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- 07-22-2007, 03:50 AM #1BGNGuest
After having my n95 for about a month I've got used to it and it's got
used to me.
I've spent a long time in UAT environments and know how to improve
software so it's become a bit of a habit to think about all devices as
works in progress.
Observations and suggestions for the n95:
1) If you don't fanny about with it all the time the battery lasts for
a quite a while. Charging it up every night isn't too much of a
problem - the battery charges from empty to full in around 80 minutes
so I've just plugged it in when I'm sitting down I'm listening to
music on it and that's been fine.
2) The camera is very good even if you don't fiddle with it too much.
Close up photography isn't all that hot unless you put it in 'close
up' mode - I'd prefer it if it detected the distance and decided for
itself. It would be nice for the camera to have an optical zoom on it
as well as a reasonable wider-angle mode, but I suppose you can't have
everything in such a small lens.
3) Additional uses for the velocity sensor: The phone does indeed
have one as when you take a photo landscape it knows it's landscape
and then you don't change anything and take a portrait orientated shot
it knows the difference between the two when you go to the gallery and
look at both images. It orientates them correctly. Why not use this
velocity sensor during normal phone use. When I'm looking at a web
page and turn the phone 'landscape' why not auto-orientate the screen
to landscape instead of waiting for me to open the phone 'sideways'
before it detects it? Also, why not let me turn the phone landscape
but 'upside down'? I would much rather navigate a web page in
landscape with the phone in my left hand but if I do this the web page
is the wrong way around – an option to use the web browser in a kind
of left-handed mode would suit me, even though I'm not left handed.
4) Audio player: A very good audio player, for a mobile phone. Why
not give it a hardware equaliser instead of just a software one as I
find that the bass isn't as strong as it could be, even with it up
full. Still, a very good quality reproduction for a mobile phone and
I can even leave my Bose QuietComfort 2 Noise Cancelling earphones on
'high power device' mode.
5) Get rid of the 'gallery' button on the side of the phone as it's
not much use and I keep pressing it my accident – why not move it to
near the power button on the 'top' of the phone or add two more
user-assignable shortcut buttons there, or perhaps just make the
shortcut button harder to press, like the volume buttons.
6) Auto-orient the phone to portrait when I 'close' the handset
instead of leaving it in landscape mode.
7) Improve the Nokia PC Suite so that I can sync via WiFi instead of
just USB/Bluetooth. Plugging the phone into the USB port is an arse.
For such an 'independent' phone it seems odd that I need to plug it in
to talk to my PC.
8) Improve the Nokia Media Manager PC software so that it's more user
friendly and compresses in more useful formats.
9) Install an Instant Messenger client by default with the phone for
free which saves me having to look around for an Agile
Messenger/eBuddy style 3rd party one.
10) Improve the processor power usage. It would be nice to have
something like the Intel SpeedStep technology on the phone. The phone
seems to have two options, On and Power Save screen saver mode. When
the phone is in 'on' mode and I'm writing a text message the whole CPU
isn't needed so why not just have the CPU powered high enough and
running at a speed for which the running applications require? It
would improve battery life.
11) A bit of a radical suggestion, I know, as it will impact of the
look of the phone: When I had a Nokia 7110 and other similar phones
there was more than one battery option. The first was the slimfit one
which came with the phone and the second was a fatter battery which
lasted a lot longer between charges. Investigate the possibilities of
creating a fatter battery for the n95 or newer models and a 'bulging'
battery cover instead of the flat one.
12) Podcasting. The Nokia Podcasting app seems pretty good (although
it would be nice if it linked in with the normal browser instead of
having to manually key in RSS/Atom feed URLs to the application) –
When I download the BBC Breakfast Takeaway in the morning to watch
when I'm sitting outside having the first cigarette of the day for 10
minutes it always says something like "Video will not play on this
device" but then launches it in RealPlayer and it plays perfectly.
Someone needs to tell the podcasting application what the phone can
and can't play.
