NTL/Virgin - new deal for cable cuctomers

This is the one where you get a free phone and pay 10 GBP/month PAYG for
a zillion minutes... http://tinyurl.com/yepolb (or
<http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/genericContent.do?contentId=vm.with.cable.brochure.shop.sm241>

I'm trying to work out whether (as anm existing cable customer) there's
anything to stop you from signing up for the phone deal offer, then
cancelling after the first month and then just keeping the phone? As far
as I can see there isn't, but as usual reading the T&Cs is like wading
through treacle...

Thanks
David

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Lobster wrote:

> This is the one where you get a free phone and pay 10 GBP/month PAYG for
> a zillion minutes... http://tinyurl.com/yepolb (or
> <http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/genericContent.do?contentId=vm.with.cable.brochure.shop.sm241>
>
> I'm trying to work out whether (as anm existing cable customer) there's
> anything to stop you from signing up for the phone deal offer, then
> cancelling after the first month and then just keeping the phone? As far
> as I can see there isn't, but as usual reading the T&Cs is like wading
> through treacle...
>
> Thanks
> David

?? Its not a PAYG phone, its contract. You get a £30 a month contract
for £10

Xeonwales wrote:

> Lobster wrote:
>
> > This is the one where you get a free phone and pay 10 GBP/month PAYG for
> > a zillion minutes... http://tinyurl.com/yepolb (or
> > <http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/genericContent.do?contentId=vm.with.cable.brochure.shop.sm241>
> >
> > I'm trying to work out whether (as anm existing cable customer) there's
> > anything to stop you from signing up for the phone deal offer, then
> > cancelling after the first month and then just keeping the phone? As far
> > as I can see there isn't, but as usual reading the T&Cs is like wading
> > through treacle...
> >
> > Thanks
> > David
>
> ?? Its not a PAYG phone, its contract. You get a £30 a month contract
> for £10

P.S. Its also only a sim card, you dont get a fone

"Xeonwales" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

[snip]

> P.S. Its also only a sim card, you dont get a fone

What's a fone..? I can't find that word in my dictionary.

Ivor

Thus spaketh Xeonwales:
> Xeonwales wrote:
>
>> Lobster wrote:
>>
>>> This is the one where you get a free phone and pay 10 GBP/month
>>> PAYG for a zillion minutes... http://tinyurl.com/yepolb (or
>>> <http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/genericContent.do?contentId=vm.with.cable.brochure.shop.sm241>
>>>
>>> I'm trying to work out whether (as anm existing cable customer)
>>> there's anything to stop you from signing up for the phone deal
>>> offer, then cancelling after the first month and then just keeping
>>> the phone? As far as I can see there isn't, but as usual reading
>>> the T&Cs is like wading through treacle...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> David
>>
>> ?? Its not a PAYG phone, its contract. You get a £30 a month contract
>> for £10
>
> P.S. Its also only a sim card, you dont get a fone


Free Virgin Mobile Phone, 300 texts, 300 minutes,
no contract, only £10 a month. To get sorted or for more information,
call
0800 408 9342 and quote 'Free Lobster Offer'

From a card that *you received through your door*


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Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
> Thus spaketh Xeonwales:
>> Xeonwales wrote:
>>
>>> Lobster wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is the one where you get a free phone and pay 10 GBP/month
>>>> PAYG for a zillion minutes... http://tinyurl.com/yepolb (or
>>>> <http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/genericContent.do?contentId=vm.with.cable.brochure.shop.sm241>
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to work out whether (as anm existing cable customer)
>>>> there's anything to stop you from signing up for the phone deal
>>>> offer, then cancelling after the first month and then just keeping
>>>> the phone? As far as I can see there isn't, but as usual reading
>>>> the T&Cs is like wading through treacle...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> David
>>>
>>> ?? Its not a PAYG phone, its contract. You get a £30 a month
>>> contract for £10
>>
>> P.S. Its also only a sim card, you dont get a fone
>
>
> Free Virgin Mobile Phone, 300 texts, 300 minutes,
> no contract, only £10 a month. To get sorted or for more information,
> call
> 0800 408 9342 and quote 'Free Lobster Offer'
>
> From a card that *you received through your door*


Though I think if you have the "free phone" you have to pay your way out
before 12 months.


