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Old 06-01-2007, 01:41 AM   #1
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Water damage to i607 (Blackjack)


In a nutshell, my i607 had been dropped in water... had a battery in it for about 20 seconds. I need a phone, it's my lifeline. I notice that there are 6 screws on the back that use a normal philips head to be removed. Seems so easy to open up, dry off, any closeback up. For some reason, it doesn't want to open. I'm not about to snap the back trying to get this thing off either... anyone have a suggestion on how to open this damn thing? Or should I just attempt to live a day or two without it?


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The phone is a gonner. Hope you had insurance. Its kinda hard to make a phone come back to life when its been in the water for 20sec. Rememeber: Phone + battery + water= short circuit = your screwed.
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ya dude its gone sorry
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alright, well, the phone actually works. Not sure how or why, but it does...
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The phone is a gonner. Hope you had insurance. Its kinda hard to make a phone come back to life when its been in the water for 20sec. Rememeber: Phone + battery + water= short circuit = your screwed.
havocide3 please ignore this guy just becuase your phone got wet does not mean its a gonner. electricity will not short circuit at the voltage a phone runs at so do not worry about that.

pretty much you (or someone more technical) need to get the phone open and clean the pcb as soon as possable, the longer it is left the more corrosion will occur on your pcb making repair difficult.

if you get it open i would advice getting some sort of alchol based solvent such as metholated spirit or ipa and scrub the board with a toothbrush once you have done this dry the board with hairdryer for approx 5-10 minutes until all of the solvent has evaporated. re-assemble your phone and charge it over night. your battery may be goosed if so you should be able to pick one up for about $15 or so

hope this helps

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I dont know what obeo2k2 is smoking.. but , sooner or later that phone will be a goner. Why do you think service centers dont cover liquid damage if its that simple to take care off?
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I don't know what obeo2k2 is smoking.. but , sooner or later that phone will be a goner. Why do you think service centers don't cover liquid damage if its that simple to take care off?
dude you crack me up. service centers don't cover liquid damage as its not covered by warranty. go to any non warranty service center and they will do it.

i know this because im a mobile phone engineer in a non warranty service center and repair about 30 liquid damaged phones per day

so please check your information before posting!

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I don't know what obeo2k2 is smoking.. but , sooner or later that phone will be a goner. Why do you think service centers don't cover liquid damage if its that simple to take care off?
INSURANCE doesn't cover it. It is sometimes repairable, depending on many factors.

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dude you crack me up. service centers don't cover liquid damage as its not covered by warranty. go to any non warranty service center and they will do it.

i know this because im a mobile phone engineer in a non warranty service center and repair about 30 liquid damaged phones per day

so please check your information before posting!
Price, my good man, is an important factor that you need to consider. If you're a mobile device engineer, that should be one thing to think of right away.

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fixing the phone through service and repair insurance has nothing to do with the manufacture warranty. I'm not saying water damaged phones cannot be fixed, but sooner or later that phone will go bad, refurbished phones will last longer then a water/liquid damage phone.
My personal phone (nextel i850) was dropped in water a month ago and is working fine after I cleaned everything (speaker,mic.,LCD,keypad,ect..).I'm trying to sell it for $60 even though I paid $150, why? because IT WILL go bad. That way I can atleast make $60 to purchase a better phone.
Anyways......I'd still want some of that smoke. Dont think I forgot already.
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fixing the phone through service and repair insurance has nothing to do with the manufacture warranty. I'm not saying water damaged phones cannot be fixed, but sooner or later that phone will go bad, refurbished phones will last longer then a water/liquid damage phone.
My personal phone (nextel i850) was dropped in water a month ago and is working fine after I cleaned everything (speaker,mic.,LCD,keypad,ect..).I'm trying to sell it for $60 even though I paid $150, why? because IT WILL go bad. That way I can atleast make $60 to purchase a better phone.
Anyways......I'd still want some of that smoke. Dont think I forgot already.
i gotta disagree with you pal if the liquid damge is cleared correctly then there is no reason why it should noit last as long as if it had never got wet in the first place.

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INSURANCE doesn't cover it. It is sometimes repairable, depending on many factors.



Price, my good man, is an important factor that you need to consider. If you're a mobile device engineer, that should be one thing to think of right away.

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your right price is a very important factor but over here in uk we charge around £20 for a liquid damage repair which when you consider most phones over here are £100+ then its definalty worth getting it repaired rather then buying a new one.

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In a nutshell, my i607 had been dropped in water... had a battery in it for about 20 seconds. I need a phone, it's my lifeline. I notice that there are 6 screws on the back that use a normal philips head to be removed. Seems so easy to open up, dry off, any closeback up. For some reason, it doesn't want to open. I'm not about to snap the back trying to get this thing off either... anyone have a suggestion on how to open this damn thing? Or should I just attempt to live a day or two without it?
I jumped in the lake with my i607 and it started acting weird. It would sometimes work for a few minutes and then shut down. Sometimes it would just hang on the application screen. I was having the same problems with getting the back off. Finally I just decided to force it and it popped loose. Be careful though not to break the ribbon cable and antenna wire, or to loose the 3 finger pads on the sides. I opened it up and put it in a bowl and then splashed rubbing alcohol on the circutry and let it soak for 10 minutes. Then dried it thoroughly with a hair drier. It now seems to work fine although the screen is a little wavy. Maybe that will go away with time as the remaining alcohol dries. rsmuse@charter.net
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Hmmm. Interesting. I can see that if your cell phone was turned on while it was sopping wet, that the phone would short circuit. But from what I have read on other sites, if you do not turn the phone on, remove the battery, fully dry the phone, that the phone should work.

My experience: phone (Samsung SPH-A500) dropped into picnic cooler, sat in water for an hour.
Being a moron, I just wiped off the phone & opened the clamshell cover which powered on the phone. Bad idea. Poof ! Started acting wacky.
Shut off phone. Completely disassembled phone & dried it out. (Earlier post was helpful; after the screws come out just the plastic clips hold the back of the phone in place. Just take your time & it will disassemble.)

Phone lost all its settings. Not just the phone book, or the call history, or the alarm clock settings, or the memos, nor the downloaded ring tones. But the ESN (electronic serial number) necessary to connect to the cell network, the MIN (mobile identifier number, ie your phone number), the SID (service provider identifier number) among other settings.

My cellphone, Samsung SPH-A500 was purchased locally, here in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada from a MTS (manitoba telecom services) dealer about 2002 or 2003. Attempting to get my submarined cellphone back in service, I have learned much about cellphone hardware, software, keypad programming, service providers, etc.

Interesting history: manufactured in Korea. Sent to USA for Sprint. Sent to Ontario, Canada for Bell Mobility. Sent to Manitoba, Canada to be eventually sold to me by MTS (manitoba telecom services). Well travelled phone !

Now, when I turn on my cellphone, I see the Samsung logo during bootup, just like the past 4 years. But the MTS logo is replaced by the Bell logo. The software layering done by the MTS dealer 4 yrs. ago is lost. It looks like all the software settings went back to the default. Other than the Bell logo, it looks, feels, smells the same (only cleaner, much cleaner - 4 yrs of pocket lint gone).

I learned how to access the Service Menu using the keypad (many thanks to the Sprint USA techs & 1-800 number). I learned to reprogram the NAM (resetting the MIN, the SID, the IMSI (international mobile serviceprovider identifier), the Country Code, etc.

How does the phone work ? Well........so far whenever I make a call, I can only reach my service provider.

The next step is to find out how to reset my ESN. Appears to need an "akey" (authentication key, or code).

Almost there.

Good luck with your submarined phone.
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