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- 01-30-2007, 09:55 AM #1Paul CumminsGuest
Text from a weird CLI claiming to have a message waiting for me on
0871 666 1219
Anyone know who this bunch of ****wits is without my calling 10p a
minute?
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- 01-30-2007, 11:16 AM #2Steve TerryGuest
Re: Text from +20105996500
"Paul Cummins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Text from a weird CLI claiming to have a message waiting for me on
> 0871 666 1219
>
> Anyone know who this bunch of ****wits is without my calling 10p a
> minute?
>
You said it yourself, so why bother calling them, the scam is national rate
0871 numbers not being techically premium rate are exempt from what
little spamming legislation there is
BTW calling so called national rate 0871 from most mobiles
is a lot more than 10p, hence their incentive.
Just another example of how OFcon is protecting us, not.
Steve Terry
- 01-30-2007, 12:12 PM #3Paul CumminsGuest
Re: Text from +20105996500
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Steve Terry) wrote:
> You said it yourself, so why bother calling them, the scam is
> national rate
> 0871 numbers not being techically premium rate are exempt from what
> little spamming legislation there is
Yes, but I want to send them a couple of nice letters, then a summons
for it... Lets see - £300 would compensate me :-)
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- 01-30-2007, 01:26 PM #4JonGuest
Re: Text from +20105996500
[email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
> Text from a weird CLI claiming to have a message waiting for me on
> 0871 666 1219
>
> Anyone know who this bunch of ****wits is without my calling 10p a
> minute?
No, but do you really care? Delete the message and move on.
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Regards
Jon
- 01-31-2007, 06:38 AM #5Paul CumminsGuest
Re: Text from +20105996500
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Jon) wrote:
> No, but do you really care? Delete the message and move on.
It was illegal for them to send it to me - why shouldn't I seek
compensation for their illegal act?
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Paul Cummins
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- 01-31-2007, 07:19 AM #6Geoff WinklessGuest
Re: Text from +20105996500
Paul Cummins wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Jon) wrote:
>
>> No, but do you really care? Delete the message and move on.
>
> It was illegal for them to send it to me - why shouldn't I seek
> compensation for their illegal act?
Because you haven't suffered as a result. It's a basic tenet in law that
you must prove loss to claim compensation.
Now if you'd been stupid enough to call the number then you could take
them to court and request punitive damages way in excess of the actual
loss once it came to judgement, but as far as I know (IANAL, obviously)
you can't get to that stage without proving some loss.
Geoff
- 01-31-2007, 10:57 AM #7andyGuest
Re: Text from +20105996500
On Jan 30, 6:12 pm, [email protected] (Paul Cummins)
wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> [email protected] (Steve Terry) wrote:
> > You said it yourself, so why bother calling them, the scam is
> > national rate
> > 0871 numbers not being techically premium rate are exempt from what
> > little spamming legislation there is
>
> Yes, but I want to send them a couple of nice letters, then a summons
> for it... Lets see - £300 would compensate me :-)
>
Which country will you serve this summons in?
I doubt you can hold Vodafone Egypt responsible for the conduct of one
of their customers, or force them to tell you the miscreant's
whereabouts. And that's if the caller ID is genuine, and even so the
texts will have been sent via another carrier
You could approach the provider of the 0871 number - you'll probably
hear that their client has told them the number is used for market
research
As the research consists only of finding out how many gullible people
will call it, and you haven't been susceptible, I think you'd have a
job proving any losses at all, beyond the time you spent writing here,
for which nobody is likely to assume liability as the law obliges you
to mitigate your losses
- 01-31-2007, 01:00 PM #8Ivor JonesGuest
Re: Text from +20105996500
"Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> "Paul Cummins" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
> > Text from a weird CLI claiming to have a message
> > waiting for me on 0871 666 1219
> >
> > Anyone know who this bunch of ****wits is without my
> > calling 10p a minute?
> >
> You said it yourself, so why bother calling them, the
> scam is national rate 0871 numbers not being techically
> premium rate are exempt from what little spamming legislation there is
>
> BTW calling so called national rate 0871 from most mobiles
> is a lot more than 10p, hence their incentive.
>
> Just another example of how OFcon is protecting us, not.
>
> Steve Terry
I just had one of those today on my Tesco SIM. I sent it to 7726, the same
number as Orange use for spam reporting, although what they'll do with it
is anyone's guess.
Ivor
- 01-31-2007, 01:02 PM #9Ivor JonesGuest
Re: Text from +20105996500
"Geoff Winkless" <usenet-at-geoff-dot-dj@[127.0.0.1]> wrote
in message
news:[email protected]
> Paul Cummins wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] (Jon) wrote:
> > > No, but do you really care? Delete the message and
> > > move on.
> >
> > It was illegal for them to send it to me - why
> > shouldn't I seek compensation for their illegal act?
>
> Because you haven't suffered as a result. It's a basic
> tenet in law that you must prove loss to claim
> compensation.
I have suffered through the irritation I was caused. It forced me to take
time out to deal with it and caused me distress as a result..!
Ivor
- 02-01-2007, 03:49 AM #10Paul CumminsGuest
Re: Text from +20105996500
In article <[email protected]>,
usenet-at-geoff-dot-dj@[127.0.0.1] (Geoff Winkless) wrote:
> > It was illegal for them to send it to me - why shouldn't I seek
> > compensation for their illegal act?
>
> Because you haven't suffered as a result. It's a basic tenet in law
> that you must prove loss to claim compensation.
I have suffered inter-alia the cost of dealing with the illegal
actions of ALL spammers, whether by email or SMS.
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