Orange SPV M600

Hi,

Simple enough question.... anyone who owns one of these care to share there
opinions?.

Cheers!

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John Smith wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Simple enough question.... anyone who owns one of these care to share there
> opinions?.
>
> Cheers!
>

Paid £20 via imei-check.co.uk to unlock it, but the processor's too
slow for me (195 mhz) - moving down pdf documents etc it's too slow to
be able to use properly. Also I haven't found a quick way of being able
to display just one category of contacts. The default grey number pad
for dialling from is ok if you're inside, but outside, it's difficult
to see and looks awful - any way of changing this?

Also Orange seem to have removed the screen lock facility (available on
the T-Mobile MDA Compact ii) - but to be fair this wasn't available on
the SPV M500 either.

In short, I've gone back to using my trusty SPV M500 (416 mhz
processor) - I just use the SPV M600 without a sim in the house if I
want to check anything quickly on the net.

Also, don't know if it's a bloke thing, but the minute I touch the SPV
M600, it gets all sweaty (unlike any other phone I've owned).

I only got it because I walked into an Orange shop and they offered it
to me free on my £19 per month tariff (due to me being on a £55
tariff until three months ago when I jumped ship to T-Mobile
Web'n'Walk), gave me 10% discount plus £50 for an old Motorola v2288e!
I'm really waiting for the HTC Trinity with 3g etc...

Regards

Simon Clark
Business Telecoms

Seven weeks living with an Orange spv m600 after a Nokia 6310i /Palm
pair (TungstenT then, briefly a T3 after i broke the TT).

2 weeks in
Finally got it synching at work yesterday. Firewall issues meant
finding a registry editor that hadn't been blocked by orange and
editing the registry. Still a bit flaky and works better with an app
called usb switch that turns on 'serial' rather than rndis mode.-
battery life better than expected. Looks like I'll get a good few days
plus the fact that it charges when synching helps
- needs some 3rd party apps. I installed a better diary/tasks app
(PIM) and a home page app for better info on missed calls. They look
like making it a lot more usable.
- having the speaker on the back means ring isnt as loud as it could be
(should have been on the side)
- still cant see colour screesn easily in sunlight but this one *is*
better than any other I've seen
- text recognition is good (block recogniser is closer to old graffiti
that the graffiti 2 that new palms use)
- web browser is good
- wifi is handy and works well
- synch is excllent for calendar and contacts but poor for notes
(doesn't sort into categories). Update - *terrible for notes*. You
can set up folders on the phone with the same names as the categories
in Outlook and then move the notes into them which makes things easier
to find BUT it means anything you create in outlook then needs manually
moving to the right folder on the device and vice versa.
- flashing led is both good and bad. It flashes green to tell you it's
on in phone mode (why does it need to flash - it's annoying?). Flashes
orange if theres a message/alert/reminder. given the screen dims as on
all colour devices) the feedback from the flashing is good but since
the light is at the top on the front you don't see it if you use a
case.

Three weeks in
Having PROPER outlook sych is a revelation. (I installed the new palm
synch software for the Tungsten T3 I had for the last month or so - it
didn't take the meeting location field across from outlook!!! Can you
believe that? A device that tells you that you've a meeting but omits
the location!). Full meeting details with attendees and notes. Great.

Overall device responsiveness is pretty poor - way slower than a Palm
T3 or even a TT. In some ways feels less responsive than a Palm V

Search (as on all microsoft desktop apps) is terrible - over a minute
to search my 800 contacts. Strangely enough the third party
replacement PIM could do the same search in about 3 seconds (but it
doesn't search the notes fields so not so clever after all). I don't
know how microsoft have got this so wrong in everything - Outlook needs
a third party tool to enable effective searching, win media player
takes an age longer than iTunes, on page search is integrated and
instant in Firefox vs popup box in IE.

Microsofts approach to directories continues to infuriate. The OS
should be thoroughly hidden unless I want to see it - mixing ringtones
and graphics in with dll and cab files just stupid.

3rd party app I've installed called 'phone alarm' is excellent- gives a
display showing missed calls. Voicemails, texts etc (which are
inexplicabally hard to get to with the core OS) plus simple profile
switching (again, not obvious in the OS) which can be made very
sophisticated (profile to switch automatically based on time, meeting
status or even potentially which cell your phone is using!). A bit
buggy though - it repeatedly bugs you with notifications even if you
dismiss them and then conversely can remove things like the voicemail
notification when you've still not listened to the messages.

Five weeks in
Phone seems to take a long time to pick up missed calls and voicemails
- the alerts seem to suddenly appear 10 minutes later. Not the best.

Getting quite irritated with the thing now. Currently thinking it's
neither a brilliant phone nor a PDA. Somehow I keep knocking or
fiddling with the volume control on the side and turning the ringer
off. I like the 'vibrate then ring' option on the ringer though.

