Basic question about handset names

Is the Orange M3100 the same as the T-Mobile Vario II? The O2 XDA Mini
S is the previous version, though, right (equivalent to the Orange
M3000 which wasn't released in the UK)?

Nick

NickD wrote:
> Is the Orange M3100 the same as the T-Mobile Vario II? The O2 XDA Mini
> S is the previous version, though, right (equivalent to the Orange
> M3000 which wasn't released in the UK)?

The M3100, the Vario II, the O2 XDA Trion and the Vodafone Qtek HTC are
all brand names for the HTC Hermes. The XDA Mini S is a brand name for
the HTC Wizard, which is also branded as the Orange M3000 and the
T-Mobile MDA Vario.

This page tells you far more than you could ever want to know about
Taiwanese OEM smartphone models:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Te...Phone_Editions

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

John B wrote:
> NickD wrote:
>> Is the Orange M3100 the same as the T-Mobile Vario II? The O2 XDA Mini
>> S is the previous version, though, right (equivalent to the Orange
>> M3000 which wasn't released in the UK)?
>
> The M3100, the Vario II, the O2 XDA Trion and the Vodafone Qtek HTC are
> all brand names for the HTC Hermes. The XDA Mini S is a brand name for
> the HTC Wizard, which is also branded as the Orange M3000 and the
> T-Mobile MDA Vario.
>
> This page tells you far more than you could ever want to know about
> Taiwanese OEM smartphone models:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Te...Phone_Editions

To further complicate matters, there are 2 versions of the HTC Hermes,
but these are just cosmetic differences to do with button
shapes/locations etc.

For example: http://www.cnet.co.uk/story_media/49282881/HTC.jpg

D

> The M3100, the Vario II, the O2 XDA Trion and the Vodafone Qtek HTC are
> all brand names for the HTC Hermes. The XDA Mini S is a brand name for
> the HTC Wizard, which is also branded as the Orange M3000 and the
> T-Mobile MDA Vario.
>
> This page tells you far more than you could ever want to know about
> Taiwanese OEM smartphone models:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Te...Phone_Editions
>

Thanks John. And you're finding your Vario II to be good?

btw - anyone know whether there's yet a VOIP client for this particular
handset? And specifically, one that would work over Wifi through (for
example) a home network?

Nick

NickD wrote:
> > The M3100, the Vario II, the O2 XDA Trion and the Vodafone Qtek HTC are
> > all brand names for the HTC Hermes. The XDA Mini S is a brand name for
> > the HTC Wizard, which is also branded as the Orange M3000 and the
> > T-Mobile MDA Vario.
> >
> > This page tells you far more than you could ever want to know about
> > Taiwanese OEM smartphone models:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Te...Phone_Editions
> >
> Thanks John. And you're finding your Vario II to be good?

Haven't received it yet - only ordered it yesterday afternoon ;-)

I did quite a bit of research before ordering, though: the general
consensus among reviewers was that the Wizard/Vario I was a great
handheld computer but a lousy phone, and that the Hermes/Vario II
addresses most of the Wizard's phone shortcomings. I'll happily let you
know what I think of it when it arrives...

> btw - anyone know whether there's yet a VOIP client for this particular
> handset? And specifically, one that would work over Wifi through (for
> example) a home network?

Not sure. It's worth noting, as you may already have done, that Web &
Walk explicitly bars VOIP from your unlimited web access (obviously
this doen't affect local WLANs).

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

NickD wrote:
>> The M3100, the Vario II, the O2 XDA Trion and the Vodafone Qtek HTC are
>> all brand names for the HTC Hermes. The XDA Mini S is a brand name for
>> the HTC Wizard, which is also branded as the Orange M3000 and the
>> T-Mobile MDA Vario.
>>
>> This page tells you far more than you could ever want to know about
>> Taiwanese OEM smartphone models:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Te...Phone_Editions
>>
>
> Thanks John. And you're finding your Vario II to be good?
>
> btw - anyone know whether there's yet a VOIP client for this particular
> handset? And specifically, one that would work over Wifi through (for
> example) a home network?

