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    thought this would make a good utility on cellphones -

    http://www.getjar.com/products/1007/StudyME


    Or easier still, you could just take photos of pages from books using
    your cell-phone.



    You could also put in formulas using graphical calculators.

    Any recommendations anyone ? Which is better - CASIO or Texas
    instruments?

    Could English people recommend anywhere that sell these.. argos don't
    seem to stock these caclulators.




    ps - cheating is WRONG, IMMORAL and you will get caught. Do not cheat.
    I am just curious.




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  2. #2
    Al Reynolds
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    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators

    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > thought this would make a good utility on cellphones -
    >
    > http://www.getjar.com/products/1007/StudyME
    >
    >
    > Or easier still, you could just take photos of pages from books using
    > your cell-phone.
    >
    >
    >
    > You could also put in formulas using graphical calculators.
    >
    > Any recommendations anyone ? Which is better - CASIO or Texas
    > instruments?
    >
    > Could English people recommend anywhere that sell these.. argos don't
    > seem to stock these caclulators.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ps - cheating is WRONG, IMMORAL and you will get caught. Do not cheat.
    > I am just curious.


    It would be hard enough to get a mobile into a public exam and use it,
    and if you are caught cheating at GCSE, you fail all your subjects AFAIR.

    Al





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    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators


    >
    > It would be hard enough to get a mobile into a public exam and use it,
    > and if you are caught cheating at GCSE, you fail all your subjects AFAIR.
    >
    > Al


    I'm talking about 'tests' / 'mocks' not real exams.




  4. #4

    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators


    [email protected] wrote:
    > thought this would make a good utility on cellphones -
    >
    > http://www.getjar.com/products/1007/StudyME
    >
    >
    > Or easier still, you could just take photos of pages from books using
    > your cell-phone.
    >
    >
    >
    > You could also put in formulas using graphical calculators.
    >
    > Any recommendations anyone ? Which is better - CASIO or Texas
    > instruments?
    >
    > Could English people recommend anywhere that sell these.. argos don't
    > seem to stock these caclulators.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ps - cheating is WRONG, IMMORAL and you will get caught. Do not cheat.
    > I am just curious.


    I'd recommend memorizing the material - it's impossible to get caught
    that way and is likely more reliable then most of those flakey picture
    cell phones anyway.




  5. #5
    BORG
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    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators

    On 8 Dec 2005 15:34:01 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

    >
    >>
    >> It would be hard enough to get a mobile into a public exam and use it,
    >> and if you are caught cheating at GCSE, you fail all your subjects AFAIR.
    >>
    >> Al

    >
    >I'm talking about 'tests' / 'mocks' not real exams.



    If your to stupid not to be able to do a GCSE then you shouldn't have
    a mobile phone
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  6. #6
    Al Reynolds
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    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators

    <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> It would be hard enough to get a mobile into a public exam and use it,
    >> and if you are caught cheating at GCSE, you fail all your subjects AFAIR.
    >>
    >> Al

    >
    > I'm talking about 'tests' / 'mocks' not real exams.
    >


    You've obviously overestimated their importance then.
    There are much easier ways to cheat in non-public exams.

    Al





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    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators


    [email protected] wrote:
    > [email protected] wrote:
    > > thought this would make a good utility on cellphones -
    > >
    > > http://www.getjar.com/products/1007/StudyME
    > >
    > >
    > > Or easier still, you could just take photos of pages from books using
    > > your cell-phone.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > You could also put in formulas using graphical calculators.
    > >
    > > Any recommendations anyone ? Which is better - CASIO or Texas
    > > instruments?
    > >
    > > Could English people recommend anywhere that sell these.. argos don't
    > > seem to stock these caclulators.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ps - cheating is WRONG, IMMORAL and you will get caught. Do not cheat.
    > > I am just curious.

    >
    > I'd recommend memorizing the material - it's impossible to get caught
    > that way and is likely more reliable then most of those flakey picture
    > cell phones anyway.


    A bunch of people cheated in my final exams using personal stereos.
    They recorded their notes onto tape and played them back during the
    exam.

    One of them got the highest mark in the year!




  8. #8
    Dr A. N. Walker
    Guest

    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators

    In article <[email protected]>,
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    >I'd recommend memorizing the material - it's impossible to get caught
    >that way and is likely more reliable then most of those flakey picture
    >cell phones anyway.


    I'd recommend understanding the material. It has all the
    advantages of memorising plus: you don't need to do the memorising
    and it's a better foundation for more advanced work. Of course, it
    won't work if you're stupid; but in that case neither will cheating
    or memorising. Sadly, it seems to be out of fashion, and also to be
    somewhat downplayed by the revision guides.

    --
    Andy Walker, School of MathSci., Univ. of Nott'm, UK.
    [email protected]



  9. #9
    Ian Johnston
    Guest

    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators

    On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:28:39 UTC, [email protected] (Dr A. N.
    Walker) wrote:

    : Sadly, it seems to be out of fashion, and also to be
    : somewhat downplayed by the revision guides.

    Welcome to the insane world of Outcomes Based Education.

