T-Mobile 'unlimited' web - GPRS only :(

04-03-2006, 05:42 AM

Hello All,

I called T-Mobile and they say the £7.50/month unlimited browsing is GPRS
only... which is basically 9600 baud.
I was under the impression this would work for 3G browsing also?

They also said 3G is London and Birmingham only. If I can get 3G on orange
in my location, could I assume that T-Mobile 3G would work also?

04-03-2006, 06:05 AM

In article <44310a2e$0$8346$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, cmp@notvalid.com
says...
> Hello All,
>
> I called T-Mobile and they say the £7.50/month unlimited browsing is GPRS
> only... which is basically 9600 baud.
> I was under the impression this would work for 3G browsing also?
>
>

GPRS is not 9600 baud. The speed you can get varies but I can typically
get 5KB/s.

They lied. It is 3G too.

Steve.

04-03-2006, 06:38 AM

A bit more like 36KB/s.

"Steve Henson" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <44310a2e$0$8346$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, cmp@notvalid.com
> says...
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I called T-Mobile and they say the £7.50/month unlimited browsing is
GPRS
> > only... which is basically 9600 baud.
> > I was under the impression this would work for 3G browsing also?
> >
> >
>
> GPRS is not 9600 baud. The speed you can get varies but I can typically
> get 5KB/s.
>
> They lied. It is 3G too.
>
> Steve.

04-03-2006, 07:11 AM

In article <443114d6$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net>,
kevin.lovejoy@amsjv.com says...
>
> "Steve Henson" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1e9b20037e26bbd19896a0@news.clara.net...
> > In article <44310a2e$0$8346$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, cmp@notvalid.com
> > says...
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I called T-Mobile and they say the £7.50/month unlimited browsing is
> GPRS
> > > only... which is basically 9600 baud.
> > > I was under the impression this would work for 3G browsing also?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > GPRS is not 9600 baud. The speed you can get varies but I can typically
> > get 5KB/s.
> >
> > They lied. It is 3G too.
> >
>
> A bit more like 36KB/s.
>

I cannot commment on T-mobile (yet: awaiting SIM only PIN) but the
highest speed I've seen in real life on Orange 2G GPRS is 5KB/s as in 5
kilobytes per second.

I haven't tried 3G yet.

Steve.

04-03-2006, 07:23 AM

"Steve Henson" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <44310a2e$0$8346$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, cmp@notvalid.com
> says...
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I called T-Mobile and they say the £7.50/month unlimited browsing is GPRS
>> only... which is basically 9600 baud.
>> I was under the impression this would work for 3G browsing also?
>>
>>
>
> GPRS is not 9600 baud. The speed you can get varies but I can typically
> get 5KB/s.
>
> They lied. It is 3G too.
>
> Steve.

Ah ok so we can use this on 3G aswell? And get up to 128Kb/s?

If Orange's 3G signal works here, could I expect T-Mobiles to aswell? Or are
they entirely different?

04-03-2006, 07:33 AM

"me" <cmp@notvalid.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Henson" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1e9b20037e26bbd19896a0@news.clara.net...
>> In article <44310a2e$0$8346$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
>> cmp@notvalid.com
>> says...
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I called T-Mobile and they say the £7.50/month unlimited browsing
>>> is GPRS
>>> only... which is basically 9600 baud.
>>> I was under the impression this would work for 3G browsing also?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> GPRS is not 9600 baud. The speed you can get varies but I can
>> typically
>> get 5KB/s.
>>
>> They lied. It is 3G too.
>>
>> Steve.
>
> Ah ok so we can use this on 3G aswell? And get up to 128Kb/s?
>
> If Orange's 3G signal works here, could I expect T-Mobiles to
> aswell? Or are they entirely different?
>

No. Different set of masts... as an example, at work my Orange 3G
phone can get a 3G signal, but some T-mobile 3G capable data-cards
will only find a GPRS signal - basically T-mobile have no 3G masts in
our area and Orange do.

04-03-2006, 11:55 AM

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:42:40 +0100, "me" <cmp@notvalid.com> wrote:

>
>I called T-Mobile and they say the £7.50/month unlimited browsing is GPRS
>only... which is basically 9600 baud.

If they told you that, they were lying. GPRS is around 43kbps

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04-03-2006, 11:56 AM

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:11:41 +0100, Steve Henson
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>Orange 2G GPRS is 5KB/s as in 5
>kilobytes per second.

Which is 5k x 8 kbps = 40,000

Not 9,600

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04-03-2006, 11:57 AM

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:23:55 +0100, "me" <cmp@notvalid.com> wrote:

>Ah ok so we can use this on 3G aswell? And get up to 128Kb/s?

3G is 384Kb/s

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04-03-2006, 12:18 PM

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> On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:23:55 +0100, "me" <cmp@notvalid.com> wrote:
>
>>Ah ok so we can use this on 3G aswell? And get up to 128Kb/s?
>
> 3G is 384Kb/s
>
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Thanks all. So, to recap:

Can I get 384Kb/sec unlimited browsing (apart from the caps of course, and
no p2p etc.) on the T-Mobile £7.50 thing they introduced?
They told me its GPRS only, but that some GPRS was 'very fast'. I am
presuming they do not know what they are talking about...

04-03-2006, 04:57 PM

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:18:48 +0100, "me" <cmp@notvalid.com> wrote:

>They told me its GPRS only, but that some GPRS was 'very fast'. I am
>presuming they do not know what they are talking about...

No, that's correct. GPRS can run on GSM (2G) at 43kbps or on UMTS (3G)
at 384kbps. Some GRPS is very fast. Like slightly slow broadband.

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