PAC codes and Notice Periods

Hi,

I understand that requesting a PAC code also acts as notification for
leaving your current network. I've managed to get my head around the part
month billing etc.

However, what happens if you don't use your PAC within 30 days and allow it
to expire? You're still connected, but does this also invalidate your
previous 30 days notice? Or can you quit at any time after that (via PAC or
otherwise), and get all line rental refunded?

Does your 30 days notice ever expire?

Shak

Your PAC code lasts for 30 days. If you don't use it in that time, your
phone will self-destruct.

;c). Basically, if you don't use it, nothing happens. If you want to
leave the network after your PAC code has expired, you need to request
a new one. Think of it as a voucher for money off pizza. Nothing
happens if you don't use it, no heavies come round demanding that you
buy pizza. You just have to get a new one after it's expired.

mmmm..... pizza....

Nick

Shak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I understand that requesting a PAC code also acts as notification for
> leaving your current network. I've managed to get my head around the part
> month billing etc.
>
> However, what happens if you don't use your PAC within 30 days and allow it
> to expire? You're still connected, but does this also invalidate your
> previous 30 days notice? Or can you quit at any time after that (via PAC or
> otherwise), and get all line rental refunded?
>
> Does your 30 days notice ever expire?
>
> Shak

You're partially correct but missing an important part.

Requesting a PAC AND using it will serve notice on your account from the
date of requesting the PAC.

Requesting a PAC and not using it will do nothing to your account as
until the PAC is used, no notice will have been served.

D

"NickD" <nickdrew90@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144242184.456885.284990@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Your PAC code lasts for 30 days. If you don't use it in that time, your
> phone will self-destruct.
>
> ;c). Basically, if you don't use it, nothing happens. If you want to
> leave the network after your PAC code has expired, you need to request
> a new one. Think of it as a voucher for money off pizza. Nothing
> happens if you don't use it, no heavies come round demanding that you
> buy pizza. You just have to get a new one after it's expired.
>

But it's not quite like that, is it? For example, if I request a PAC the
first time and use it immediately, the network will take 30 days notice
worth of line rental, regardless of there actually being a usable line. It
goes to waste.

I was just wondering if this was the case the second time I request a PAC,
since in theory I would have already given my 30 days notice.

Shak

Shak wrote:
> "NickD" <nickdrew90@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144242184.456885.284990@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Your PAC code lasts for 30 days. If you don't use it in that time, your
>>phone will self-destruct.
>>
>>;c). Basically, if you don't use it, nothing happens. If you want to
>>leave the network after your PAC code has expired, you need to request
>>a new one. Think of it as a voucher for money off pizza. Nothing
>>happens if you don't use it, no heavies come round demanding that you
>>buy pizza. You just have to get a new one after it's expired.
>>
>
>
> But it's not quite like that, is it? For example, if I request a PAC the
> first time and use it immediately, the network will take 30 days notice
> worth of line rental, regardless of there actually being a usable line. It
> goes to waste.

Then do as I did. Request PAC 20 days before minimum term expires. Day
after minimum term expires (day 21), give PAC to new network. Port
takes place on day 28. Wasted service = 2 days (about £1.70 for me).
Note, PAC must be entered into new network's system by expiry date - the
actual port (usually 7 days later) can happen after the expiry date.

> I was just wondering if this was the case the second time I request a PAC,
> since in theory I would have already given my 30 days notice.

No, because notice is not served on your account UNTIL you port, at
which point the start of the notice period is back-dated to the day the
PAC is requested.

If you never use the PAC, then no notice is given.

Note though, requesting a PAC *should* cancel any previous request to
cancel a contract (ie. just kill it without porting number). The
network should advise you of this, although in practice, they probably
don't.

D

Ah, see your point. Completely missed it last time around, particularly
given that I was hungry and thinking of pizza...

I reckon that your network will try, in the first instance, to charge
you for 30 days' line rental. Whether that's correct (under the t's &
c's) I'm not sure, but I would suspect they could argue the case. It's
been a long time since I've used a PAC, mind - the last few years I've
just requested it to get a good deal on renewing my contract!

Nick

"Shak" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:49hqfiFoflluU1@individual.net
> Hi,
>
> I understand that requesting a PAC code also acts as
> notification for leaving your current network. I've
> managed to get my head around the part month billing etc.
>
> However, what happens if you don't use your PAC within 30
> days and allow it to expire? You're still connected, but
> does this also invalidate your previous 30 days notice?
> Or can you quit at any time after that (via PAC or
> otherwise), and get all line rental refunded?
> Does your 30 days notice ever expire?
>
> Shak

Surely *using* the PAC gives notice, not merely asking for it..?

I don't know, I've only ever done it twice and I've used the PAC the same
day I received it (why wait..?!)

Ivor

Shak wrote:
> "NickD" <nickdrew90@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144242184.456885.284990@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > Your PAC code lasts for 30 days. If you don't use it in that time, your
> > phone will self-destruct.
> >
> > ;c). Basically, if you don't use it, nothing happens. If you want to
> > leave the network after your PAC code has expired, you need to request
> > a new one. Think of it as a voucher for money off pizza. Nothing
> > happens if you don't use it, no heavies come round demanding that you
> > buy pizza. You just have to get a new one after it's expired.
> >
>
> But it's not quite like that, is it? For example, if I request a PAC the
> first time and use it immediately, the network will take 30 days notice
> worth of line rental, regardless of there actually being a usable line. It
> goes to waste.
>
> I was just wondering if this was the case the second time I request a PAC,
> since in theory I would have already given my 30 days notice.
>
> Shak

Sort of like moving into a rented property and immediately giving the
landlord the 4 weeks notice, then not moving out, but continuing to
live in the property before leaving when you wish at any point in the
future without any notice as you gave it 6 years ago?

I'd imagine the same theory could be applied to 60/90 day notice
savings accounts

"David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
news:e10jdu$a9h$1@slavica.ukpost.com...
> Shak wrote:
>> "NickD" <nickdrew90@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1144242184.456885.284990@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>Your PAC code lasts for 30 days. If you don't use it in that time, your
>>>phone will self-destruct.
>>>
>>>;c). Basically, if you don't use it, nothing happens. If you want to
>>>leave the network after your PAC code has expired, you need to request
>>>a new one. Think of it as a voucher for money off pizza. Nothing
>>>happens if you don't use it, no heavies come round demanding that you
>>>buy pizza. You just have to get a new one after it's expired.
>>>
>>
>>
>> But it's not quite like that, is it? For example, if I request a PAC the
>> first time and use it immediately, the network will take 30 days notice
>> worth of line rental, regardless of there actually being a usable line.
>> It goes to waste.
>
> Then do as I did. Request PAC 20 days before minimum term expires. Day
> after minimum term expires (day 21), give PAC to new network. Port takes
> place on day 28. Wasted service = 2 days (about £1.70 for me). Note, PAC
> must be entered into new network's system by expiry date - the actual port
> (usually 7 days later) can happen after the expiry date.
>

Thanks for explaining the backdating of the notice. I did actually schedule
myself like you did, but I didn't have a network to port into until today. I
was worried I would miss the opputunity to use my PAC and therefore would
have to pay for another 30 days' notice, so was wondering how it all
worked - seems like I would have done.

Thanks again

Sahk