13) Nokia Media Manager needs some tweaking. Videos like the
Breakfast Takeaway above play perfectly at a decent framerate, but
when one uses the Nokia application on a PC to encode a video it
encodes it at a bitrate much lower than what the phone is capable of
playing and it reduces the frame rate (The phone records video itself
at 640x480 @ 30fps so it can handle pretty much anything that one
would wish to throw at it). The application asks for the phone to be
connected via USB or whatever when the video is compressed so it does
it at the best format but it's obviously underestimating what the n95
can do.
14) Move the GPS receiver into the top of the screen, perhaps bin the
2nd camera as I don't use it and video calling hasn't taken off in my
circle of friends. The GPS receiver appears to be at the bottom of
the phone, under the keypad. Yes, where you're going to be holding it
and have your hands around it or if you want to take sat-nav into the
car then that's likely to be where it's mounted too. If it was at the
top near the camera and environment sensor then it would get a much
better signal as nobody holds their phone by that area.
15) My Nokia e61 has the option to kill off applications from a kind
of 'task manager' but the n95 doesn't have this option. If you've
exited out of an app by going to the 'hang up' button the application
is still active and you can see it's active by going to the phone menu
where a little icon shows next to active applications. If the app has
died then you can't go into the app and then close it so have to
reboot. If the option to kill off running processes was present
(perhaps accessable by holding the 'hang up' key for a few seconds)
then it would save power cycling. Not that any of the applications
crash much.
16) Flickr auto-uploading of photos: Give the ability to add tags to
photos, mark them as private, insert them in Sets or Groups. At the
moment any photo that is uploaded is not marked in any way and is
defaulted to 'public'. I do a 'daily photo' for a Flickr group I'm in
and I upload it as soon as it's taken via T-Mobile Web'n'Walk but I
have to wait until I get home to assign it to a group, add tags, etc.
I have tried just logging into Flickr via their normal website on the
phone but the Yahoo! sign in jobbe doesn't appear to understand mobile
phones. The Flickr Mobile website doesn't give the options to assign
tags to your own photos or set groups so perhaps this is more Flickr
related. However, I think the option to add these tags before sending
the photo will be good from the app, such as one can do with the PC
"Flickr Uploadr" software.
17) Despite my initial reservations this phone is excellent. After a
month I haven't got bored with it and use it for pretty much
everything. Well done Nokia.
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- 07-22-2007, 08:33 AM #2DannyTGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
BGN wrote:
> After having my n95 for about a month I've got used to it and it's got
> used to me.
<Snip>
Excellent summary, thanks.
Can I just ask about the GPS? I'm looking for a phone with built-in GPS so
obviously the N95 is a contender, along with the Blackberry 8800. How useful
have you find it and how does it compare with external receiver based
systems such as TomTom navigator? The obvious difference is sensitivity,
with the N95 GPS only being SIRT11.
I'm very interested in Nokia's new 'smart2go' satnav system which I believe
is pre-installed on the N95. It seems to be a very simple and cost effective
solution to satnav and I like the idea of only paying for what you need when
you need it. Have you tried this system?
Also, do you have any comments on the N95's integration with Outlook? I'd
want this phone as a work tool, so the business performance is important to
me. Being able to easily compose emails 'on the road' would be very useful
too so another option is to go for the Nokia E61i along with an external GPS
receiver.
I've read that the N95 keyboard is good but it's not qwerty, so perhaps from
that point of view the E61i would be better. However, I'm put off by the
E61's width and I like the size of the N95!
Decisions decisions!
- 07-22-2007, 11:31 AM #3BGNGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:33:48 GMT, "DannyT" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>BGN wrote:
>> After having my n95 for about a month I've got used to it and it's got
>> used to me.
>
><Snip>
>
>Excellent summary, thanks.
>
>Can I just ask about the GPS? I'm looking for a phone with built-in GPS so
>obviously the N95 is a contender, along with the Blackberry 8800. How useful
>have you find it and how does it compare with external receiver based
>systems such as TomTom navigator? The obvious difference is sensitivity,
>with the N95 GPS only being SIRT11.
