GPRS on Orange worth it?

I have a Nokia 6230 PAYG Orange, but have never used GPRS / WAP or email
features - wondered if anyone does and if it's worth setting up?
When I try to start a GPRS connection it just says "not setup"
It looks like I could send / receive email from my NTL account - but it goes
through Orange for some reason.
Do I have to call Orange customer service to enable this feature?
TIA

I would just double check with Orange that you are enabled for GPRS
then if you go their website you can get the settings sent to your
phone.

http://setup.orange.co.uk/

These settings are for users names passwords etc to access the GPRS
service. For email there are 2 key settings, the first is SMTP to send
email. SMTP is tightly controlled by all ISP's including mobile
telco's, this will be the Orange SMTP, smtp.orange.net. The second is
POP for receiving email, here you can put in your 'normal' email
settings, i.e. for NTL it is. pop.ntlworld.com.

Orange GPRS payg rate is £3 Mb so a simple email sent or received via
your phone should cost 1p.

Is it worth it? I think so. On New Year's I sent a picture attachment
of my wife and myself (fortunately I was in the background) to about a
dozen recipients wishing Happy New Year at a cost of 30p, a bit more
personal that a text, cheaper than sending to 12 people and quicker.
I've also sent pix from around the world e.g. the top of Ayres Rock
(full 5 bar GPRS signal) to a dozen recipients again cost 30p,
certainly less than the cost of one postcard. My friends enjoyed the
emailed pix as they got a daily travelog, although one did comment that
dragging herself off to work in the fog and rain in January was a bit
harder after getting an pic of us diving on the Barrier Reef.

Beware though Orange payg GPRS roaming is savage about £8 plus Mb. If
you can, unlock your phone and drop in a Virgin mobile SIM for roaming
access as it is a flat rate of £5 Mb UK or abroad. Check with Virgin
before you go that you can roam else set up direct debit, they will
only take out what you use.

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www.nokia.com/phones/6230i


http://europe.nokia.com/nokia/0,,71993,00.html

Order Settings

Step 1: Get standard settings


Includes settings for:


a.. Mobile browsing (WAP/GPRS settings)
b.. Multimedia messaging (MMS settings)
c.. Internet access point (Internet settings)
Optional Step 2: Get advanced settings


For selected phones/advanced users only. Includes standard settings and
settings for:


a.. Streaming
b.. Push to talk
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"GTS" <gts123SPAM-NO!@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:FeCeg.3863$002.1553@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a Nokia 6230 PAYG Orange, but have never used GPRS / WAP or email
> features - wondered if anyone does and if it's worth setting up?
> When I try to start a GPRS connection it just says "not setup"
> It looks like I could send / receive email from my NTL account - but it
> goes
> through Orange for some reason.
> Do I have to call Orange customer service to enable this feature?
> TIA
>
>

Thanks

Thanks

gts123SPAM-NO!@ntlworld.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I have a Nokia 6230 PAYG Orange, but have never used GPRS / WAP or email
> features - wondered if anyone does and if it's worth setting up?
> When I try to start a GPRS connection it just says "not setup"
> It looks like I could send / receive email from my NTL account - but it goes
> through Orange for some reason.
> Do I have to call Orange customer service to enable this feature?

If you bought your phone from Orange and are sing the SIM it came with
then you should not have any issues. If you have placed a SIM from an
old handset then you may need to contact CS to enable GPRS.

It sounds to me though like you don't even have the settings installed.
A quick visit to http://setup.orange.co.uk will remedy that. If it
doesn't work after you've installed the settings then you do need to
call customer services.
--
Regards
Jon

In article <1148916030.993685.135790@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
Zacnici@flashmail.com says...
>
> Orange GPRS payg rate is £3 Mb so a simple email sent or received via
> your phone should cost 1p.
>

There are extras which can reduce that considerably. One if £4 for 4Mb
which lasts a month. The other is unlimited use for one day for £1.

Well unless they've been simplified away recently that is.

