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Old 11-24-2007, 03:10 AM   #16
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Re: Unlocked French iPhone will use French language ONLY



"(c) The OS/2 Guy (c)" <os2guy@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 23, 11:52 am, use...@alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote:
>
>> If the states is as bad as you imply, I can see why the iPhone has only
>> managed to sell 26,000 in its first few weeks (the estimate was
>> 100,000).

>
> Your points are well taken Woody and I do not know the European cell
> phone market.
>
> Many of your facts are a bit off - the iPhone holds a 27% share of the
> cell phone market in the U.S. today and should surpass 30% by year's
> end. It came out July 1st and the cell phone industry did everything
> they could to downplay the importance of such a product. To achieve
> nearly 30% within four short months is a spectacular accomplishment.




what on earth do you mean by that?
are you suggesting 27% of all mobile phones in current use in the states are
iphones !?
i'd be more willing to bet it's 27% of those sold in launch week or
something like that.


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Old 11-24-2007, 03:19 AM   #17
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:11:42 +0000, Woody wrote
(in article <1i824ce.119o64aakaq5N%usenet@alienrat.co.uk>):

> btw - I was refering to the UK market, where O2 have sold 26,500 (O2
> being the prime supplier), where the prediction was 100,000


Have O2 confirmed those figures, or is The Register's story the only
source?

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Old 11-24-2007, 04:43 AM   #18
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Ian Robinson <junk@canicula.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:11:42 +0000, Woody wrote
> (in article <1i824ce.119o64aakaq5N%usenet@alienrat.co.uk>):
>
> > btw - I was refering to the UK market, where O2 have sold 26,500 (O2
> > being the prime supplier), where the prediction was 100,000

>
> Have O2 confirmed those figures, or is The Register's story the only
> source?


O2 just say 'between 20,000 to 40,000'. Can't seem to find a more
accurate figure from them, but i guess it is in the same range


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Old 11-24-2007, 05:09 AM   #19
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:43:43 +0000, Woody wrote
(in article <1i82w9p.ix8g3c3gv3wiN%usenet@alienrat.co.uk>):

> O2 just say 'between 20,000 to 40,000'. Can't seem to find a more
> accurate figure from them, but i guess it is in the same range


That's the figure they are using for the first weekend. We don't seem
to have any data for the 2 weeks after that. Time will tell.

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Old 11-24-2007, 01:28 PM   #20
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:32:50 +0000, c) The OS/2 Guy (c) wrote
>
> The bottom line here is that the majority of legal iPhone owners are
> unhappy with hackers. Unhappy because hackers are putting their
> iPhone investments and the entire iPhone community at risk.


iPhone 'investments'?? the iPhone 'community'??

It's a *phone* FFS. Customers buy it to use it - it's not an 'investment'.


>
> Its a SmartPhone for Godsakes.


Is it? Are you *sure* about that?

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Old 11-24-2007, 01:34 PM   #21
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(c) The OS/2 Guy (c) <os2guy@gmail.com> wrote:

> The bottom line here is that the majority of legal iPhone owners are
> unhappy with hackers. Unhappy because hackers are putting their
> iPhone investments and the entire iPhone community at risk. Those
> legal iPhone owners want Apple to secure the iPhone and take legal and
> criminal action against those who jeopardize the iPhone product.


Apart from you, do you know anyone who things apple need to secure the
iPhone and take legal action (whatever reason they could have for that)
against people?

> Its a SmartPhone for Godsakes. It is the only SmartPhone to have
> changed the cell phone industry within five short months. So popular
> that it has left the U.S. and is now being sold and purchased in
> France, England and Germany for the ungodly sum of $1,500 US dollars.


Where? It can't be purchased in england for that cost (in fact they are
about $400-500 on ebay) and the german case hasn't been agreed yet.

> It holds 27% of the SmartPhone market in the U.S. when six months ago
> it wasn't even found in the SmartPhone market.


I know you keep quoting this figure but do you have any proof of it,
other than your say so? I find it really odd that the smartphone market
is so tiny in the USA where it is big everywhere else.

As I said, on your figures it means the US sells fewer smartphones than
the UK, dispite having 5 times the population.


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Old 11-24-2007, 01:51 PM   #22
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:32:50 +0000, c) The OS/2 Guy (c) wrote
(in article
<5659c266-0f98-4959-965c-50470adb9ade@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):

> The bottom line here is that the majority of legal iPhone owners are
> unhappy with hackers.


How can you state this? Has someone done a survey?

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