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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
> > Free Virgin Mobile Phone, 300 texts, 300 minutes,
> > no contract, only £10 a month. To get sorted or for more information,
> > call
> > 0800 408 9342 and quote 'Free Lobster Offer'
> >
> > From a card that *you received through your door*
>
> Though I think if you have the "free phone" you have to pay your way out
> before 12 months.

Plus you can only get the free Lobster phone if you have the 3 for £30
Cable deal.

King Of Fools wrote:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> > Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
> > > Free Virgin Mobile Phone, 300 texts, 300 minutes,
> > > no contract, only £10 a month. To get sorted or for more information,
> > > call
> > > 0800 408 9342 and quote 'Free Lobster Offer'
> > >
> > > From a card that *you received through your door*
> >
> > Though I think if you have the "free phone" you have to pay your way out
> > before 12 months.
>
> Plus you can only get the free Lobster phone if you have the 3 for £30
> Cable deal.

What you get

Pick any cable service you like and get a great deal from Virgin
Mobile. Or get all 4 for just £40 a month.

Broadband - from the UK's number one

*
It's unlimited, so you can use it as much as you like - unlike
BT.
*
Nearly 35 times faster than dial-up.

Digital TV - next generation

*
All the top channels including Sky One, E4, ITV2 and CBeebies.
*
Instant access to a library of over 500 films and TV shows.

Home phone - great value

*
Unlimited weekend calls - to any UK landline (for the same price
you pay just for BT line rental).
*
You can usually keep your own number - they'll even contact BT on
your behalf to arrange the switch.

Mobile phone deal - half price

*
Keep the phone you've got.
*
Swap to an exclusive monthly tariff - pay half the usual price.
*
Get 300 texts and 300 minutes for £10 a month (normally £20)
*
Use your calls and texts to any UK mobile network, any time.

Thus spaketh King Of Fools:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>> Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
>>> Free Virgin Mobile Phone, 300 texts, 300 minutes,
>>> no contract, only £10 a month. To get sorted or for more
>>> information, call
>>> 0800 408 9342 and quote 'Free Lobster Offer'
>>>
>>> From a card that *you received through your door*
>>
>> Though I think if you have the "free phone" you have to pay your way
>> out before 12 months.
>
> Plus you can only get the free Lobster phone if you have the 3 for £30
> Cable deal.

Right, so you are saying to get the free phone you must also take at
least 2 other services?

As not to get the free phone and just have the SIM you only need one
other service.

Xeonwales submitted this idea :
> King Of Fools wrote:
>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>>> Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
>>>> Free Virgin Mobile Phone, 300 texts, 300 minutes,
>>>> no contract, only £10 a month. To get sorted or for more information,
>>>> call
>>>> 0800 408 9342 and quote 'Free Lobster Offer'
>>>>
>>>> From a card that *you received through your door*
>>>
>>> Though I think if you have the "free phone" you have to pay your way out
>>> before 12 months.
>>
>> Plus you can only get the free Lobster phone if you have the 3 for £30
>> Cable deal.
>
> What you get
>
> Pick any cable service you like and get a great deal from Virgin
> Mobile. Or get all 4 for just £40 a month.
>
> Broadband - from the UK's number one
>
> *
> It's unlimited, so you can use it as much as you like - unlike
> BT.
> *
> Nearly 35 times faster than dial-up.
>
> Digital TV - next generation
>
> *
> All the top channels including Sky One, E4, ITV2 and CBeebies.
> *
> Instant access to a library of over 500 films and TV shows.
>
> Home phone - great value
>
> *
> Unlimited weekend calls - to any UK landline (for the same price
> you pay just for BT line rental).
> *
> You can usually keep your own number - they'll even contact BT on
> your behalf to arrange the switch.
>
> Mobile phone deal - half price
>
> *
> Keep the phone you've got.
> *
> Swap to an exclusive monthly tariff - pay half the usual price.
> *
> Get 300 texts and 300 minutes for £10 a month (normally £20)
> *
> Use your calls and texts to any UK mobile network, any time.