I just went outside and sat down to time it and it got a lock on my
position for Google Maps in 70 seconds with the v11firmware. The v12
firmware converts the device from GPS to "aGPS" in which it grabs
additional location data from mobile phone base stations so it can
work out roughly where you are while it searches for a GPS signal to
pinpoint you. This decreases search dramatically I'm told by people
with the v12 firmware.
>I'm very interested in Nokia's new 'smart2go' satnav system which I believe
>is pre-installed on the N95. It seems to be a very simple and cost effective
>solution to satnav and I like the idea of only paying for what you need when
>you need it. Have you tried this system?
I haven't used the GPS much as a navigation device as I've got a
dedicated Garmin 2610 which I use in the car and mounted to my
motorcycle but from those on various forums that use it, it seems
okay. Have a look for the phone on YouTube, I watched a video of
someone driving around with the n95 and it said things like "Turn left
after bridge, GPS signal may be lost" and stuff like that. If you're
on an unlimited 3G plan (it would be silly not to with the capability
of this handset) then I don't think you'll have any problems with the
sat-nav system. Let me see how much it charges...
<turns on sat nav device and clicks 'purchase'>
1) Buy a 3 year license = £47.05
2) Buy a 1 year license = £40.33
3) Buy a 30 day license = £5.37
4) Buy a 7 day license = £4.36
As the GPS data is available to any application one doesn't have to
use the Smart2Go (Nokia have renamed this to 'Maps' which doesn't
sound all that fantastic) so if/when other applications become
available you'll be able to use them too. I think TomTom do a mapping
tool for the e61 so I guess you could use that instead of the Smart2Go
stuff for Turn By Turn navigation. Three years for £47.05 seems quite
good value seeing as the 1 year is only slightly cheaper.
>Also, do you have any comments on the N95's integration with Outlook? I'd
>want this phone as a work tool, so the business performance is important to
>me. Being able to easily compose emails 'on the road' would be very useful
>too so another option is to go for the Nokia E61i along with an external GPS
>receiver.
I haven't used the n95 with outlook as I don't have it installed with
Vista, but the e61 business was fine and I assume it works the same. I
used the 'Transfer Wizard' on the n95 to grab my contacts from my e61
via Bluetooth. The application is pre-installed on the Nokia.
>I've read that the N95 keyboard is good but it's not qwerty, so perhaps from
>that point of view the E61i would be better. However, I'm put off by the
>E61's width and I like the size of the N95!
I have to say that I prefer the T9 on my n95 to the Qwerty on the e61.
The keys on the e61 aren't all that fab and they're quite small. I
noticed, especially with 3rd applications that they weren't really set
up to use a full Qwerty on a phone and it would get confused as to
what you were trying to key in. This rendered some applications
unusable on the e61 as you couldn't get anything decent in them. Even
some of the applications that shipped with the e61 wouldn't work
properly like the currency bit of WorldMate as you couldn't select the
right options.
>Decisions decisions!
I've not use the Gooseberry so I can't give you a comparison but I've
got no real problems with the n95 and doubt I'll change it before the
contract comes up for renewal and then I'd upgrade to the newer
version of the n95 then should Nokia make one.
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- 07-22-2007, 12:54 PM #4Bruce HorrocksGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
BGN wrote:
Nice summary and I agree with virtually everything, plus a couple or
three comments from me:
> 4) Audio player: A very good audio player, for a mobile phone. Why
> not give it a hardware equaliser instead of just a software one as I
> find that the bass isn't as strong as it could be, even with it up
> full. Still, a very good quality reproduction for a mobile phone and
> I can even leave my Bose QuietComfort 2 Noise Cancelling earphones on
> 'high power device' mode.
Mine hisses a lot - both with headphones and with the built-in speakers.
I don't use it much for music so not a problem but some will be upset
by it, I'm sure.
> 12) Podcasting. The Nokia Podcasting app seems pretty good (although
> it would be nice if it linked in with the normal browser instead of
> having to manually key in RSS/Atom feed URLs to the application) –
> When I download the BBC Breakfast Takeaway in the morning to watch
> when I'm sitting outside having the first cigarette of the day for 10
> minutes it always says something like "Video will not play on this
> device" but then launches it in RealPlayer and it plays perfectly.
