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Old 01-11-2006, 04:22 PM   #1
Lew
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Lost phone and info on it.


Having lost my phone today/had it nicked,, and ringing up 02 to tell
them this, they say they have blocked both the phone and the SIM.

Does this mean that any info contained on the SIM such as text messages,
pictures, phone numbers, etc, will not be accessable by whoever has the
phone?

It is a Nokia 6230i if that matters.


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Old 01-11-2006, 05:05 PM   #2
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I think you'll find the data is STILL accessible, if carried on the SIM, and
within the phone menu.

In blocking/barring the SIM, they stop it communicating with the network, no
matter which phone it is put in.

In blocking the handset, they bar the IMEI (International Mobile Equipment
Identity), so the phone will not communicate with the network, no matter
which SIM is inserted. (rendering the phone useless*)

*Only useless until the IMEI is changed, which is in fact illegal, and
carries high penalties if caught.

Yep, a lot of information is carried on a mobile....

:-(

NB/

To be 100% sure, contact the network, and get the definitve answer, but I
believe I am correct.


"Lew" <iewhfiweuf@poewupo.com> wrote in message
news:_yfxf.28285$r4.3444@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> Having lost my phone today/had it nicked,, and ringing up 02 to tell
> them this, they say they have blocked both the phone and the SIM.
>
> Does this mean that any info contained on the SIM such as text messages,
> pictures, phone numbers, etc, will not be accessable by whoever has the
> phone?
>
> It is a Nokia 6230i if that matters.



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Old 01-12-2006, 01:10 AM   #3
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Re: Lost phone and info on it.


"Lew" <iewhfiweuf@poewupo.com> wrote in message
news:_yfxf.28285$r4.3444@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> Having lost my phone today/had it nicked,, and ringing up 02 to tell them
> this, they say they have blocked both the phone and the SIM.
>
> Does this mean that any info contained on the SIM such as text messages,
> pictures, phone numbers, etc, will not be accessable by whoever has the
> phone?
>
> It is a Nokia 6230i if that matters.


If you had the PIN enabled, you'll be fine, as they wont be able to guess
it.


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Old 01-12-2006, 01:18 AM   #4
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iewhfiweuf@poewupo.com declared for all the world to hear...
> Having lost my phone today/had it nicked,, and ringing up 02 to tell
> them this, they say they have blocked both the phone and the SIM.
>
> Does this mean that any info contained on the SIM such as text messages,
> pictures, phone numbers, etc, will not be accessable by whoever has the
> phone?


Pictures are not stored an the SIM for starters, and the info will only
be protected if you set a PIN for the SIM.
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Old 01-12-2006, 03:32 AM   #5
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Re: Lost phone and info on it.


KevinX wrote:

> In blocking the handset, they bar the IMEI (International Mobile Equipment
> Identity), so the phone will not communicate with the network, no matter
> which SIM is inserted. (rendering the phone useless*)
>
> *Only useless until the IMEI is changed, which is in fact illegal, and
> carries high penalties if caught.


And only within the UK. I understand that the blocked IMEI list is only
distributed within the UK - not to countries outside the UK - eg. Africa
etc. Apparently in some African countries the black market for mobiles
is so prevalent that practically no one buys/sells legitimate ones
simply because they cannot compete on price with the black market.

D
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Old 01-12-2006, 03:32 AM   #6
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Re: Lost phone and info on it.


KevinX wrote:

> In blocking the handset, they bar the IMEI (International Mobile Equipment
> Identity), so the phone will not communicate with the network, no matter
> which SIM is inserted. (rendering the phone useless*)
>
> *Only useless until the IMEI is changed, which is in fact illegal, and
> carries high penalties if caught.


And only within the UK. I understand that the blocked IMEI list is only
distributed within the UK - not to countries outside the UK - eg. Africa
etc. Apparently in some African countries the black market for mobiles
is so prevalent that practically no one buys/sells legitimate ones
simply because they cannot compete on price with the black market.

D
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Old 01-12-2006, 03:54 AM   #7
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Taylor wrote:
> "Lew" <iewhfiweuf@poewupo.com> wrote in message
> news:_yfxf.28285$r4.3444@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>
>>Having lost my phone today/had it nicked,, and ringing up 02 to tell them
>>this, they say they have blocked both the phone and the SIM.
>>
>>Does this mean that any info contained on the SIM such as text messages,
>>pictures, phone numbers, etc, will not be accessable by whoever has the
>>phone?
>>
>>It is a Nokia 6230i if that matters.

