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Old 08-18-2006, 05:05 PM   #1
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If a mobile has no/poor reception would the person phoning it hear a ringing signal?


Hi, I have a slightly techie question re. mobile phones. If I am trying
to phone someone who is on the O2 network and they are in an area that
is out of range of the base stations or whatever the correct term is,
then would I hear a ringing tone on my phone or would I get a message
saying something like "not able to connect you" etc.?

Any info on this gratefully received

A



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Old 08-18-2006, 05:35 PM   #2
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<admyc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155938750.532965.48910@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi, I have a slightly techie question re. mobile phones. If I am trying
> to phone someone who is on the O2 network and they are in an area that
> is out of range of the base stations or whatever the correct term is,
> then would I hear a ringing tone on my phone or would I get a message
> saying something like "not able to connect you" etc.?
>
> Any info on this gratefully received


On vodafone it would ring twice regardless before going to answerphone, but
it' a fake ring, because the call's already been answered.

If someone doesn't use answerphone service on any network, it will just give
you a message mobile unreachable, etc. No ringing.


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Old 08-18-2006, 06:23 PM   #3
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Thus spaketh admyc@hotmail.com:
> Hi, I have a slightly techie question re. mobile phones. If I am
> trying to phone someone who is on the O2 network and they are in an
> area that is out of range of the base stations or whatever the
> correct term is, then would I hear a ringing tone on my phone or
> would I get a message saying something like "not able to connect you"
> etc.?
>
> Any info on this gratefully received
>
> A


When out of signal area you will get "...phone currently unavailable"
if after being out of signal for about 20mins or more it will say
"...phone switched off", even if phone isn't switched off.

Vodafone give slightly different messages.


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Old 08-19-2006, 05:23 AM   #4
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David R wrote:
> <admyc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1155938750.532965.48910@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > Hi, I have a slightly techie question re. mobile phones. If I am trying
> > to phone someone who is on the O2 network and they are in an area that
> > is out of range of the base stations or whatever the correct term is,
> > then would I hear a ringing tone on my phone or would I get a message
> > saying something like "not able to connect you" etc.?
> >
> > Any info on this gratefully received

>
> On vodafone it would ring twice regardless before going to answerphone, but
> it' a fake ring, because the call's already been answered.
>
> If someone doesn't use answerphone service on any network, it will just give
> you a message mobile unreachable, etc. No ringing.


Thanks for your quick reply.

The reason I asked is because my girlfriend often says she is going to
a friend's house and says that I might not be able to get hold of her
because her friend's house is in a poor reception area and in some
rooms of the house she can get a signal and in others she can't (the
house is of average size). But when I phone her when she says she is
there I still hear a ringing sound and I can let it ring for many rings
and it carries on ringing (i.e. no answerphone) but she would still
claim that it's because of the poor reception. Therefore how certain
are you that it would be as you described, and is there any way it
might ring if the reception is as my girlfriend says it is?

Thanks again

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Old 08-19-2006, 07:34 AM   #5
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admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi, I have a slightly techie question re. mobile phones. If I am trying
> to phone someone who is on the O2 network and they are in an area that
> is out of range of the base stations or whatever the correct term is,
> then would I hear a ringing tone on my phone or would I get a message
> saying something like "not able to connect you" etc.?


This seems to vary a lot. If you have no voicemail, then there seems
to be about a 50% split between ringing indefinitely or a voice
announcement "It has not been possible to connect your call"

If voicemail is enabled, then it seems to go straight to voicemail
without an intermediate ringing phase.

Some of our company phones are on t-mobile, and those all seem to say
"It has not been possible to conenct your call". The ones on O2 seem
to display the variability. I have also occasionally had just pure
silence.

