Re: Selling a phone on eBay (how to)

> >Don't offer a Buy it Now facility and don't accept any offers to end
> >the sale early.
>
> By all means use buy it now but put in the Immediate paypal payment
> required, Otherwise the scammer will buy it and you'll never get
> aping, just offers to pay you more and you send them the difference
> back..

Still ended the auction though

Peter wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:29:40 GMT, "Marcus Fox"
> <please-reply-via-newsgroup-th@-i-posted-to.com> wrote:
>
>
> Accepting cash from a local buyer is pretty much foolproof, but don't
> accept notes larger than fivers.


ROFL. It takes a muppet to not spot dodgy notes. It is very very very rare
to spot a fake that is even worth a second glance.

Whenever someone hands a note to you, turn the note right way up, so bank of
england is on top, run your finger and thumb along the top over the bank of
england, it should feel raised, almost like a layer of wax. The newer the
note, the greater the raised amount.

If it is flat, and a slightly older note, it doesnt mean it is fake, as they
can wear down, you can check the usual, such as watermark etc.

But, if the notes appear new, and the bank of england is smooth, then the
notes are fake.

You can check hundreds of pounds quite quickly without giving the appearance
you are checking them using this technique, get into the habit.

It is something i have always done. When in my distance past i worked as a
cashier, I would put several thousands of pounds of cash through my hands
every shift. I spotted many fakes but didnt accept a single one.

Gaz

On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 22:50:56 +0100, "Gaz" <gazter@msn.com> wrote:

>Peter wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:29:40 GMT, "Marcus Fox"
>> <please-reply-via-newsgroup-th@-i-posted-to.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Accepting cash from a local buyer is pretty much foolproof, but don't
>> accept notes larger than fivers.
>
>
>ROFL. It takes a muppet to not spot dodgy notes. It is very very very rare
>to spot a fake that is even worth a second glance.
>
>Whenever someone hands a note to you, turn the note right way up, so bank of
>england is on top, run your finger and thumb along the top over the bank of
>england, it should feel raised, almost like a layer of wax. The newer the
>note, the greater the raised amount.
>
>If it is flat, and a slightly older note, it doesnt mean it is fake, as they
>can wear down, you can check the usual, such as watermark etc.
>
>But, if the notes appear new, and the bank of england is smooth, then the
>notes are fake.
>
>You can check hundreds of pounds quite quickly without giving the appearance
>you are checking them using this technique, get into the habit.
>
>It is something i have always done. When in my distance past i worked as a
>cashier, I would put several thousands of pounds of cash through my hands
>every shift. I spotted many fakes but didnt accept a single one.
>
>Gaz
>

While I can't disagree with what you've writte, it's much easier to
only take fivers - fewer fivers are counterfieted - hence a smaller
chance of being stuffed by a handful of them.

--
Peter

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noel.wester@webtribe.net wrote:
> Matt Wheeler wrote:
>> For postage, at the minimum i'd suggest Royal Mail Special Delivery.
>
> For *anything* exceeding £32 in value (whether it's a mobile phone,
> some hookie pills or your girlfriend's used underwear), Special
> Delivery is compulsory.


Total bollox!
Irma

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hairydog@despammed.com wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:11:41 GMT, M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>
>> You could send a diamond worth over
>> a million quid (if there is a diamond of that value) if you wanted by
>> 2nd class post RM couldn't care less.
>
> A good few years ago, my brother sent me some simm memory - I think it
> was probably 128MB but I'm not sure. I do recall that it was worth
> £800. He put it in an ordinary and sent it first class. Arrived
> safely, but it was a bit of a risk: and £800 was an awful lot of money
> then!

Sounds like a tosspot to me.
Irma

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Marcus Fox wrote:
> I have a W810i I got as an upgrade. Would like to sell it on eBay. However,
> I would like to ask the group's opinion on several matters. I have sold
> several items on eBay before, but not really high value items and have not
> taken PayPal payments.
>
> Given the number of PayPal scams/chargebacks out there, I don't really want
> to accept PayPal. I notice a lot of other sellers of this phone do. Will it
> seriously affect the asking price if I ask them to send payment by
> cheque/postal order/bank transfer/direct deposit instead?
>
> Say I were to accept PayPal. I have an account that allows me to send money
> free through my credit card (although I am approaching my spend limit). Do I
> need to do anything to the account to allow people to send me money? Any
> limits? What charges (if any) will be levied on my account if I were to do
> this?
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Marcus

No problem taking Paypal (scumpal), but make sure you send it
recorded/insured and take the money out of Scumpal straight away.
Irma

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Simon Dobson wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>> Paypal is OK, but for reassurance you may wish to only accept a cheque
>> drawn on a UK bank. This means you can wait for the funds to clear
>> before releasing the phone, that you have the name and address of the
>> purchaser, so you can, if necessary, check the electoral
>> roll/telephone directory etc
>
> I understood banks can still bounce cheques after they've cleared?

