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Old 07-24-2007, 04:16 AM   #1
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1899 etc. SMS service


Sorry for the cross-posting, but this seemed to straddle both groups!
I've started using the sms service available via the 1899 website (the
other related companies offer the same service now) but I can't get it
to use my mobile number as an ID, only my landline! When I tried to
remove my landline as a registered number, then the only ID available
was the 0870 access number. Is this on purpose, or has anyone else
managed to get their mobile number as the ID? (More useful, obviously!)

TIA,

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Old 07-24-2007, 10:31 AM   #2
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David Horne wrote:
> Sorry for the cross-posting, but this seemed to straddle both groups!
> I've started using the sms service available via the 1899 website (the
> other related companies offer the same service now) but I can't get it
> to use my mobile number as an ID, only my landline! When I tried to
> remove my landline as a registered number, then the only ID available
> was the 0870 access number. Is this on purpose, or has anyone else
> managed to get their mobile number as the ID? (More useful,
> obviously!)
>
> TIA,
>
> David


Some people are stating they can select their mobile and / or landline
number, others like myself are only able to select the freephone 0808 access
number as the Caller ID.


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Old 07-24-2007, 11:43 AM   #3
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:31:55 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Some people are stating they can select their mobile and / or landline
>number, others like myself are only able to select the freephone 0808 access
>number as the Caller ID.


Have you used 1899 to make any calls yet?

I have two numbers registered with 1899, but I've only used one of
them to make calls via the service. I can only select that number
(and the 0808 one) as my 'sender ID.'
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:48 AM   #4
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"Martin Jay" <martin@spam-free.org.uk> wrote in message
news:r8aca3hlr2js4ds98e466fh9hmkc3gegib@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:31:55 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
> <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>Some people are stating they can select their mobile and / or landline
>>number, others like myself are only able to select the freephone 0808
>>access
>>number as the Caller ID.

>
> Have you used 1899 to make any calls yet?
>
> I have two numbers registered with 1899, but I've only used one of
> them to make calls via the service. I can only select that number
> (and the 0808 one) as my 'sender ID.'
> --
> Martin Jay



Yeah hundreds of calls, been using 1899 for several years, along with their
other services.

I was one of the original people letting people know about 18866, 1899 and
then 18185, and their VoIP services too.


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Old 07-24-2007, 01:03 PM   #5
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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> "Martin Jay" <martin@spam-free.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:r8aca3hlr2js4ds98e466fh9hmkc3gegib@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:31:55 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
> > <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >>Some people are stating they can select their mobile and / or landline
> >>number, others like myself are only able to select the freephone 0808
> >>access
> >>number as the Caller ID.

> >
> > Have you used 1899 to make any calls yet?
> >
> > I have two numbers registered with 1899, but I've only used one of
> > them to make calls via the service. I can only select that number
> > (and the 0808 one) as my 'sender ID.'

[]
> Yeah hundreds of calls, been using 1899 for several years, along with their
> other services.
>
> I was one of the original people letting people know about 18866, 1899 and
> then 18185, and their VoIP services too.


I think Martin had the right idea. I'd registered my mobile number, but
had never _used_ it. I made a call from the mobile an hour ago, and the
minute it showed on the bill, I could use the mobile number as the ID.
Thanks Martin!

That was with 1899.

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Old 07-24-2007, 02:05 PM   #6
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David Horne wrote:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Martin Jay" <martin@spam-free.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:r8aca3hlr2js4ds98e466fh9hmkc3gegib@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:31:55 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
>>> <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Some people are stating they can select their mobile and / or
>>>> landline number, others like myself are only able to select the
>>>> freephone 0808 access
>>>> number as the Caller ID.
>>>
>>> Have you used 1899 to make any calls yet?
>>>
>>> I have two numbers registered with 1899, but I've only used one of
>>> them to make calls via the service. I can only select that number
>>> (and the 0808 one) as my 'sender ID.'

> []
>> Yeah hundreds of calls, been using 1899 for several years, along
>> with their other services.
>>
>> I was one of the original people letting people know about 18866,
>> 1899 and then 18185, and their VoIP services too.

>
> I think Martin had the right idea. I'd registered my mobile number,
> but had never _used_ it. I made a call from the mobile an hour ago,
> and the minute it showed on the bill, I could use the mobile number
> as the ID. Thanks Martin!
>
> That was with 1899.



Yet, over the last few years I've used used the service from my mobiles, as
I have from the 01 and 02 numbers, still they don't show.

It's not like I have only just come accross the service and decided to sign
up for the texts, I've been usuing them from a couple of days after they
started up, first I started with 18866 back when it was 1p/min and 1p
connection, then they dropped it to 0.5p/min then 0p/min then slowly crept
the connection charge up. I joined 1899 as I said when they started up and
were cheaper than 18866.



