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Old 01-05-2006, 01:46 PM   #1
Alex Flaherty
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These reverse charge scams & o2


I understand o2 are the only network that will allow you to opt-out of
these scams.

How do you go about it? Anyone know?



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Old 01-05-2006, 01:51 PM   #2
Tariq
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Re: These reverse charge scams & o2



Alex Flaherty wrote:

> I understand o2 are the only network that will allow you to opt-out of
> these scams.


> How do you go about it? Anyone know?


Don't think so. Scamming O2 would probably be in on the action.

Try T-Mobile. Ring their customer services and ask for 'reverse charge
text message barring'.

Tariq

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:46 PM   #3
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Re: These reverse charge scams & o2


Thus spaketh Tariq:
> Alex Flaherty wrote:
>
>> I understand o2 are the only network that will allow you to opt-out
>> of these scams.

>
>> How do you go about it? Anyone know?

>
> Don't think so. Scamming O2 would probably be in on the action.
>
> Try T-Mobile. Ring their customer services and ask for 'reverse charge
> text message barring'.
>
> Tariq


T-Mobile were the first to offer this baring service, do others?
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Old 01-05-2006, 03:42 PM   #4
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"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:sAfvf.20861$iz3.10033@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Thus spaketh Tariq:
>> Alex Flaherty wrote:
>>
>>> I understand o2 are the only network that will allow you to opt-out
>>> of these scams.

>>
>>> How do you go about it? Anyone know?

>>
>> Don't think so. Scamming O2 would probably be in on the action.
>>
>> Try T-Mobile. Ring their customer services and ask for 'reverse charge
>> text message barring'.
>>
>> Tariq

>
> T-Mobile were the first to offer this baring service, do others?


Mobile companies shouldn't permit fraud in the first place. They could
prevent fraud and also stolen mobiles being used, but at the risk of revenue
and that would upset shareholders.


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Old 01-06-2006, 03:55 AM   #5
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Re: These reverse charge scams & o2


Brian wrote:
> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:sAfvf.20861$iz3.10033@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>
>>Thus spaketh Tariq:
>>
>>>Alex Flaherty wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I understand o2 are the only network that will allow you to opt-out
>>>>of these scams.
>>>
>>>>How do you go about it? Anyone know?
>>>
>>>Don't think so. Scamming O2 would probably be in on the action.
>>>
>>>Try T-Mobile. Ring their customer services and ask for 'reverse charge
>>>text message barring'.
>>>
>>>Tariq

>>
>>T-Mobile were the first to offer this baring service, do others?

>
>
> Mobile companies shouldn't permit fraud in the first place. They could
> prevent fraud and also stolen mobiles being used, but at the risk of revenue
> and that would upset shareholders.


Don't they already block phones reported as stolen then?

And how would you suggest they prevent reverse charge text scams? You
can sign up for them online etc, so no need to have texted the service
previously. The only way I can see it is to block all reverse charge
texts (at your request) - which I understand T-Mobile does.

I guess one option would be to require signup by text, and for the
network operator to keep the signup text for checking. No text, no billing.

The problem, as I see it, is in the presence of reverse charge texts
period. If someone can send you a text (authorised or unauthorised) and
then charge money directly to your bill for it - there's little you can
do short of having to have an 'accept this text costing £X.XX' message
before receiving the text. There's no way the network operator knows
whether you requested that or not. And for those people without
itemised billing, or PAYG, they have little knowledge of where their
money went without speaking to their network operator.

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