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  1. #1
    Jonathan
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    Have a look - how can they get it so wrong by a magnitude of.....???

    My chargers both say they use about 21mA max.

    Also, point 3 seems a little dubious too - AFAIK, the only things that use
    any significant power on standby are digiboxes.
    Surely the rest just take enough to keep the coil energised? My TV and video
    both use < 4 watts on standby.

    http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ic_charger.jpg





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  2. #2
    John Rumm
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhoursa DAY!

    Jonathan wrote:

    > Have a look - how can they get it so wrong by a magnitude of.....???
    >
    > My chargers both say they use about 21mA max.
    >
    > Also, point 3 seems a little dubious too - AFAIK, the only things that use
    > any significant power on standby are digiboxes.
    > Surely the rest just take enough to keep the coil energised? My TV and video
    > both use < 4 watts on standby.
    >
    > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ic_charger.jpg


    The whole lot is dubious at best. Down right misleading would be closer
    to the point.

    Always a problem when you have non technocal maketing droids write
    greenwash. Even if you ignore the 4kW phone charger, the advice to
    landfill a working freezer on the *assumption* is is drastically less
    efficent than your current one risky at best, and that is before you
    look at the life cycle energy of disposing of the old one and producing
    and supplying a new one.

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    John.

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  3. #3
    Gaz
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!

    Jonathan wrote:
    > Have a look - how can they get it so wrong by a magnitude of.....???
    >
    > My chargers both say they use about 21mA max.
    >
    > Also, point 3 seems a little dubious too - AFAIK, the only things that use
    > any significant power on standby are digiboxes.
    > Surely the rest just take enough to keep the coil energised? My TV and
    > video
    > both use < 4 watts on standby.
    >
    > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ic_charger.jpg


    Its part of the 'good lie' which has become more common as of late. It
    doesnt matter if the information they tell you is misleading, or just plain
    incorrect, if it is in a good cause (as judged by them) then it is ok.

    Gaz





  4. #4
    John
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!


    "Gaz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Jonathan wrote:
    >> Have a look - how can they get it so wrong by a magnitude of.....???
    >>
    >> My chargers both say they use about 21mA max.
    >>
    >> Also, point 3 seems a little dubious too - AFAIK, the only things that
    >> use
    >> any significant power on standby are digiboxes.
    >> Surely the rest just take enough to keep the coil energised? My TV and
    >> video
    >> both use < 4 watts on standby.
    >>
    >> http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ic_charger.jpg

    >
    > Its part of the 'good lie' which has become more common as of late. It
    > doesnt matter if the information they tell you is misleading, or just
    > plain incorrect, if it is in a good cause (as judged by them) then it is
    > ok.
    >
    > Gaz
    >

    Many gullible people remember this crap. My TV only uses 0.8 of a watt on
    standby (not that I leave it on standby often). I am getting fed up of the
    greenies making everyone feel guilty about everything - there are bigger
    issues - like the pollution made in China by their dirty power stations and
    processes (producing goods for us that are then shipped half way around the
    world); destruction of rainforests, etc.

    People are only too happy to point their finger and tut everytime a
    politician of member of royal family use a car or aeroplane - but miss
    issues that are statistically more significant.





  5. #5
    ukagent
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!

    Maybe the publicity dept got the decimal point in the wrong place

    Should it not have been 100 x 10 to the power of -3 or 100mW, but then
    the publicity dept thought we are a generating company and do not deal
    in such small numbers, and dropped the minus sign and made it into
    100kW.

    Or maybe the typist thought the engineers notes had just got a pencil
    mark on it, and did not transfer the minus sign ???

    It does make you wonder how many eyes (on multi thousand pay packets)
    read that bit of paper before being published.




  6. #6
    N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!

    Dear ukagent:

    "ukagent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Maybe the publicity dept got the decimal point in
    > the wrong place


    > Or maybe the typist thought the engineers notes
    > had just got a pencil mark on it, and did not transfer
    > the minus sign ???