How they call Home Phone great value I fail to see. They never mention
that for your £11 on BT you pay a fixed fee of 5.5p for an hour in the
evenings and at weekends. That is less than their 6p connection charge
during the weekday evenings, and on top of that they charge you 3p/min,
soon cancels out the free weekend calls in my books. Also ignores
people like Primus who will give you free evening and weekend calls for
no charge if you have BT line.

20 min call on NTL/Telewest on a Monday evening 66p on BT 5.5p.

20 min call on NTL/Telewest at the weekend 0p on BT 5.5p.

Rant over

King Of Fools wrote:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>> Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
>>> Free Virgin Mobile Phone, 300 texts, 300 minutes,
>>> no contract, only £10 a month. To get sorted or for more information,
>>> call
>>> 0800 408 9342 and quote 'Free Lobster Offer'
>>>
>>> From a card that *you received through your door*

Oops, yes sorry - that's where I saw the offer; I thought I'd found the
same offer online in order to post more info but evidently it isn't the
same.

>> Though I think if you have the "free phone" you have to pay your way out
>> before 12 months.

How do you mean, "pay your way out"? Can't see anything about this in
the T&C

> Plus you can only get the free Lobster phone if you have the 3 for £30
> Cable deal.

I already have home phone/broadband/cable TV so presumably this card was
targeted at me...

Still don't know whether I can get the Lobster phone (hey - like the
sound of that ;-) ) and stop the direct debit after 1 month and keep the
phone though?

David

Thus spaketh Lobster:
> King Of Fools wrote:
>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>>> Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
>>>> Free Virgin Mobile Phone, 300 texts, 300 minutes,
>>>> no contract, only £10 a month. To get sorted or for more
>>>> information, call
>>>> 0800 408 9342 and quote 'Free Lobster Offer'
>>>>
>>>> From a card that *you received through your door*
>
> Oops, yes sorry - that's where I saw the offer; I thought I'd found
> the same offer online in order to post more info but evidently it
> isn't the same.
>
>>> Though I think if you have the "free phone" you have to pay your
>>> way out before 12 months.
>
> How do you mean, "pay your way out"? Can't see anything about this in
> the T&C
>
>> Plus you can only get the free Lobster phone if you have the 3 for
>> £30 Cable deal.
>
> I already have home phone/broadband/cable TV so presumably this card
> was targeted at me...
>
> Still don't know whether I can get the Lobster phone (hey - like the
> sound of that ;-) ) and stop the direct debit after 1 month and keep
> the phone though?
>
> David

Reading the website (granted not directly linked to this offer mentioned
within this thread, but it could well be the same terms).

http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/viewP...7-3C32653C2662

*Choosing the Pay Monthly SIM only introductory offer?*

There are 3 tariffs to choose from as part of this introductory offer,
available until 31/10/06. Unlike a contract, there's no minimum term and
no ties. After your first month, you're free to leave when you choose.

*Prefer a Pay Monthly contract?*

You'll get twice as many minutes and texts with selected tariffs when
you buy online. That's compared to the standard tariffs in other
retailers, for as long as you stay a Pay Monthly customer. Or go for our
special online £25 tariff for big texters!
Your Pay Monthly contract comes with a phone and lasts for 12 months
initially. If you'd like to cancel your contract at any time, you can.
You'll just need to give us a month's notice, and pay off the monthly
payments to the end of your contract.
Please note you can only buy one contract at a time.


Yes this is from a Virgin Mobile offer and not the ntl:TW customer
offer, but maybe there are similar terms.

Or maybe ntl:TW are happy to give a phone away?

Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Xeonwales" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
> [snip]
>
>> P.S. Its also only a sim card, you dont get a fone
>
> What's a fone..? I can't find that word in my dictionary.
>
> Ivor

Look this word up:
PRICK

Tro

"Tro.Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Xeonwales" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > P.S. Its also only a sim card, you dont get a fone
> >
> > What's a fone..? I can't find that word in my
> > dictionary. Ivor
>
> Look this word up:
> PRICK

Oh I know what that word means, it's a useful tool. Which is more than can
be said for some.

Ivor

> What's a fone..? I can't find that word in my dictionary.
>
> Ivor
>
>
I think it is a Cellular Telephone that only gets to function on 1800 Mhz
........