Steve.

> If you bought your phone from Orange and are sing the SIM it came with
> then you should not have any issues. If you have placed a SIM from an
> old handset then you may need to contact CS to enable GPRS.
>
> It sounds to me though like you don't even have the settings installed.
> A quick visit to http://setup.orange.co.uk will remedy that. If it
> doesn't work after you've installed the settings then you do need to
> call customer services.
> --
> Regards
> Jon
Thank you to everyone for the advice.
I did use http://setup.orange.co.uk and got sent settings for GPRS and
Email. Actually it sent several sets of settings for both! Now for the
internet I have settings for:
Orange GPRS (that was already there)
Orange
Orange Internet
ntlworld (Orange GPRS)
Now the internet works with the second choice, 'Orange' -using GSM data, but
all the others use GPRS and a message comes up saying "Subscribe to GPRS
first"
I don't have a clue what the difference is between GSM and GPRS! GSM works
and does'nt seem to cost a lot - just the price of the call.
However my email does not work as it seems to need the GPRS - you cannot
change the data bearer to GSM....
So can email be enabled through the (working) GSM or do I have to contact
customer service to enable GPRS?

GTS wrote:
> I have a Nokia 6230 PAYG Orange, but have never used GPRS / WAP or email
> features - wondered if anyone does and if it's worth setting up?
> When I try to start a GPRS connection it just says "not setup"
> It looks like I could send / receive email from my NTL account - but it goes
> through Orange for some reason.
> Do I have to call Orange customer service to enable this feature?
> TIA
>
>
Dunno about everyone else but Orange GPRS only works about 50% of the
time from my SPV-C500 and PDA - if/when it starts to fail to login I
have to take the battery out of the phone for 10 mins and try again - at
which time it may or may not be working again. Drives me nuts.

gts123SPAM-NO!@ntlworld.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I don't have a clue what the difference is between GSM and GPRS! GSM works
> and does'nt seem to cost a lot - just the price of the call.

GPRS will be much cheaper to use in your circumstances.

> However my email does not work as it seems to need the GPRS - you cannot
> change the data bearer to GSM....
> So can email be enabled through the (working) GSM or do I have to contact
> customer service to enable GPRS?

Contact customer services and get it switched on.
--
Regards
Jon

On 29 May 2006 08:20:31 -0700, "zacnici" <Zacnici@flashmail.com>
wrote:

>I would just double check with Orange that you are enabled for GPRS
>then if you go their website you can get the settings sent to your
>phone.

....and be prepared to fight to get it enabled, it took me a dozen
calls over several days before I finally managed to get it enabled on
my phone/account/sim card.
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 12:59:17 GMT, "GTS" <gts123SPAM-NO!@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>I have a Nokia 6230 PAYG Orange, but have never used GPRS / WAP or email
>features - wondered if anyone does and if it's worth setting up?

Yes it is. You add an "extra" each day that gives you unlimited GPRS
till midnight. If you pick a time and place when Orange GPRS is
actually working, that's a good deal.

--

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GTS wrote:
....
> However my email does not work as it seems to need the GPRS - you cannot
> change the data bearer to GSM....
> So can email be enabled through the (working) GSM or do I have to contact
> customer service to enable GPRS?

Well you should be able to use both GPRS and GSM dialup, are you
talking about email OUT or email IN.

The settings for IN are the POP settings and should be the POP settings
of your current email address at NTLworld, they should be
pop.ntlworld.com
user name
password
These settings are the same if you are using both GPRS and dialup

For GPRS, the settings for the OUT are the SMTPsettings as provided by
Orange, you cannot use your NTLworld SMTP settings.

For Dialup the SMTP settings will be the ISP SMTP settings, i.e.
smtp.ntlworld.com

If you go abroad watch out, Orange roaming GPRS charges can be quite
savage. If your phone is unlocked get a Virgin and set up direct debit
(they only take out what you use) as they charge a flat rate of £5 Mb
in UK and abroad.

Regards