    It may have been extrapolated to their entire customer base,
    assuming each account had a similar device.

    David A. Smith





  7. #7
    Dave R
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhoursa DAY!

    ukagent wrote:
    > Maybe the publicity dept got the decimal point in the wrong place
    >
    > Should it not have been 100 x 10 to the power of -3 or 100mW, but then
    > the publicity dept thought we are a generating company and do not deal
    > in such small numbers, and dropped the minus sign and made it into
    > 100kW.
    >
    > Or maybe the typist thought the engineers notes had just got a pencil
    > mark on it, and did not transfer the minus sign ???
    >
    > It does make you wonder how many eyes (on multi thousand pay packets)
    > read that bit of paper before being published.
    >

    I have one of those energy monitors from Maplin, my mobile phone
    chargers use nothing when not plugged into the phone.



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    gort
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!


    >>

    > I have one of those energy monitors from Maplin, my mobile phone
    > chargers use nothing when not plugged into the phone.


    They will use a small amount. I expect its too low to show on the monitor.

    Dave




  9. #9
    OG
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!


    "Dave R" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > ukagent wrote:
    >> Maybe the publicity dept got the decimal point in the wrong place Should
    >> it not have been 100 x 10 to the power of -3 or 100mW, but then
    >> the publicity dept thought we are a generating company and do not deal
    >> in such small numbers, and dropped the minus sign and made it into
    >> 100kW.
    >>
    >> Or maybe the typist thought the engineers notes had just got a pencil
    >> mark on it, and did not transfer the minus sign ???
    >>
    >> It does make you wonder how many eyes (on multi thousand pay packets)
    >> read that bit of paper before being published.
    >>

    > I have one of those energy monitors from Maplin, my mobile phone chargers
    > use nothing when not plugged into the phone.


    Is that the £26.99 one on the Maplin website?. How accurate is it at low
    current?





  10. #10
    OG
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!


    "John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> Gaz
    >>

    > Many gullible people remember this crap. My TV only uses 0.8 of a watt on
    > standby (not that I leave it on standby often).


    What make and model is that? Is the 0.8W figure your own measured value, or
    a manufacturer figure?





  11. #11
    Roger Matthews
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!


    "OG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>>
    >>> Gaz
    >>>

    >> Many gullible people remember this crap. My TV only uses 0.8 of a watt on
    >> standby (not that I leave it on standby often).

    >
    > What make and model is that? Is the 0.8W figure your own measured value,
    > or a manufacturer figure?
    >

    I don't know about his TV but Sony say that my LCD 23" uses 0.7W on
    standby - that seems very low and makes you inclined to question all of the
    figures being bandied around by the Government!

    Roger




  12. #12
    John
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!


    "OG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>>
    >>> Gaz
    >>>

    >> Many gullible people remember this crap. My TV only uses 0.8 of a watt on
    >> standby (not that I leave it on standby often).

    >
    > What make and model is that? Is the 0.8W figure your own measured value,
    > or a manufacturer figure?
    >
    >


    JVC AV-28WFT1EK - Approx 4 years old - 28 inch CRT Flat Screen.

    There is now a standard governing stand-by.





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    John
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!




  14. #14
    John
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhours a DAY!


    "John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > This might be of interest:
    >
    > http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/...ive/795944.pdf
    >
    >
    >
    >


    Another good site:



    http://www.iea.org/textbase/nppdf/fr...thenight01.pdf





  15. #15
    John Rumm
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    Re: Southern Electric say each mobile phone charger uses 100kWhoursa DAY!

    Dave R wrote:

    > I have one of those energy monitors from Maplin, my mobile phone
    > chargers use nothing when not plugged into the phone.


    It is worth noting that many modern phone chargers are switched mode
    power supplies. Many of these will in effect turn off when there is no
    load.

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    Cheers,

    John.

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