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Old 08-19-2006, 08:26 AM   #6
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Thus spaketh robertharvey@my-deja.com:
> admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Hi, I have a slightly techie question re. mobile phones. If I am
>> trying to phone someone who is on the O2 network and they are in an
>> area that is out of range of the base stations or whatever the
>> correct term is, then would I hear a ringing tone on my phone or
>> would I get a message saying something like "not able to connect
>> you" etc.?

>
> This seems to vary a lot. If you have no voicemail, then there seems
> to be about a 50% split between ringing indefinitely or a voice
> announcement "It has not been possible to connect your call"
>
> If voicemail is enabled, then it seems to go straight to voicemail
> without an intermediate ringing phase.
>
> Some of our company phones are on t-mobile, and those all seem to say
> "It has not been possible to conenct your call". The ones on O2 seem
> to display the variability. I have also occasionally had just pure
> silence.


I usually find pure silence for about 20+ seconds if it the first time
someone has tried to call the phone whilst it has not long gone to no
signal, then once the system realises it can't reach the phone it states
that it's not been possible, then further tries to the number don't take
quite so long before been told as such.


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Old 08-19-2006, 10:39 AM   #7
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<admyc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155983014.122426.44650@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> The reason I asked is because my girlfriend often says she is going to
> a friend's house and says that I might not be able to get hold of her
> because her friend's house is in a poor reception area and in some
> rooms of the house she can get a signal and in others she can't (the
> house is of average size). But when I phone her when she says she is
> there I still hear a ringing sound and I can let it ring for many rings
> and it carries on ringing (i.e. no answerphone) but she would still
> claim that it's because of the poor reception. Therefore how certain
> are you that it would be as you described, and is there any way it
> might ring if the reception is as my girlfriend says it is?
>
> Thanks again


I'd talk to her about it first, but at the end of the day if it's ringing
out, then it's ringing at her end, perhaps on silent or not, but still -
it's ringing.

If it just stays completely silent with no ringing, then you should probably
be hearing a 'sorry we cannot connect your call currently' message, but
sometimes things don't work properly. The ringing is pretty definitive
though, it only rings continuosly when it's ringing on their phone.


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Old 08-19-2006, 10:41 AM   #8
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<admyc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Therefore how certain
> are you that it would be as you described, and is there any way it
> might ring if the reception is as my girlfriend says it is?
>
> Thanks again


It's not as your bird says; I'm categorically certain (good word, eh?) that
you would not hear continuous ringing unless it was ringing at her end. You
could really just shove it in a tin box, and ring it, then see what happens.
Sounds like she's fibbing though, but don't jump to conclusions until you
test it yourself with her phone in an area with no coverage, ie: biscuit
tin.


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Old 08-19-2006, 06:58 PM   #9
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In message <DiGFg.4205$2w1.3545@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, David R
<david_r@ntlworld.com> writes
><admyc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1155983014.122426.44650@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>Therefore how certain
>> are you that it would be as you described, and is there any way it
>> might ring if the reception is as my girlfriend says it is?


>It's not as your bird says; I'm categorically certain (good word, eh?) that
>you would not hear continuous ringing unless it was ringing at her end. You
>could really just shove it in a tin box, and ring it, then see what happens.
>Sounds like she's fibbing though, but don't jump to conclusions until you
>test it yourself with her phone in an area with no coverage, ie: biscuit
>tin.


Strange things can happen, so let's not burn her at the stake quite yet.

But as he needs to ask the question, it appears admyc@hotmail.com is
suspicions something's up.

It might be a good idea to send her a text message and request an
automatic delivery report. Receiving the delivery report would indicate
the mobile is on and within coverage, however in dodge areas a text
message may be more likely to get through than a phone call.

People often complain to me that I don't answer my phone or reply to
text messages in a prompt way. Not surprising, really, because such
things tend to be low down on my list of priorities, below eating and
watching TV.
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Old 08-20-2006, 11:55 AM   #10
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> It might be a good idea to send her a text message and request an
> automatic delivery report. Receiving the delivery report would indicate
> the mobile is on and within coverage, however in dodge areas a text
> message may be more likely to get through than a phone call.
>


> Martin Jay
> Phone/SMS: +44 7740 191877
> Fax: +44 870 915 2124


How do I request an automatic delivery report when I send a text
message? I have never done this before and don't know if is even
possible with my contract. I am on O2 pay monthly. I have a Nokia 6230.