> Someone needs to tell the podcasting application what the phone can
> and can't play.
This seems to be general feature of the web browser/RealPlayer
integration. It often complains about Listen Again from the Beeb and
claims no player plugin available but if you hack around and extract the
rtsp URL then RealPlayer on the phone will play it perfectly.
I've just created a small html file with the links of those that I
listen to regularly and click on those. One of these days I will get
around to writing a small app to do it all on the fly.
> 14) Move the GPS receiver into the top of the screen, perhaps bin the
> 2nd camera as I don't use it and video calling hasn't taken off in my
> circle of friends. The GPS receiver appears to be at the bottom of
> the phone, under the keypad. Yes, where you're going to be holding it
> and have your hands around it or if you want to take sat-nav into the
> car then that's likely to be where it's mounted too. If it was at the
> top near the camera and environment sensor then it would get a much
> better signal as nobody holds their phone by that area.
It would be nice to move it but who knows how tightly the hardware is
all squashed in there? I bought a cheapo car cradle that grips the side
of the phone and sticks to the dash, powered from the ciggy lighter and
it works perfectly.
> 15) My Nokia e61 has the option to kill off applications from a kind
> of 'task manager' but the n95 doesn't have this option. If you've
> exited out of an app by going to the 'hang up' button the application
> is still active and you can see it's active by going to the phone menu
> where a little icon shows next to active applications. If the app has
> died then you can't go into the app and then close it so have to
> reboot. If the option to kill off running processes was present
> (perhaps accessable by holding the 'hang up' key for a few seconds)
> then it would save power cycling. Not that any of the applications
> crash much.
You can do this. Press and hold the menu button and you get a pop-up
list of the running apps. Select the one you want to kill and press the
C button.
> 17) Despite my initial reservations this phone is excellent. After a
> month I haven't got bored with it and use it for pretty much
> everything. Well done Nokia.
Seconded.
Very good on the internet connectivity. HSDPA works well and you can
have more than one internet connection going at once. For example I can
use it as a modem for my laptop and also "listen again" to a Beeb radio
programme.
You can receive & send texts while a modem connection is open without
problems. Voice calls come through but the modem link is more or less
suspended (not actually dropped but throughput drops to a very low
rate). The impact this has depends on how robustly your software handles
such things.
Only caveat is that using it as a modem with a USB connection to a
laptop stuffs the battery - I get an hour at the most in that
combination. Ironically, Bluetooth to the laptop seems to last a bit
longer. I would have thought that it would draw power from the USB
connection if it got the chance but it doesn't seem to.
All in all a great phone if you want to more than talk and text.
Regards,
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- 07-22-2007, 01:07 PM #5Bruce HorrocksGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
DannyT wrote:
> I'm very interested in Nokia's new 'smart2go' satnav system which I believe
> is pre-installed on the N95. It seems to be a very simple and cost effective
> solution to satnav and I like the idea of only paying for what you need when
> you need it. Have you tried this system?
Sat Nav works pretty well - the maps are pretty detailed and you can
download on the fly (so you need a good data price plan) or you can use
a PC to download maps for the whole country in advance and then it works
as a completely stand-alone unit.
Route planning works well enough but sometimes chooses routes that I
wouldn't. :-( I suppose that is true of all sat navs.
You can track a route as you drive - which is free - but it doesn't tell
you where and when to turn. It also doesn't re-orient the screen to have
ahead facing up - which can require a bit of spatial gymnastics to work
out which way you need to turn.
Alternatively, you can pay for Navigation (as mentioned elsewhere in
this thread) and it then tells you where and when to turn, plus orients
the screen so ahead is always at the top of the screen; rescales
according to your speed so that what is coming up is also the same time
away even if not the same distance, if that makes sense.
It all works pretty well. If you miss a turn it auto-replans the route -
which may mean turning round or it may find another.