    Ian
    :


    --




  10. #10

    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators


    Dr A. N. Walker wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >I'd recommend memorizing the material - it's impossible to get caught
    > >that way and is likely more reliable then most of those flakey picture
    > >cell phones anyway.

    >
    > I'd recommend understanding the material. It has all the
    > advantages of memorising plus: you don't need to do the memorising
    > and it's a better foundation for more advanced work. Of course, it
    > won't work if you're stupid; but in that case neither will cheating
    > or memorising. Sadly, it seems to be out of fashion, and also to be
    > somewhat downplayed by the revision guides.
    >
    > --
    > Andy Walker, School of MathSci., Univ. of Nott'm, UK.
    > [email protected]


    Although this is a widely held believe, I consider it false.
    Understanding is not enough especially in more advanced courses where
    new definitions and theorems are introduced at a blistering pace. It's
    unrealistic to expect understanding without a clearly memorized
    definition especially in a test enviorment. You might argue that closed
    book testing isn't of value, but for those of us who have to
    participate in them memorization cannot be replaced by meer
    understanding.




  11. #11
    Alun Harford
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    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators

    "Dr A. N. Walker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>I'd recommend memorizing the material - it's impossible to get caught
    >>that way and is likely more reliable then most of those flakey picture
    >>cell phones anyway.

    >
    > I'd recommend understanding the material.


    Sadly, this is a bad idea.
    Our education system is geared towards memorising things, rather
    understanding and thinking for yourself.
    I guess it's easier to test memory than it is to test understanding.

    Alun Harford





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    Justin
    Guest

    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators

    In sci.math [email protected] wrote:

    : A bunch of people cheated in my final exams using personal stereos.
    : They recorded their notes onto tape and played them back during the
    : exam.

    (1) They were allowed to listen to stereos during the exam?!

    (2) This doesn't seem particularly helpful. Was the exam merely the
    regurgitating of notes? If not then how could you search through the
    notes for the relevent material? Rewind-Fast Forward?!

    Justin




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    The Drone
    Guest

    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators

    In article <[email protected]>, Dr A. N. Walker
    <[email protected]> writes

    > I'd recommend understanding the material. It has all the
    >advantages of memorising plus: you don't need to do the memorising
    >and it's a better foundation for more advanced work.


    So far as it goes, I agree - particularly with understanding being "a
    better foundation for more advanced work." in which case I would have
    thought it was axiomatic.

    This isn't necessarily the case where there is no aim for more advanced
    work. Knowing a particular thing might be useful but its understanding
    might be so difficult that it detracts from other, more appropriate
    learning. I never understood the "least squares" (?) calculation for the
    best fit of a straight line through a set of points but I've used the
    formula several times. Sadly, I've used it so rarely that I never
    memorised it either so I have to look it up (or use Excel!) but if I
    needed it regularly, it would be remembered easily enough. For me, it's
    enough to know it exists and what it does.
    --
    Peter



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    Matthew Huntbach
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    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators

    On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 [email protected] wrote:
    > Dr A. N. Walker wrote:
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:


    >>> I'd recommend memorizing the material - it's impossible to get caught
    >>> that way and is likely more reliable then most of those flakey
    >>> picture cell phones anyway.


    >> I'd recommend understanding the material. It has all the
    >> advantages of memorising plus: you don't need to do the memorising
    >> and it's a better foundation for more advanced work.


    > Although this is a widely held believe, I consider it false.
    > Understanding is not enough especially in more advanced courses where
    > new definitions and theorems are introduced at a blistering pace. It's
    > unrealistic to expect understanding without a clearly memorized
    > definition especially in a test enviorment.


    You are wrong. I have 16 years of university level teaching, and
    in my experience the belief that learning==memorisation is the
    second most common cause of student failure (behind only laziness).

    I teach computer programming, and I suspect the same applies to
    the sort of stuff Andy teaches. The number of actual facts we have
    to teach is fairly small, but the concepts are quite abstract.
    If you understand the concepts, you can build up detailed examples
    as required to solve problems given to you. Examples are given in
    teaching to explain the concepts. But there is a significant proportion
    of the class whose approach is to memorise the examples while failing
    to understand what they were given to illustrate. Sometimes they put
    an immense amount of effort into memorisation - every year I have
    students who randomly regurgitate examples I've shown in the class,
    sometimes down to typing errors I forgot to remove, and they almost
    always fail because what they regurgitate bears little relationship
    to the question, which is asking them to apply a technique, not
    to reproduce an example of that technique applied to some other
    situation (and that's when they get as far as understanding the
    question enough to give an example of the right technique).

    There is plenty of evidence that memorising patterns without
    understanding the structure of patterns is a hugely more difficult
    task than getting to understand the structure then viewing those
    patterns in terms of those structures.

    Matthew Huntbach



  15. #15
    Ian Johnston
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    Re: How to cheat in exams using mobile phones and calculators

    On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:36:57 UTC, Matthew Huntbach <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    : There is plenty of evidence that memorising patterns without
    : understanding the structure of patterns is a hugely more difficult
    : task than getting to understand the structure then viewing those
    : patterns in terms of those structures.

    Hear hear. Anyone who claims that memorisation is to be preferred to
    "mere understanding" simply hasn't a clue.

    Ian

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