i would like to have it work with my phone and be interchangeable so that is why all these specs have caught my attention.....i am tired of my i730 and would like to upgrade and i wanna see what comes out before i extend my contract to get the phone.....do u know if the phones are going to have mp3 ringtones???

yeah i hear you, i want to use my 730 for a back up phone soon as well....be it a deasent phone and has not given me any troubles i want to get a phone i can use as a pda sync with outlook and use a better internet brower. so i'm looking forward to the i930, plus it will play mp3s and videos in the windows mobile version of media player. If you are not familar with winmo this link will give you some nice info. http://www.sdcard.com/usa/TextPage.asp?Page=5 oh yeah one thing the 930 again due to the fact the phone is a few years late will not have winmo 5. It has like winmo 3.2 but do not quote me on the version.

as for playing mp3 ringtone that i can not answer I just do not know.

I'll see if i can find out.

see i knew i wasnt the only one.....see i dont know if i should bother with the gsm since i rarely travel so i dont need an international phone.....but the pda functions would be good to have....does the i870 contain and pda functions or is it a regular phone with bt and and mp3????

870 is just a reg phone with bluetooth mp3 player and 1.2 mp camera.

easy way to know the 9xx will be the winmo phones. the 8xx are just high end clams.

Yeah it comes down to your needs, i know my needs are mainly for the pda. the gsm is a great extra feature for me cause of my travels, or hinderence depending on who calls hehe.

very good point...im just going to have to wait and see and hope that the anticapation doesnt kill me and i end up buying the wrong one for me

What is the MP of the i860?

It's prob coming out the first monday in Sept.....
Since the i930 is going to be the first phone to work on Nextel and Sprint....
and they just merged....

I don't care though...i already switched and im happy with the razr.

oh yeah i860 is VGA 0.3 MP

so the i870 will have a better camera then?

yea alot better

the i930 will not work on both networks, only Nextel. There will never be a phone that works on both networks, the two companies will eventually move to nextels new network which they have not created yet. it will be a much higher frequency.

First post here, although I have been following this thread for months now. I have my serious doubts whether the i930 is even going to be released. So much now that I'm strongly considering dumping Nextel and going to Cingular.

First, we all know that Sprint bought Nextel. Sprint uses CDMA. Are they really going to allow a dual band iDEN/GSM phone? I don't believe it. The only way that I can see it released is maybe the GSM is disabled.

Next, iDEN is going away. Either they are going to create this 'new network' or just use CDMA. My bet is use CDMA. CDMA is pretty good technology, but they haven't figured out how to get a comparible Direct Connect to work right (Sprint has ReadyLink, but I've heard that leaves a lot to be desired). I bet they put a lot of resources toward getting it to work with CDMA.

Thre will probably never be integration between iDEN and CDMA as Sprint is already putting together a mass marketing campaign to move people from the dated (and at capacity) Nextel iDEN network to Sprint phones.

Why would Sprint want to release a new smartphone and have people investing further into the current network?

Last I heard the i930 is so dated anyway (it was originally due out Q4 2004). Do they really want to push out a product like this?

My 2 cents. I hope I'm wrong, but my faith in Nextel is waning.

Today I got so frustrated I called a Uniden engineer directly. He was very helpful and suggested me to wait until uniden comes out with a REV 2, but that the problem was that iDen phones are strictly analog and that the signals from the nextel towers are still analog just with digital converters. For the cell phone and cordless phone units to work together they both have to be digital. He suggested for me to wait until Sprint/Nextel comes out with the dual phones. He gave me all his contact information and told me to call him before I buy any phones and he will test them for me. He also mentioned he has friends at Nextel and can get all the inside information for me.