You mean like Skype? http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/mobile/

D

> You mean like Skype? http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/mobile/

er..... yeah, just like that... ;c) Being able to run it over WiFi
would be a huge bonus though, as otherwise it kind of negates the value
of VoIP (free interweb access on T-mobile excludes VoIP, as John B just
said).

In article <1158144398.289284.27940@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups. com>, NickD says...
>
>
>> The M3100, the Vario II, the O2 XDA Trion and the Vodafone Qtek HTC are
>> all brand names for the HTC Hermes. The XDA Mini S is a brand name for
>> the HTC Wizard, which is also branded as the Orange M3000 and the
>> T-Mobile MDA Vario.
>>
>> This page tells you far more than you could ever want to know about
>> Taiwanese OEM smartphone models:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Te...Phone_Editions
>>
>
>Thanks John. And you're finding your Vario II to be good?

I like mine - the only thing I'd change is the O.S. - I much prefer Symbian to
Windows Mobile. But it's a great handset - and there's nothing "wrong" with
Windows Mobile as such, it's just a bit, er, clunky.

>btw - anyone know whether there's yet a VOIP client for this particular
>handset? And specifically, one that would work over Wifi through (for
>example) a home network?

Yes, it's called Skype. You may have heard of it

NickD wrote:
> > You mean like Skype? http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/mobile/
>
> er..... yeah, just like that... ;c) Being able to run it over WiFi
> would be a huge bonus though

....again, just like Skype. D'oh!

NickD wrote:
> NickD wrote:
>>> You mean like Skype? http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/mobile/
>> er..... yeah, just like that... ;c) Being able to run it over WiFi
>> would be a huge bonus though
>
> ...again, just like Skype. D'oh!

Yeah, Skype supports only doing it over WiFi and not using your GPRS
connection.

D

David Hearn wrote:
> NickD wrote:
>> NickD wrote:
>>>> You mean like Skype?
>>>> http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/mobile/
>>> er..... yeah, just like that... ;c) Being able to run it over WiFi
>>> would be a huge bonus though
>>
>> ...again, just like Skype. D'oh!
>
> Yeah, Skype supports only doing it over WiFi and not using your GPRS
> connection.
>
> D

That wasn't very clear. Skype has an option to allow you to only use
WiFi for VoIP if you wish and it will never do it over GPRS (you can
also choose to use WiFi and GPRS if you wish).

D

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

New question now - is there an unlock solution for the various versions
of the HTC Hermes? Is it as simple as a firmware flash, or something
that the handset needs to be sent off for?

Nick

NickD wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback everyone.
>
> New question now - is there an unlock solution for the various versions
> of the HTC Hermes? Is it as simple as a firmware flash, or something
> that the handset needs to be sent off for?
>
> Nick

I have successfully unlocked 3 x M3100 via www.imei-check.co.uk

Has worked perfectly each time.

If you look through www.xda-developers.com or www.modaco.com, I think
I've seen that there's someone else doing it for £15.

Incidentally, there are currently 3 versions of the HTC Hermes:

HERM100 = voda 1605 etc
HERM200 = spv m3100 etc
HERM300 = vario 2

Slightly different button configuration (also HERM300 has no video call
button, but it's still there on the dialler pad).

Regards

Simon Clark
Business Telecoms

simonclark123@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> Incidentally, there are currently 3 versions of the HTC Hermes:
>
> HERM100 =3D voda 1605 etc
> HERM200 =3D spv m3100 etc
> HERM300 =3D vario 2

My Orange M3100 reports itself as a HERM100.
--
Regards
Jon

Jon wrote:

> simonclark123@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> > Incidentally, there are currently 3 versions of the HTC Hermes:
> >
> > HERM100 =3D voda 1605 etc
> > HERM200 =3D spv m3100 etc
> > HERM300 =3D vario 2
>
> My Orange M3100 reports itself as a HERM100.
> --
> Regards
> Jon

Apologies, so does mine

Must be

HERM100 = spv m3100 etc
HERM200 = voda v1605 etc
HERM300 = vario 2

Regards

Simon Clark
Business Telecoms