The only slightly odd thing I found was on the M3 heading into London it
displayed a "turn right in 16.5 miles" sign. It might have waited until
I was a little nearer the junction. :-)
> Also, do you have any comments on the N95's integration with Outlook? I'd
> want this phone as a work tool, so the business performance is important to
> me. Being able to easily compose emails 'on the road' would be very useful
> too so another option is to go for the Nokia E61i along with an external GPS
> receiver.
It only integrates with Outlook for contacts, notes and calendar, not
email. It supports IMAP4 and POP3 so you you would have to get your
Exchange administrator to set those up for you if you wanted access in
both Outlook and the N95.
HTH
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Surrey
England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
- 07-22-2007, 01:14 PM #6Bruce HorrocksGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
BGN wrote:
> <turns on sat nav device and clicks 'purchase'>
>
> 1) Buy a 3 year license = £47.05
> 2) Buy a 1 year license = £40.33
> 3) Buy a 30 day license = £5.37
> 4) Buy a 7 day license = £4.36
You get an option to pay by credit card or premium SMS.
As a test, I just tried out the 7 day license. It tells you that the SMS
method will cost £4.50 instead of £4.36 in the form of 3 x £1.50 premium
SMSs. Fair enough - there is bound to be an operator charge in there
somewhere.
T-Mobile then billed me for £4.80. When queried, the bloke on support
refused to do anything other than give an 0870 number for the company
that provides the service. "It's a third party service provider" was his
stuck-record refrain.
I'm certain that T-Mobile have added 10p per SMS but they won't admit to
it at the moment. Maybe it's in their Ts&Cs but it would be nice if they
could say where.
Regards,
--
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Surrey
England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
- 07-22-2007, 01:30 PM #7SteveHGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
Bruce Horrocks <[email protected]> wrote:
> > <turns on sat nav device and clicks 'purchase'>
> >
> > 1) Buy a 3 year license = £47.05
> > 2) Buy a 1 year license = £40.33
> > 3) Buy a 30 day license = £5.37
> > 4) Buy a 7 day license = £4.36
>
> You get an option to pay by credit card or premium SMS.
>
> As a test, I just tried out the 7 day license. It tells you that the SMS
> method will cost £4.50 instead of £4.36 in the form of 3 x £1.50 premium
> SMSs. Fair enough - there is bound to be an operator charge in there
> somewhere.
>
> T-Mobile then billed me for £4.80. When queried, the bloke on support
> refused to do anything other than give an 0870 number for the company
> that provides the service. "It's a third party service provider" was his
> stuck-record refrain.
>
> I'm certain that T-Mobile have added 10p per SMS but they won't admit to
> it at the moment. Maybe it's in their Ts&Cs but it would be nice if they
> could say where.
T&Cs for premium SMS services usually say 'plus normal network charge'
somewhere.
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- 07-22-2007, 02:04 PM #8DannyTGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
SteveH wrote:
> Bruce Horrocks <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> <turns on sat nav device and clicks 'purchase'>
>>>
>>> 1) Buy a 3 year license = £47.05
>>> 2) Buy a 1 year license = £40.33
>>> 3) Buy a 30 day license = £5.37
>>> 4) Buy a 7 day license = £4.36
>>
>> You get an option to pay by credit card or premium SMS.
>>
>> As a test, I just tried out the 7 day license. It tells you that the
>> SMS method will cost £4.50 instead of £4.36 in the form of 3 x £1.50
>> premium SMSs. Fair enough - there is bound to be an operator charge
>> in there somewhere.
>>
>> T-Mobile then billed me for £4.80. When queried, the bloke on support
>> refused to do anything other than give an 0870 number for the company
>> that provides the service. "It's a third party service provider" was
>> his stuck-record refrain.
>>
>> I'm certain that T-Mobile have added 10p per SMS but they won't
>> admit to it at the moment. Maybe it's in their Ts&Cs but it would be
>> nice if they could say where.
>
> T&Cs for premium SMS services usually say 'plus normal network charge'
> somewhere.
Ah yes, and a text normally costs 10p.
