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  1. #31
    Simon
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    Re: DIY Faraday cage for a mobile phone

    "Skier" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Simon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hello -
    > >
    > > I'm writng some software to run on a PocketPC with a built-in GPRS

    phone,
    > > and I need to test the software when the GPRS signal is weak,

    intermittent
    > > or non-existent. The cheapest way to do this seems to be to build a
    > > Faraday
    > > cage with adjustable leakiness. It needs to have some holes in it so

    that
    > > I
    > > can see the screen and tap it with a stylus. Unfortunately I'm working

    at
    > > a
    > > location that has excellent GPRS coverage.
    > >
    > > I've already confirmed that a metal tin that previously contained Marks
    > > and
    > > Spencers chocolate biscuits is 100% effective, but I can't see through

    it
    > > or
    > > operate the PocketPC. I've also tried making a cage out of a single

    sheet
    > > of
    > > galvanized chicken wire with 12mm square holes, held together with

    plastic
    > > cable ties, with overlapped joints. This only caused a small amount of
    > > attenuation, the PocketPC hardly noticed. I'm guessing that it failed
    > > because the diagonals of the holes are larger than 10% of the

    wavelength
    > > that GPRS uses (1800MHz ?) or because the plastic cable ties don't

    provide
    > > good conductivity at the joints.
    > >
    > > Before I go out and buy some expensive perforated copper sheet, can

    anyone
    > > offer advice on improvements?
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > >

    >
    > I would use the tin idea with a small hole cut and connect the USB cable

    and
    > then use "active sync remote display" to control and view the screen.

    Easy!
    >
    > Then you can chop the tin up and creat some leaks to simulate different

    GPRS
    > strength.
    >
    > Paul
    >
    >


    Thanks for all the replies. I think I will seek out some finer mesh and try
    the cage route again. The cage built out of 12mm mesh does decrease the
    reading on the signal-strength icon, so I think smaller mesh may do the
    trick.
    I tried some other things, with limited success:
    - I have tried disconnecting the internal antenna, but the connector is a
    tiny coax connector about 2mm in diameter, which will almost certainly break
    after a few repetitions.
    - I don't want to activesync to the device under test, as that has an effect
    on the network configuration of the device. In fact, the device stops using
    GPRS altogether and sends its network traffic over the activesync cable.






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  2. #32
    Jon
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    Re: DIY Faraday cage for a mobile phone

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    > - I don't want to activesync to the device under test, as that has an effect
    > on the network configuration of the device. In fact, the device stops using
    > GPRS altogether and sends its network traffic over the activesync cable.


    Only if you allow it to. Open activesync and un-check the "passthru"
    mode.
    --
    Regards
    Jon



  3. #33
    Linker3000
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    Re: DIY Faraday cage for a mobile phone

    Why not just download the Pocket PC remote viewing/control software from
    Microsoft and operate it in the tin from a locally connected PC?



  4. #34
    Jon
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    Re: DIY Faraday cage for a mobile phone

    [email protected] declared for all the world to
    hear...
    > Why not just download the Pocket PC remote viewing/control software from
    > Microsoft and operate it in the tin from a locally connected PC?


    What software is this you speak of?
    --
    Regards
    Jon



  5. #35
    Linker3000
    Guest

    Re: DIY Faraday cage for a mobile phone

    Jon wrote:
    > [email protected] declared for all the world to
    > hear...
    >> Why not just download the Pocket PC remote viewing/control software from
    >> Microsoft and operate it in the tin from a locally connected PC?

    >
    > What software is this you speak of?


    Remote Display Control for Pocket PC

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...ctoys.mspx#ELD




  6. #36
    Simon
    Guest

    Re: DIY Faraday cage for a mobile phone

    "Simon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Hello -
    >
    > I'm writng some software to run on a PocketPC with a built-in GPRS phone,
    > and I need to test the software when the GPRS signal is weak, intermittent
    > or non-existent. The cheapest way to do this seems to be to build a

    Faraday
    > cage with adjustable leakiness. It needs to have some holes in it so that

    I
    > can see the screen and tap it with a stylus. Unfortunately I'm working at

    a
    > location that has excellent GPRS coverage.
    >
    > I've already confirmed that a metal tin that previously contained Marks

    and
    > Spencers chocolate biscuits is 100% effective, but I can't see through it

    or
    > operate the PocketPC. I've also tried making a cage out of a single sheet

    of
    > galvanized chicken wire with 12mm square holes, held together with plastic
    > cable ties, with overlapped joints. This only caused a small amount of
    > attenuation, the PocketPC hardly noticed. I'm guessing that it failed
    > because the diagonals of the holes are larger than 10% of the wavelength
    > that GPRS uses (1800MHz ?) or because the plastic cable ties don't provide
    > good conductivity at the joints.
    >
    > Before I go out and buy some expensive perforated copper sheet, can anyone
    > offer advice on improvements?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    >


    Thanks for all the replies, I have put together a webpage at
    http://www.sgurr.co.uk/lundycam/faradaycage.html
    describing the faraday I eventually built, based on biscuit tin and chicken
    wire technology. It does block GPRS signals.





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