>
>
> If you had the PIN enabled, you'll be fine, as they wont be able to guess
> it.
>
>

Ehhh?
Put a legit SIM in and they'll have acces to the phones memory. The PIN
is a SIM thing
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Old 01-12-2006, 03:54 AM   #8
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Taylor wrote:
> "Lew" <iewhfiweuf@poewupo.com> wrote in message
> news:_yfxf.28285$r4.3444@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>
>>Having lost my phone today/had it nicked,, and ringing up 02 to tell them
>>this, they say they have blocked both the phone and the SIM.
>>
>>Does this mean that any info contained on the SIM such as text messages,
>>pictures, phone numbers, etc, will not be accessable by whoever has the
>>phone?
>>
>>It is a Nokia 6230i if that matters.

>
>
> If you had the PIN enabled, you'll be fine, as they wont be able to guess
> it.
>
>

Ehhh?
Put a legit SIM in and they'll have acces to the phones memory. The PIN
is a SIM thing
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Old 01-12-2006, 04:00 AM   #9
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"KevinX" <kevinx@NOTTHISBITearthling.net> wrote in message
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>
> To be 100% sure, contact the network, and get the definitve answer, but I
> believe I am correct.


I'd sooner trust the 'regulars' on here to give a "definitive answer". :-)


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Old 01-12-2006, 04:00 AM   #10
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"KevinX" <kevinx@NOTTHISBITearthling.net> wrote in message
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>
> To be 100% sure, contact the network, and get the definitve answer, but I
> believe I am correct.


I'd sooner trust the 'regulars' on here to give a "definitive answer". :-)


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J B


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Old 01-12-2006, 07:46 AM   #11
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"David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
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> KevinX wrote:
> Apparently in some African countries the black market for mobiles
> is so prevalent that practically no one buys/sells legitimate ones
> simply because they cannot compete on price with the black market.


African Black Market eh? lol. Made me smile anyway

Bear in mind though that not all black Africans are dodgy thieves - I sold
my new 8310 T-Mobile upgrade a while back to a Nigerian and he paid a fair
price in cash. Nice fella.


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Old 01-12-2006, 07:46 AM   #12
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Re: Lost phone and info on it.



"David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
news:dq57mp$t1m$1@slavica.ukpost.com...
> KevinX wrote:
> Apparently in some African countries the black market for mobiles
> is so prevalent that practically no one buys/sells legitimate ones
> simply because they cannot compete on price with the black market.


African Black Market eh? lol. Made me smile anyway

Bear in mind though that not all black Africans are dodgy thieves - I sold
my new 8310 T-Mobile upgrade a while back to a Nigerian and he paid a fair
price in cash. Nice fella.


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Old 01-12-2006, 11:49 AM   #13
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"Spammy Sammy" <Someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> "David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:dq57mp$t1m$1@slavica.ukpost.com...
> > KevinX wrote:
> > Apparently in some African countries the black market
> > for mobiles is so prevalent that practically no one
> > buys/sells legitimate ones simply because they cannot
> > compete on price with the black market.

>
> African Black Market eh? lol. Made me smile anyway
>
> Bear in mind though that not all black Africans are dodgy
> thieves - I sold my new 8310 T-Mobile upgrade a while
> back to a Nigerian and he paid a fair price in cash. Nice
> fella.


Was that before or after you discovered the notes were counterfeit..?! ;-)

Ivor


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Old 01-12-2006, 11:49 AM   #14
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"Spammy Sammy" <Someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> "David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:dq57mp$t1m$1@slavica.ukpost.com...
> > KevinX wrote:
> > Apparently in some African countries the black market
> > for mobiles is so prevalent that practically no one
> > buys/sells legitimate ones simply because they cannot
> > compete on price with the black market.

>
> African Black Market eh? lol. Made me smile anyway
>
> Bear in mind though that not all black Africans are dodgy
> thieves - I sold my new 8310 T-Mobile upgrade a while
> back to a Nigerian and he paid a fair price in cash. Nice
> fella.


Was that before or after you discovered the notes were counterfeit..?! ;-)

Ivor


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Old 01-12-2006, 02:27 PM   #15
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With the "black Market?" was that a Freudeon slip??

I "believe" the same applies to most of the rest of Europe also, in as much
as there is not a reciprocal barring protocol


"David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
news:dq57mp$t1m$1@slavica.ukpost.com...
> KevinX wrote:
>
> > In blocking the handset, they bar the IMEI (International Mobile

Equipment
> > Identity), so the phone will not communicate with the network, no matter
> > which SIM is inserted. (rendering the phone useless*)
> >
> > *Only useless until the IMEI is changed, which is in fact illegal, and
> > carries high penalties if caught.

>
> And only within the UK. I understand that the blocked IMEI list is only
> distributed within the UK - not to countries outside the UK - eg. Africa
> etc. Apparently in some African countries the black market for mobiles
> is so prevalent that practically no one buys/sells legitimate ones
> simply because they cannot compete on price with the black market.
>
> D



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