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- 12-02-2005, 11:37 AM #1Guest
Because Orange are charging 10p a minute to call 0800 numbers from the
1/12/05.Onetel have decided not to offer an 0800 access number for
Orange Users anymore ,presumably because it would not be cost
effective.They now issue an 0207 number to them.However a lot of people
have managed to negotiate a free freephone bundle from Orange by
complaining.Onetel were probaly not aware of this when they made the
decision.
I trust that other providers want follow suit. I doubt if they will
because other suppliers tend to use 0800/0808 for Cable Customers as
well.
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- 12-02-2005, 02:01 PM #2LumpyGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
I called BT once and asked: "how much does it cost to call a freefone
number". Naturally, there was silence at the other end, so to clarify I
asked: "WHO pays for the phone call?"
Me? ...No
My phone company? (eg NTL, BT, T-Mobile, O2, Orange) ..No
The company I'm calling? ...YES.
I probed further, and was told that the only person who pays, is the
person receiving the call. No matter what the cost, they pick up the
tab.
So, for any mobile company to charge for a FREE call - a call that
costs them NOTHING - is just plain wrong.
Of course, BT may not have understood my question, so apologies if my
sphincter has passed on misinformation.
Lumpy
- 12-02-2005, 02:30 PM #3Ivor JonesGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Because Orange are charging 10p a minute to call 0800
> numbers from the 1/12/05.Onetel have decided not to offer
> an 0800 access number for Orange Users anymore
> ,presumably because it would not be cost effective.They
> now issue an 0207 number to them.However a lot of people
> have managed to negotiate a free freephone bundle from
> Orange by complaining.Onetel were probaly not aware of
> this when they made the decision.
What's an 0207 number..? I know about 020 numbers, do you mean one of
those that happens to start with a 7..? I've got a couple of those.
Ivor
- 12-02-2005, 02:49 PM #4R. Mark ClaytonGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
"Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Because Orange are charging 10p a minute to call 0800
>> numbers from the 1/12/05.Onetel have decided not to offer
>> an 0800 access number for Orange Users anymore
>> ,presumably because it would not be cost effective.They
>> now issue an 0207 number to them.However a lot of people
>> have managed to negotiate a free freephone bundle from
>> Orange by complaining.Onetel were probaly not aware of
>> this when they made the decision.
>
> What's an 0207 number..? I know about 020 numbers, do you mean one of
> those that happens to start with a 7..? I've got a couple of those.
>
> Ivor
>
>
Its a number that starts 0207, generally in inner London. For the caller it
is an unbarred number included in the inclusive minutes.
- 12-02-2005, 03:36 PM #5neo1iteGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
"R. Mark Clayton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> What's an 0207 number..? I know about 020 numbers, do you mean one of
>> those that happens to start with a 7..? I've got a couple of those.
>>
>> Ivor
>>
>>
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> Its a number that starts 0207, generally in inner London. For the caller
> it is an unbarred number included in the inclusive minutes.
>
I think what Ivor meant is 0207 as a code doesn't exist. The correct area
code is 020, with 7 being the first number of the local number.
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- 12-02-2005, 04:32 PM #6PricefighterGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
Ivor knows full well what the OP means!
- 12-02-2005, 05:39 PM #7Ivor JonesGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
"R. Mark Clayton" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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[snip]
> > What's an 0207 number..? I know about 020 numbers, do
> > you mean one of those that happens to start with a 7..?
> > I've got a couple of those.
>
> Its a number that starts 0207, generally in inner London.
> For the caller it is an unbarred number included in the
> inclusive minutes.
No, it starts 020. The next number could be anything, but is usually 7 or
8 (but can be 3).
Ivor
- 12-02-2005, 05:39 PM #8Ivor JonesGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
"Pricefighter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ivor knows full well what the OP means!
Indeed ;-)
Ivor
- 12-03-2005, 05:29 AM #9Ivor JonesGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
"guv" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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01> No Ivor. They have only list an 0207 number. Obviously
> the OP wanted to clarify that there was no 0203 or 0208,
> just an 0207.
That's irrelevant. The number is an 020 number, I repeat there is no such
thing as an "020x" number (where x is 3, 7, 8 or anything else). The x
digit is part of the local number, not the prefix, area code or whatever
else you want to call it, and should not be described as such.
> Just because the area code is 020, doesnt mean an 0207
> number doesnt exist. But then you knew that.
As I've just said, it doesn't exist. It's an 020 number which just happens
to start with a 7. The 7 should not be shown as part of the prefix.
But then you knew that..!