- 07-22-2007, 02:57 PM #9DannyTGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> DannyT wrote:
>> I'm very interested in Nokia's new 'smart2go' satnav system which I
>> believe is pre-installed on the N95. It seems to be a very simple
>> and cost effective solution to satnav and I like the idea of only
>> paying for what you need when you need it. Have you tried this
>> system?
>
> Sat Nav works pretty well - the maps are pretty detailed and you can
> download on the fly (so you need a good data price plan) or you can
> use a PC to download maps for the whole country in advance and then
> it works as a completely stand-alone unit.
>
> Route planning works well enough but sometimes chooses routes that I
> wouldn't. :-( I suppose that is true of all sat navs.
>
> You can track a route as you drive - which is free - but it doesn't
> tell you where and when to turn. It also doesn't re-orient the screen
> to have ahead facing up - which can require a bit of spatial
> gymnastics to work out which way you need to turn.
>
> Alternatively, you can pay for Navigation (as mentioned elsewhere in
> this thread) and it then tells you where and when to turn, plus
> orients the screen so ahead is always at the top of the screen;
> rescales according to your speed so that what is coming up is also
> the same time away even if not the same distance, if that makes sense.
>
> It all works pretty well. If you miss a turn it auto-replans the
> route - which may mean turning round or it may find another.
>
> The only slightly odd thing I found was on the M3 heading into London
> it displayed a "turn right in 16.5 miles" sign. It might have waited
> until I was a little nearer the junction. :-)
>
>> Also, do you have any comments on the N95's integration with
>> Outlook? I'd want this phone as a work tool, so the business
>> performance is important to me. Being able to easily compose emails
>> 'on the road' would be very useful too so another option is to go
>> for the Nokia E61i along with an external GPS receiver.
>
> It only integrates with Outlook for contacts, notes and calendar, not
> email. It supports IMAP4 and POP3 so you you would have to get your
> Exchange administrator to set those up for you if you wanted access in
> both Outlook and the N95.
>
> HTH
Thanks for the info!
- 07-22-2007, 03:54 PM #10DannyTGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
BGN wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:33:48 GMT, "DannyT" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
<snip>
> I just went outside and sat down to time it and it got a lock on my
> position for Google Maps in 70 seconds with the v11firmware. The v12
> firmware converts the device from GPS to "aGPS" in which it grabs
> additional location data from mobile phone base stations so it can
> work out roughly where you are while it searches for a GPS signal to
> pinpoint you. This decreases search dramatically I'm told by people
> with the v12 firmware.
Sounds good. How do you update the firmware with a Nokia?
<snip>
> <turns on sat nav device and clicks 'purchase'>
> 1) Buy a 3 year license = £47.05
> 2) Buy a 1 year license = £40.33
> 3) Buy a 30 day license = £5.37
> 4) Buy a 7 day license = £4.36
The pricing is excellent but Smart2go/Nokia Maps seem to be a bit vague
about what areas they cover for what price. I thought that it would be
country by country but the Smart2go website seems to imply that the pricing
you outlined is per category, and 'category A' as they call it is actually
Western Europe! The pricing is superb if you can get three years'
subscription to Western Europe for 47.05.
I wonder how one can integrate a speed camera database into Nokia maps?
<snip>
> I have to say that I prefer the T9 on my n95 to the Qwerty on the e61.
> The keys on the e61 aren't all that fab and they're quite small. I
> noticed, especially with 3rd applications that they weren't really set
> up to use a full Qwerty on a phone and it would get confused as to
> what you were trying to key in. This rendered some applications
> unusable on the e61 as you couldn't get anything decent in them. Even
> some of the applications that shipped with the e61 wouldn't work
> properly like the currency bit of WorldMate as you couldn't select the
> right options.
Interesting. Perhaps the answer is to buy a Freedom bluetooth keyboard for
around 50 pounds if you want to send longish emails? They work with a wide
range of phones and fold up so they are easy to carry around. I don't know
how much they sap the phone's battery when in use though.
>> Decisions decisions!