No.
Irma

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Marcus Fox wrote:
> I have a W810i I got as an upgrade. Would like to sell it on eBay. However,
> I would like to ask the group's opinion on several matters. I have sold
> several items on eBay before, but not really high value items and have not
> taken PayPal payments.
>
> Given the number of PayPal scams/chargebacks out there, I don't really want
> to accept PayPal. I notice a lot of other sellers of this phone do. Will it
> seriously affect the asking price if I ask them to send payment by
> cheque/postal order/bank transfer/direct deposit instead?
>
> Say I were to accept PayPal. I have an account that allows me to send money
> free through my credit card (although I am approaching my spend limit). Do I
> need to do anything to the account to allow people to send me money? Any
> limits? What charges (if any) will be levied on my account if I were to do
> this?
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Marcus

You could take the phone to a local "agent" (or whatever Ebay calls
them) and ask them to sell it for you (they charge a commission).
Probably be worth it for a Clueless Clive like yourself.
Irma

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"Irma Troll" <troll@troll.com> wrote in message
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> Simon Dobson wrote:
> > Peter wrote:
> >> Paypal is OK, but for reassurance you may wish to only accept a cheque
> >> drawn on a UK bank. This means you can wait for the funds to clear
> >> before releasing the phone, that you have the name and address of the
> >> purchaser, so you can, if necessary, check the electoral
> >> roll/telephone directory etc
> >
> > I understood banks can still bounce cheques after they've cleared?

Yes they can, if the cheque is reported stolen.

Marcus

Irma Troll wrote:
>
> No problem taking Paypal (scumpal), but make sure you send it
> recorded/insured and take the money out of Scumpal straight away.
> Irma

PayPal could still do a chargeback on the amount.. So you either end up
owing them money (which granted, you need never pay I suppose) or
they'll just take it off whatever credit/debit card you have registered
with them.

M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> I send anything over £ 50.00 via Business post I like to know it is
> going to get where ever it is going in a speedy fashion and do not
> even thing about RM for expensive items .
> 800.00 may have been a lot of money then but now it only about two
> weeks pay for a lot of people .

It's likely about a months pay for the postie that could've nicked it.

Peter wrote:
>
> I find bank transfers a little long winded - I bank with HSBC and
> unless the purchaser also banks there it can take up to 5 days for the
> funds to arrive - it's certainly not as instantaneous as it will be
> when someone invents the computer and people can transfer funds
> electronically :-)

Well that's another thread altogether Sure bank transfers can take a
few days, but if you're talking time to physically get your hands on the
cash they're quicker than both PayPal and cheques. If they bank at the
same place as you, they should be instantaneous.

But speed aside, I believe bank transfers are the safest way of doing
things if you want to make sure you hold onto your money.

Simon Dobson wrote:
> Irma Troll wrote:
>> No problem taking Paypal (scumpal), but make sure you send it
>> recorded/insured and take the money out of Scumpal straight away.
>> Irma
>
> PayPal could still do a chargeback on the amount.. So you either end up
> owing them money (which granted, you need never pay I suppose) or
> they'll just take it off whatever credit/debit card you have registered
> with them.

I don't think they are able to debit your registered card without your
permission.
Irma

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Irma Troll wrote:
> Simon Dobson wrote:
>> Irma Troll wrote:
>>> No problem taking Paypal (scumpal), but make sure you send it
>>> recorded/insured and take the money out of Scumpal straight away.
>>> Irma
>>
>> PayPal could still do a chargeback on the amount.. So you either end up
>> owing them money (which granted, you need never pay I suppose) or
>> they'll just take it off whatever credit/debit card you have registered
>> with them.
>
> I don't think they are able to debit your registered card without your
> permission.
> Irma

I'm pretty sure you give them that permission when you sign up with
them. It'll be in their T&C's likely, perhaps someone can confirm who
knows about these things?

"Simon Dobson" <replytogroup@nospam.domain.invalid> wrote in message
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> Peter wrote:
>>
>> I find bank transfers a little long winded - I bank with HSBC and
>> unless the purchaser also banks there it can take up to 5 days for
>> the
>> funds to arrive - it's certainly not as instantaneous as it will be
>> when someone invents the computer and people can transfer funds
>> electronically :-)
>
> Well that's another thread altogether Sure bank transfers can
> take a
> few days, but if you're talking time to physically get your hands on
> the
> cash they're quicker than both PayPal and cheques. If they bank at
> the
> same place as you, they should be instantaneous.
>
> But speed aside, I believe bank transfers are the safest way of
> doing
> things if you want to make sure you hold onto your money.
>

Safest for the seller, certainly.
But bank transfer only could well deter buyers, as it also means that
if there is a problem or the seller isn't legit, there is no mechanism
for them to get some/all of their money back.