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Old 07-24-2007, 02:20 PM   #7
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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> David Horne wrote:
> > {{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> "Martin Jay" <martin@spam-free.org.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:r8aca3hlr2js4ds98e466fh9hmkc3gegib@4ax.com...
> >>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:31:55 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
> >>> <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> Some people are stating they can select their mobile and / or
> >>>> landline number, others like myself are only able to select the
> >>>> freephone 0808 access
> >>>> number as the Caller ID.
> >>>
> >>> Have you used 1899 to make any calls yet?
> >>>
> >>> I have two numbers registered with 1899, but I've only used one of
> >>> them to make calls via the service. I can only select that number
> >>> (and the 0808 one) as my 'sender ID.'

> > []
> >> Yeah hundreds of calls, been using 1899 for several years, along
> >> with their other services.
> >>
> >> I was one of the original people letting people know about 18866,
> >> 1899 and then 18185, and their VoIP services too.

> >
> > I think Martin had the right idea. I'd registered my mobile number,
> > but had never _used_ it. I made a call from the mobile an hour ago,
> > and the minute it showed on the bill, I could use the mobile number
> > as the ID. Thanks Martin!
> >
> > That was with 1899.

>
>
> Yet, over the last few years I've used used the service from my mobiles, as
> I have from the 01 and 02 numbers, still they don't show.
>
> It's not like I have only just come accross the service and decided to sign
> up for the texts, I've been usuing them from a couple of days after they
> started up, first I started with 18866 back when it was 1p/min and 1p
> connection, then they dropped it to 0.5p/min then 0p/min then slowly crept
> the connection charge up. I joined 1899 as I said when they started up and
> were cheaper than 18866.


Have you used these mobile numbers recently? Try removing the mobile
number, adding it, then making a call from it.

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Old 07-24-2007, 02:30 PM   #8
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David Horne wrote:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> David Horne wrote:
>>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Martin Jay" <martin@spam-free.org.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:r8aca3hlr2js4ds98e466fh9hmkc3gegib@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:31:55 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
>>>>> <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> Some people are stating they can select their mobile and / or
>>>>>> landline number, others like myself are only able to select the
>>>>>> freephone 0808 access
>>>>>> number as the Caller ID.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you used 1899 to make any calls yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have two numbers registered with 1899, but I've only used one of
>>>>> them to make calls via the service. I can only select that number
>>>>> (and the 0808 one) as my 'sender ID.'
>>> []
>>>> Yeah hundreds of calls, been using 1899 for several years, along
>>>> with their other services.
>>>>
>>>> I was one of the original people letting people know about 18866,
>>>> 1899 and then 18185, and their VoIP services too.
>>>
>>> I think Martin had the right idea. I'd registered my mobile number,
>>> but had never _used_ it. I made a call from the mobile an hour ago,
>>> and the minute it showed on the bill, I could use the mobile number
>>> as the ID. Thanks Martin!
>>>
>>> That was with 1899.

>>
>>
>> Yet, over the last few years I've used used the service from my
>> mobiles, as I have from the 01 and 02 numbers, still they don't show.
>>
>> It's not like I have only just come accross the service and decided
>> to sign up for the texts, I've been usuing them from a couple of
>> days after they started up, first I started with 18866 back when it
>> was 1p/min and 1p connection, then they dropped it to 0.5p/min then
>> 0p/min then slowly crept the connection charge up. I joined 1899 as
>> I said when they started up and were cheaper than 18866.

>
> Have you used these mobile numbers recently? Try removing the mobile
> number, adding it, then making a call from it.



Used recently, yes. I'll just leave it and wait for it to be sorted.

Crazy thing is 1899 support simply say if you want people to reply, send the
mobile number in with the text!


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Old 07-24-2007, 03:15 PM   #9
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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> David Horne wrote:
>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> David Horne wrote:
>>>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Martin Jay" <martin@spam-free.org.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:r8aca3hlr2js4ds98e466fh9hmkc3gegib@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:31:55 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
>>>>>> <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Some people are stating they can select their mobile and / or
>>>>>>> landline number, others like myself are only able to select the
>>>>>>> freephone 0808 access
>>>>>>> number as the Caller ID.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you used 1899 to make any calls yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two numbers registered with 1899, but I've only used one
>>>>>> of them to make calls via the service. I can only select that
>>>>>> number (and the 0808 one) as my 'sender ID.'
>>>> []
>>>>> Yeah hundreds of calls, been using 1899 for several years, along
>>>>> with their other services.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was one of the original people letting people know about 18866,
>>>>> 1899 and then 18185, and their VoIP services too.
>>>>
>>>> I think Martin had the right idea. I'd registered my mobile number,
>>>> but had never _used_ it. I made a call from the mobile an hour ago,
>>>> and the minute it showed on the bill, I could use the mobile number
>>>> as the ID. Thanks Martin!
>>>>
>>>> That was with 1899.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yet, over the last few years I've used used the service from my
>>> mobiles, as I have from the 01 and 02 numbers, still they don't
>>> show.
>>>
>>> It's not like I have only just come accross the service and decided
>>> to sign up for the texts, I've been usuing them from a couple of
>>> days after they started up, first I started with 18866 back when it
>>> was 1p/min and 1p connection, then they dropped it to 0.5p/min then
>>> 0p/min then slowly crept the connection charge up. I joined 1899 as
>>> I said when they started up and were cheaper than 18866.