Coming up to 8 weeks

Just stuck my main SIM card back in my 6310i. it feels so good in my
hand, comfortable against my ear. The sound quality is better. It
fits in my pocket comfortably.

For the time being I'm just going to be using the m600 as a pda with a
PAYG sim. The email and web browser are pretty good. I'm miss the
text message interface - I wonder if it's possible to write texts on
the m600 and send them via my 6310 or dial numbers from the contact
list (my old TT was pretty good at that).

I'd really like a palm again. The simple interface, the
responsiveness. Palm just need a few minor revisions - proper synch
with outlook (with the meeting location - using pocketmirror for 50usd
is an option but it shouldn't need to be), full synch of notes fields
of meetings and contacts. I wonder how well the Treo 650 works as a
phone.

[email protected] wrote:
Also I haven't found a quick way of being able
> to display just one category of contacts. The default grey number pad
> for dialling from is ok if you're inside, but outside, it's difficult
> to see and looks awful - any way of changing this?

the orange 'theme' is completely unusable in daylight. have a search
on the htc prophet forum on modaco.com - you can switch back to the
"white on blue" windows default for the phone by changing a registry
setting.

[email protected] declared for all the world to
hear...
> Hi,
>
> Simple enough question.... anyone who owns one of these care to share there
> opinions?.

Was a bit miffed to discover yesterday that it doesn't ship with MSN
messenger pre-loaded.
--
Regards
Jon

AJ wrote:
> Seven weeks living with an Orange spv m600 after a Nokia 6310i /Palm
> pair (TungstenT then, briefly a T3 after i broke the TT).
> I'd really like a palm again. The simple interface, the
> responsiveness. Palm just need a few minor revisions - proper synch
> with outlook (with the meeting location - using pocketmirror for 50usd
> is an option but it shouldn't need to be), full synch of notes fields
> of meetings and contacts. I wonder how well the Treo 650 works as a
> phone.

Treo 650 works a treat as a phone. I've had mine for about a year, and
a Treo 600 before that. Only major omission is wifi, otherwise it'd be
perfect (well.... apart from crashing, having a creaking battery cover
etc).

Nick

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John Smith wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Simple enough question.... anyone who owns one of these care to share
> there
> opinions?.
>
> Cheers!
>


Search for omapclock.. which overclocks the processors on these very well.
mine can run at 260+ mhz and its much better. It slows to normal speed when
you put on standby too so you can still benefit from the new processors
better battery life than the M500.

Screen lock is there if you turn off the orange today screen and put the
normal stuff back on.. under settings>today

> In short, I've gone back to using my trusty SPV M500 (416 mhz
> processor) - I just use the SPV M600 without a sim in the house if I
> want to check anything quickly on the net.

Well the M600 is better at that too when overclocked as more RAM is
available over the M500..

M600 is better for non-stylus use too, and has proper voice dial so better
for phone use.

I prefer it by miles to the M500, never crashes like M500 and doesnt have
the silly usb flap.

Dave

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:09:52 GMT, "Dave" <no.spam@me> wrote:

>Search for omapclock.. which overclocks the processors on these very well.
>mine can run at 260+ mhz and its much better. It slows to normal speed when
>you put on standby too so you can still benefit from the new processors
>better battery life than the M500.


Does this work on the SPV 550 ?
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no real use but it makes you smile when they fall down stairs!

>>Search for omapclock.. which overclocks the processors on these very well.
>>mine can run at 260+ mhz and its much better. It slows to normal speed
>>when
>>you put on standby too so you can still benefit from the new processors
>>better battery life than the M500.
>
>
> Does this work on the SPV 550 ?
> --
>
>

Don't know, but a quick google shows people have done on the c600...

http://www.modaco.com/OmapClock-t236252.html

But I must stress that you musn't hold me responsible for anything ;-) It
works fine for me but beware the usual overclocking recommendations to try
it up one frequency change at a time.. if it crashes or reboots itself you
know that speed is too much for *your* CPU. Mine runs fine at 264 but I only
overclock infrequently... when it frustrates me!

This takes me back to when 200MHz cpus were in PCs and were the bottleneck!
Windows 95! And the next CPU model up was another £200!

Good luck!

"AJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Seven weeks living with an Orange spv m600 after a Nokia 6310i /Palm
> pair (TungstenT then, briefly a T3 after i broke the TT).
>
> 2 weeks in
> Finally got it synching at work yesterday. Firewall issues meant
> finding a registry editor that hadn't been blocked by orange and
> editing the registry. Still a bit flaky and works better with an app
> called usb switch that turns on 'serial' rather than rndis mode.-
> battery life better than expected. Looks like I'll get a good few days
> plus the fact that it charges when synching helps
> - needs some 3rd party apps. I installed a better diary/tasks app
> (PIM) and a home page app for better info on missed calls. They look
> like making it a lot more usable.
> - having the speaker on the back means ring isnt as loud as it could be
> (should have been on the side)
> - still cant see colour screesn easily in sunlight but this one *is*
> better than any other I've seen
> - text recognition is good (block recogniser is closer to old graffiti
> that the graffiti 2 that new palms use)
> - web browser is good
> - wifi is handy and works well
> - synch is excllent for calendar and contacts but poor for notes
> (doesn't sort into categories). Update - *terrible for notes*. You
> can set up folders on the phone with the same names as the categories
> in Outlook and then move the notes into them which makes things easier
> to find BUT it means anything you create in outlook then needs manually
> moving to the right folder on the device and vice versa.
> - flashing led is both good and bad. It flashes green to tell you it's
> on in phone mode (why does it need to flash - it's annoying?). Flashes
> orange if theres a message/alert/reminder. given the screen dims as on
> all colour devices) the feedback from the flashing is good but since
> the light is at the top on the front you don't see it if you use a
> case.
>
> Three weeks in
> Having PROPER outlook sych is a revelation. (I installed the new palm
> synch software for the Tungsten T3 I had for the last month or so - it
> didn't take the meeting location field across from outlook!!! Can you
> believe that? A device that tells you that you've a meeting but omits
> the location!). Full meeting details with attendees and notes. Great.
>
> Overall device responsiveness is pretty poor - way slower than a Palm
> T3 or even a TT. In some ways feels less responsive than a Palm V
>
> Search (as on all microsoft desktop apps) is terrible - over a minute
> to search my 800 contacts. Strangely enough the third party
> replacement PIM could do the same search in about 3 seconds (but it
> doesn't search the notes fields so not so clever after all). I don't
> know how microsoft have got this so wrong in everything - Outlook needs
> a third party tool to enable effective searching, win media player
> takes an age longer than iTunes, on page search is integrated and
> instant in Firefox vs popup box in IE.
>
> Microsofts approach to directories continues to infuriate. The OS
> should be thoroughly hidden unless I want to see it - mixing ringtones
> and graphics in with dll and cab files just stupid.
>
> 3rd party app I've installed called 'phone alarm' is excellent- gives a
> display showing missed calls. Voicemails, texts etc (which are
> inexplicabally hard to get to with the core OS) plus simple profile
> switching (again, not obvious in the OS) which can be made very
> sophisticated (profile to switch automatically based on time, meeting
> status or even potentially which cell your phone is using!). A bit
> buggy though - it repeatedly bugs you with notifications even if you
> dismiss them and then conversely can remove things like the voicemail
> notification when you've still not listened to the messages.
>
> Five weeks in
> Phone seems to take a long time to pick up missed calls and voicemails
> - the alerts seem to suddenly appear 10 minutes later. Not the best.
>
> Getting quite irritated with the thing now. Currently thinking it's
> neither a brilliant phone nor a PDA. Somehow I keep knocking or
> fiddling with the volume control on the side and turning the ringer
> off. I like the 'vibrate then ring' option on the ringer though.
>
> Coming up to 8 weeks
>
> Just stuck my main SIM card back in my 6310i. it feels so good in my
> hand, comfortable against my ear. The sound quality is better. It
> fits in my pocket comfortably.
>
> For the time being I'm just going to be using the m600 as a pda with a
> PAYG sim. The email and web browser are pretty good. I'm miss the
> text message interface - I wonder if it's possible to write texts on
> the m600 and send them via my 6310 or dial numbers from the contact
> list (my old TT was pretty good at that).
>
> I'd really like a palm again. The simple interface, the
> responsiveness. Palm just need a few minor revisions - proper synch
> with outlook (with the meeting location - using pocketmirror for 50usd
> is an option but it shouldn't need to be), full synch of notes fields
> of meetings and contacts. I wonder how well the Treo 650 works as a
> phone.
>

Thanks for the comprehensive reply

FYI i decided on the Nokia E61 it's big but..... its ummmm "fully featured!"

John Smith wrote:
> FYI i decided on the Nokia E61 it's big but..... its ummmm "fully featured!"

I'm seriously looking at that phone - i'll be interested to hear how it
performs so can you post something when you've had a good play.

Most importantly, how good is the outlook sych? (as you'll see from my
post i use notes, todos, calendar and contacts). Nokia's pc sych
software always used to be appalling - a bug ridden nightmare that was
basically unusable to the extent that on the 6310i i found it easier to
sit and beam 100 odd contacts from my palm pilot to the phone rather
than try to get them from my PC.

You may be interested in something like the software from Nexthaus
that provides an alternative to Nokia's own software