Ivor
- 12-04-2005, 07:38 AM #10RaoulGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
Ivor Jones wrote:
> That's irrelevant. The number is an 020 number, I repeat there is no such
> thing as an "020x" number (where x is 3, 7, 8 or anything else). The x
> digit is part of the local number, not the prefix, area code or whatever
> else you want to call it, and should not be described as such.
No, Ivor. No. Let's say a telephone number is 02088520000
That could be accurately described as an 020885 number.
Or an 02088 number, if you so desire.
Or an 0208 number, if it makes you happy.
Or an 020 number, too.
Raoul.
- 12-04-2005, 10:45 AM #11Ivor JonesGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
"Raoul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > That's irrelevant. The number is an 020 number, I
> > repeat there is no such thing as an "020x" number
> > (where x is 3, 7, 8 or anything else). The x digit is
> > part of the local number, not the prefix, area code or
> > whatever else you want to call it, and should not be
> > described as such.
>
> No, Ivor. No. Let's say a telephone number is 02088520000
>
> That could be accurately described as an 020885 number.
No, it's an 020 number, 020 is the area code or prefix, whatever you want
to call it, the rest is the local number, which happens in this case to
start with an 8. It is incorrect to describe it as anything else.
A phone number is split into two parts, the prefix and the local number,
which in most cases can be dialled without the prefix if the caller is
within that area. Your example above could be dialled 88520000 from within
the 020 area. You could not dial just the last 5, 6 or 7 digits and get
through, so you are wrong, sorry..!
Ivor
- 12-04-2005, 04:22 PM #12RaoulGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Raoul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>>Ivor Jones wrote:
>>
>>>That's irrelevant. The number is an 020 number, I
>>>repeat there is no such thing as an "020x" number
>>>(where x is 3, 7, 8 or anything else). The x digit is
>>>part of the local number, not the prefix, area code or
>>>whatever else you want to call it, and should not be
>>>described as such.
>>
>>No, Ivor. No. Let's say a telephone number is 02088520000
>>
>>That could be accurately described as an 020885 number.
>
> No, it's an 020 number, 020 is the area code or prefix, whatever you want
> to call it, the rest is the local number, which happens in this case to
> start with an 8. It is incorrect to describe it as anything else.
You mentioned area codes. I didn't, nor did the OP.
> A phone number is split into two parts, the prefix and the local number,
> which in most cases can be dialled without the prefix if the caller is
> within that area. Your example above could be dialled 88520000 from within
> the 020 area. You could not dial just the last 5, 6 or 7 digits and get
> through, so you are wrong, sorry..!
I never said you could.
Raoul.
- 12-04-2005, 04:33 PM #13Ivor JonesGuest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
"Raoul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Raoul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> >
> > > Ivor Jones wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's irrelevant. The number is an 020 number, I
> > > > repeat there is no such thing as an "020x" number
> > > > (where x is 3, 7, 8 or anything else). The x digit
> > > > is part of the local number, not the prefix, area
> > > > code or whatever else you want to call it, and
> > > > should not be described as such.
> > >
> > > No, Ivor. No. Let's say a telephone number is
> > > 02088520000 That could be accurately described as an 020885
> > > number.
> >
> > No, it's an 020 number, 020 is the area code or prefix,
> > whatever you want to call it, the rest is the local
> > number, which happens in this case to start with an 8.
> > It is incorrect to describe it as anything else.
>
> You mentioned area codes. I didn't, nor did the OP.
But you did. You said your example number 020 8852 0000 could be described
as an 020885 number (see above). This is incorrect. When a number is so
described, it is *always* by area/exchange code, with the locally
diallable part being omitted. For example I have an 0121 (Birmingham)
number - it would be totally incorrect for me to call it an 012131 number
(the locally diallable part starts with the digits 31), because it isn't.
> > A phone number is split into two parts, the prefix and
> > the local number, which in most cases can be dialled
> > without the prefix if the caller is within that area.
> > Your example above could be dialled 88520000 from
> > within the 020 area. You could not dial just the last
> > 5, 6 or 7 digits and get through, so you are wrong,
> > sorry..!
>
> I never said you could.
But you implied it.
Ivor
- 12-10-2005, 02:11 AM #14Stefan.Guest
Re: Onetel withdraw 0800 access to their Mobile Overide Service.
On Sun 04 Dec 2005 13:38:23, Raoul <[email protected]> wrote:
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> No, Ivor. No. Let's say a telephone number is 02088520000
>
> That could be accurately described as an 020885 number.
>
> Or an 02088 number, if you so desire.
>
> Or an 0208 number, if it makes you happy.
>
> Or an 020 number, too.
What about an 02 number?
Or even an 0 number?
Best of all, what about a number?
Heh heh! :-) Just playing.
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