Thanks

A

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Old 08-20-2006, 01:36 PM   #11
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<admyc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> How do I request an automatic delivery report when I send a text
> message? I have never done this before and don't know if is even
> possible with my contract. I am on O2 pay monthly. I have a Nokia 6230.
>
> Thanks


Insert the following at the start of your message *0#

That's star, zero, hash.

ie:

*0#hi it's me, just saying hi, ya beatch.


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Old 08-25-2006, 04:35 PM   #12
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David R wrote:
> <admyc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1156092922.119888.298140@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> > How do I request an automatic delivery report when I send a text
> > message? I have never done this before and don't know if is even
> > possible with my contract. I am on O2 pay monthly. I have a Nokia 6230.
> >
> > Thanks

>
> Insert the following at the start of your message *0#
>
> That's star, zero, hash.
>
> ie:
>
> *0#hi it's me, just saying hi, ya beatch.


Thanks for that, I'll try it but will she see the *0# in the message
she receives and wonder what it is?

Also I was wondering what you make of what roberthar...@my-deja.com had
to say (see above dated Sat, Aug 19 2006) when he said that
'This seems to vary a lot. If you have no voicemail, then there seems
to be about a 50% split between ringing indefinitely or a voice
announcement "It has not been possible to connect your call"'

Also it has just happened again (same scenario -"off at friend's with
poor reception") and it rang 21 times from my landline and then I got
the message "Sorry there is no reply". I really don't want to get
susspicious if there could be a legit reason!

Thanks

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Old 08-25-2006, 04:42 PM   #13
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On 19 Aug 2006 03:23:34 -0700, admyc@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>David R wrote:
>> <admyc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1155938750.532965.48910@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> > Hi, I have a slightly techie question re. mobile phones. If I am trying
>> > to phone someone who is on the O2 network and they are in an area that
>> > is out of range of the base stations or whatever the correct term is,
>> > then would I hear a ringing tone on my phone or would I get a message
>> > saying something like "not able to connect you" etc.?
>> >
>> > Any info on this gratefully received

>>
>> On vodafone it would ring twice regardless before going to answerphone, but
>> it' a fake ring, because the call's already been answered.
>>
>> If someone doesn't use answerphone service on any network, it will just give
>> you a message mobile unreachable, etc. No ringing.

>
>Thanks for your quick reply.
>
>The reason I asked is because my girlfriend often says she is going to
>a friend's house and says that I might not be able to get hold of her
>because her friend's house is in a poor reception area and in some
>rooms of the house she can get a signal and in others she can't (the
>house is of average size). But when I phone her when she says she is
>there I still hear a ringing sound and I can let it ring for many rings
>and it carries on ringing (i.e. no answerphone) but she would still
>claim that it's because of the poor reception. Therefore how certain
>are you that it would be as you described, and is there any way it
>might ring if the reception is as my girlfriend says it is?
>
>Thanks again


Girls sometimes want to be with their mates, it doesnt mean they are
shagging anyone else. Sorry for non tecie reply, but there are other
news groups, such as soc.girlfriend. lying, that this guy should be in
:-)
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Old 08-26-2006, 04:37 AM   #14
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admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> Also I was wondering what you make of what roberthar...@my-deja.com had
> to say (see above dated Sat, Aug 19 2006) when he said that
> 'This seems to vary a lot. If you have no voicemail, then there seems
> to be about a 50% split between ringing indefinitely or a voice
> announcement "It has not been possible to connect your call"'


That's incorrect. If the phone is not in coverage then it isn't going
to ring indefinitely.

Andrew Woodvine

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