>>
>> Have you used these mobile numbers recently? Try removing the mobile
>> number, adding it, then making a call from it.

>
>
> Used recently, yes. I'll just leave it and wait for it to be sorted.
>
> Crazy thing is 1899 support simply say if you want people to reply,
> send the mobile number in with the text!



I haven't done anything and now I have one of my mobiles listed.


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Old 07-25-2007, 03:39 AM   #10
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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: 1899 etc. SMS service


<snip>

> When I tried to
> remove my landline as a registered number, then the only ID available
> was the 0870 access number. Is this on purpose, or has anyone else
> managed to get their mobile number as the ID? (More useful, obviously!)
>
> TIA,
>
> David


Like some others I got my "mobile number" to appear as ID for SMS message
only after I had made a chargeable call on 1899 via my mobile number.

Now I can successfully send SMS from 1899 with sender ID appearing as my
mobile number.

I suggest this might be a form of security verification to prevent anyone
"spoofing" the sender ID, i.e. before you can use your mobile number as the
sender ID you have to demonstrate that you actually have access to the
mobile and can make a call from it. Not the strongest form of security but
still would require physical access to the mobile.

Only my "pennysworth".


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Old 07-25-2007, 05:46 AM   #11
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jimmy wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:20:01 +0100, David Horne said:
>
>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>

> [snip huge quote]
>>
>> Have you used these mobile numbers recently? Try removing the mobile
>> number, adding it, then making a call from it.

>
> Have you tried trimming your follow-up posts recently? Try removing
> the excess quotes and give us some respite.



Have you tried to quit complaining, if they were huge quotes I'd snip, but
it was only small quotes.


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Old 07-25-2007, 12:01 PM   #12
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"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk>
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> jimmy wrote:


[snip]

> > Have you tried trimming your follow-up posts recently?
> > Try removing the excess quotes and give us some respite.

>
> Have you tried to quit complaining, if they were huge
> quotes I'd snip, but it was only small quotes.


With all due respect, I don't think seven levels of > constitutes a small
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:48 PM   #13
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David Horne <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Sorry for the cross-posting, but this seemed to straddle both groups!
> I've started using the sms service available via the 1899 website (the
> other related companies offer the same service now) but I can't get it
> to use my mobile number as an ID, only my landline! When I tried to
> remove my landline as a registered number, then the only ID available
> was the 0870 access number. Is this on purpose, or has anyone else
> managed to get their mobile number as the ID? (More useful, obviously!)


Has anyone checked what they were charged?

I sent 4 texts to Italy - each was charged 4 pence, rather than the "to
every country for only 1 p/message" that they are advertising.
A text to Luxembourg was only 1p though.

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Old 07-26-2007, 02:50 PM   #14
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SimonB <coz@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

> David Horne <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the cross-posting, but this seemed to straddle both groups!
> > I've started using the sms service available via the 1899 website (the
> > other related companies offer the same service now) but I can't get it
> > to use my mobile number as an ID, only my landline! When I tried to
> > remove my landline as a registered number, then the only ID available
> > was the 0870 access number. Is this on purpose, or has anyone else
> > managed to get their mobile number as the ID? (More useful, obviously!)

>
> Has anyone checked what they were charged?
>
> I sent 4 texts to Italy - each was charged 4 pence, rather than the "to
> every country for only 1 p/message" that they are advertising.
> A text to Luxembourg was only 1p though.


I was charged 1p for the UK texts- haven't texted abroad yet.

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Old 07-27-2007, 07:35 AM   #15
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J B <jb@privacy.net> wrote:

> "SimonB" <coz@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1i1vlkv.yjh40z1cye4sgN%coz@ukonline.co.uk...
>
> > Has anyone checked what they were charged?
> >
> > I sent 4 texts to Italy - each was charged 4 pence, rather than the "to
> > every country for only 1 p/message" that they are advertising.
> > A text to Luxembourg was only 1p though.

>
> Hmm ........ just checked 18866
>
> Last month (24th July) texts to Italy, Cyprus and USA, all at 1p
>
> This month (today 26th July) Italy is charged at 4p, UK & Cyprus at 1p


I received an email from 1899 advertising the 1p rate to Italy, while
their website says 4p!

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