Re: Orange quid-a-day GPRS restricted?

Rick Marks <dikm@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've noticed an odd behaviour with O's all-u-can eat PAYG GPRS
> service. If I make a DUN connection from laptop via my phone it holds
> up the connection with no problems for web browsing and e-mail.
>
> But If I then connect to streaming type services (e.g. listen-now
> radio services e.g. on bbc.co.uk) or other 'real-time' IP services
> like VoIP (yeah, I know...) then the connection drops within a few
> seconds. It's repeatable and consistent. Same behaviour in more than
> one type of phone including an SPV.
>
> It's as if O are 'monitoring' application (port?) usage such as Skype,
> SIP-based VoIP, Real Player etc at the network level and are cutting
> off anything that makes a session of semi-continuous or streamed data.
> Has anyone else seen this behaviour? In the case of my old Ericsson
> phone, it also often crashes the device, forcing a reboot.

Sorry Rick, I have precisely the opposite experience. That is, when I'm
streaming radio, the connection is rock solid. It's when I'm not using
the connection much, for example, reading a long web page, that the
connection sometimes cuts out. I've had connections as long as an hour
or so, which is impressive given I usually only use it on the train!

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Rick Marks <dikm@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:12:40 +0100, this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com
> (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
> prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:
>
> >Rick Marks <dikm@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've noticed an odd behaviour with O's all-u-can eat PAYG GPRS
> >> service. If I make a DUN connection from laptop via my phone it holds
> >> up the connection with no problems for web browsing and e-mail.
> >>
> >> But If I then connect to streaming type services (e.g. listen-now
> >> radio services e.g. on bbc.co.uk) or other 'real-time' IP services
> >> like VoIP (yeah, I know...) then the connection drops within a few
> >> seconds. It's repeatable and consistent. Same behaviour in more than
> >> one type of phone including an SPV.
> >>
> >> It's as if O are 'monitoring' application (port?) usage such as Skype,
> >> SIP-based VoIP, Real Player etc at the network level and are cutting
> >> off anything that makes a session of semi-continuous or streamed data.
> >> Has anyone else seen this behaviour? In the case of my old Ericsson
> >> phone, it also often crashes the device, forcing a reboot.
> >
> >Sorry Rick, I have precisely the opposite experience. That is, when I'm
> >streaming radio, the connection is rock solid. It's when I'm not using
> >the connection much, for example, reading a long web page, that the
> >connection sometimes cuts out. I've had connections as long as an hour
> >or so, which is impressive given I usually only use it on the train!
>
> Does the APN matter? I'm using "Orangeinternet" (same as for a
> contract SIM).

I'm using the same.

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David Horne wrote:
[...]
> Sorry Rick, I have precisely the opposite experience. That is, when I'm
> streaming radio, the connection is rock solid. It's when I'm not using the
> connection much, for example, reading a long web page, that the connection
> sometimes cuts out. I've had connections as long as an hour or so, which
> is impressive given I usually only use it on the train!

Try disabling PPP keepalives.

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Peter Corlett <abuse@dopiaza.cabal.org.uk> wrote:

> David Horne wrote:
> [...]
> > Sorry Rick, I have precisely the opposite experience. That is, when I'm
> > streaming radio, the connection is rock solid. It's when I'm not using the
> > connection much, for example, reading a long web page, that the connection
> > sometimes cuts out. I've had connections as long as an hour or so, which
> > is impressive given I usually only use it on the train!
>
> Try disabling PPP keepalives.

I'm not aware of any option like that though. (I'm using mac os x
10.4.6.)

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David Horne wrote:
> Peter Corlett <abuse@dopiaza.cabal.org.uk> wrote:
[...]
>> Try disabling PPP keepalives.
> I'm not aware of any option like that though. (I'm using mac os x 10.4.6.)

I don't have a Mac in front of me to check, but IIRC:

System Preferences -> Network -> PPP -> PPP Options -> Send PPP Echo
Packets.

.... which disables testing the link with LCP echoes. My P900 seems to
blackhole the requests and eventually the laptop thinks the PPP session has
dropped if this option is enabled and it hasn't received any IP packets for
a while.

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Peter Corlett <abuse@dopiaza.cabal.org.uk> wrote:

> David Horne wrote:
> > Peter Corlett <abuse@dopiaza.cabal.org.uk> wrote:
> [...]
> >> Try disabling PPP keepalives.
> > I'm not aware of any option like that though. (I'm using mac os x 10.4.6.)
>
> I don't have a Mac in front of me to check, but IIRC:
>
> System Preferences -> Network -> PPP -> PPP Options -> Send PPP Echo
> Packets.

Cheers! It was selected, I take it I deselect?

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