>
> I've not use the Gooseberry so I can't give you a comparison but I've
> got no real problems with the n95 and doubt I'll change it before the
> contract comes up for renewal and then I'd upgrade to the newer
> version of the n95 then should Nokia make one.
It's certainly top of my list at the moment.
- 07-23-2007, 10:09 AM #11Bruce HorrocksGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
DannyT wrote:
>>> I'm certain that T-Mobile have added 10p per SMS but they won't
>>> admit to it at the moment. Maybe it's in their Ts&Cs but it would be
>>> nice if they could say where.
>> T&Cs for premium SMS services usually say 'plus normal network charge'
>> somewhere.
>
> Ah yes, and a text normally costs 10p.
Agreed, but it's not mentioned in the mapping T&Cs given when you make
the purchase: <http://europe.nokia.com/A4403046>
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- 07-23-2007, 10:10 AM #12SteveHGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
Bruce Horrocks <[email protected]> wrote:
> DannyT wrote:
> >>> I'm certain that T-Mobile have added 10p per SMS but they won't
> >>> admit to it at the moment. Maybe it's in their Ts&Cs but it would be
> >>> nice if they could say where.
> >> T&Cs for premium SMS services usually say 'plus normal network charge'
> >> somewhere.
> >
> > Ah yes, and a text normally costs 10p.
>
> Agreed, but it's not mentioned in the mapping T&Cs given when you make
> the purchase: <http://europe.nokia.com/A4403046>
Apart from this one:
1.5. Using the Product and Services, you may incur additional fees by
the network operators or other telecommunication operators. Nokia
assumes no responsibility for the payment of any such fees.
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- 07-23-2007, 04:02 PM #13Bruce HorrocksGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
SteveH wrote:
> Bruce Horrocks <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> DannyT wrote:
>>>>> I'm certain that T-Mobile have added 10p per SMS but they won't
>>>>> admit to it at the moment. Maybe it's in their Ts&Cs but it would be
>>>>> nice if they could say where.
>>>> T&Cs for premium SMS services usually say 'plus normal network charge'
>>>> somewhere.
>>> Ah yes, and a text normally costs 10p.
>> Agreed, but it's not mentioned in the mapping T&Cs given when you make
>> the purchase: <http://europe.nokia.com/A4403046>
>
> Apart from this one:
>
> 1.5. Using the Product and Services, you may incur additional fees by
> the network operators or other telecommunication operators. Nokia
> assumes no responsibility for the payment of any such fees.
>
But those additional fees are already stated: hence the £4.50 instead of
£4.36 or whatever it is when paying by credit card. Or maybe they want
to reserve the right to charge any amount at any time?
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- 07-27-2007, 06:05 PM #14Bruce HorrocksGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
Bruce Horrocks wrote:
>> Apart from this one:
>>
>> 1.5. Using the Product and Services, you may incur additional fees by
>> the network operators or other telecommunication operators. Nokia
>> assumes no responsibility for the payment of any such fees.
>>
> But those additional fees are already stated: hence the £4.50 instead of
> £4.36 or whatever it is when paying by credit card. Or maybe they want
> to reserve the right to charge any amount at any time?
Okay, after an email complaint T-Mobile customer services promptly
agreed to refund the 30p. Read into that what you will as to whether the
charge was justified or not.
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- 07-28-2007, 12:19 AM #15BGNGuest
Re: A month with a Nokia n95 (long)
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:05:44 +0100, Bruce Horrocks
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Bruce Horrocks wrote:
>>> Apart from this one:
>>>
>>> 1.5. Using the Product and Services, you may incur additional fees by
>>> the network operators or other telecommunication operators. Nokia
>>> assumes no responsibility for the payment of any such fees.
>>>
>> But those additional fees are already stated: hence the £4.50 instead of
>> £4.36 or whatever it is when paying by credit card. Or maybe they want
>> to reserve the right to charge any amount at any time?
>
>Okay, after an email complaint T-Mobile customer services promptly
>agreed to refund the 30p. Read into that what you will as to whether the
>charge was justified or not.
I'd authorise a refund of 30p to stop someone moaning even if it
wasn't justified.
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