Re: Vodafone Direct Push Email Costs

Roger presented the following explanation :
> Hi
> I recently swapped from a blackberry to a V1415 windows mobile which I've
> been quite pleased with. I set up direct push to synchronise with my
> corporate outlook server. In the Uk I pay for the £7.5 monthly data option so
> dont pay for direct push in the UK but used if aborad for the first time over
> the past two weeks and it seems that almost every time Ive been sent an email
> I've been charged the £1 minimum for data usage. When I get up to a hundred
> emails a day this is obviosuly going to be very expensive.
>
> My question is, is internet data over GPRS the best way to synchronise with a
> corporate outlook server or can the Vodafone Business Email option do this as
> well (its says only POP3/IMAP accounts on the website).

VBE is Voda's version of BlackBerry's BIS (Internet Service). In order
to sych email, calendar & contacts you would have to install their
version of the BES....I think they call it VMES.

I take it you don't have a BES & went this route to get full synch?

>
> Also has my phone been dropping the GPRS connection after receinving an email
> and is that why Ive been charged the minimum data fee every time I get an
> email?
>
> Thanks
> Roger.

"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.f53a7d79ed3ad370.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..
> Roger presented the following explanation :
>> Hi
>> I recently swapped from a blackberry to a V1415 windows mobile which I've
>> been quite pleased with. I set up direct push to synchronise with my
>> corporate outlook server. In the Uk I pay for the £7.5 monthly data
>> option so dont pay for direct push in the UK but used if aborad for the
>> first time over the past two weeks and it seems that almost every time
>> Ive been sent an email I've been charged the £1 minimum for data usage.
>> When I get up to a hundred emails a day this is obviosuly going to be
>> very expensive.
>>
>> My question is, is internet data over GPRS the best way to synchronise
>> with a corporate outlook server or can the Vodafone Business Email option
>> do this as well (its says only POP3/IMAP accounts on the website).
>
> VBE is Voda's version of BlackBerry's BIS (Internet Service). In order to
> sych email, calendar & contacts you would have to install their version of
> the BES....I think they call it VMES.
>
> I take it you don't have a BES & went this route to get full synch?
>
>>
>> Also has my phone been dropping the GPRS connection after receinving an
>> email and is that why Ive been charged the minimum data fee every time I
>> get an email?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Roger.
>
>
no we have a BES as well but I wanted a windows mobile device and assumed
the costs would be comparable if the data amount was the same.

Roger formulated on Monday :
> "Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mn.f53a7d79ed3ad370.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..
>> Roger presented the following explanation :
>>> Hi
>>> I recently swapped from a blackberry to a V1415 windows mobile which I've
>>> been quite pleased with. I set up direct push to synchronise with my
>>> corporate outlook server. In the Uk I pay for the £7.5 monthly data option
>>> so dont pay for direct push in the UK but used if aborad for the first
>>> time over the past two weeks and it seems that almost every time Ive been
>>> sent an email I've been charged the £1 minimum for data usage. When I get
>>> up to a hundred emails a day this is obviosuly going to be very expensive.
>>>
>>> My question is, is internet data over GPRS the best way to synchronise
>>> with a corporate outlook server or can the Vodafone Business Email option
>>> do this as well (its says only POP3/IMAP accounts on the website).
>>
>> VBE is Voda's version of BlackBerry's BIS (Internet Service). In order to
>> sych email, calendar & contacts you would have to install their version of
>> the BES....I think they call it VMES.
>>
>> I take it you don't have a BES & went this route to get full synch?
>>
>>>
>>> Also has my phone been dropping the GPRS connection after receinving an
>>> email and is that why Ive been charged the minimum data fee every time I
>>> get an email?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Roger.
>>
>>
> no we have a BES as well but I wanted a windows mobile device and assumed the
> costs would be comparable if the data amount was the same.

Go back to the Blackberry!

MS Direct Push has NO concept of compression, or security, for that
matter.

Although Exchange Direct Push encrypts the body of the mail, if you
choose, apparently, attachments, calendar, tasks etc are sent in the
clear.

Why don't you install the BlackBerry Connect client for your smartphone
and set it up on your BES?

<http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=225> - obviously, you will need
the BlackBerry Enterprise Server tariff "bolt on"