iPhone in the UK is a major disaster, *official*, suck my cock,Apple!

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:58:35 +0000, Ben Shimmin wrote
>
>> I suspect more users are like Andy than are like Matthew. Whereas
>> *everybody* uses the whizzy UI.
>
> I agree. The UI is the best and most important thing about the iPhone.
>
> I have used Bluetooth all of once to receive a file from another mobile.

I couldn't have a phone without Bluetooth - mine is used continually for the
following purposes:

- Connecting to Mac to notify of incoming calls/managing texts (using BPE)
- Connecting to car kit
- Auto-syncing calendar and contacts with Exchange server

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Stimpy <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> I suspect more users are like Andy than are like Matthew. Whereas
> >> *everybody* uses the whizzy UI.
> >
> > I agree. The UI is the best and most important thing about the iPhone.
> >
> > I have used Bluetooth all of once to receive a file from another mobile.
>
> I couldn't have a phone without Bluetooth - mine is used continually for the
> following purposes:
>
> - Connecting to Mac to notify of incoming calls/managing texts (using BPE)
> - Connecting to car kit
> - Auto-syncing calendar and contacts with Exchange server

I think you've just amplified and proved my point...
--
Peter

Ben Shimmin wrote:

> I agree. The UI is the best and most important thing about the iPhone.
>
> I have used Bluetooth all of once to receive a file from another mobile.
> I think this sort of thing is quite common amongst teenagers (it was, in
> fact, a teenager who sent me the file by Bluetooth).

I use Bluetooth to send files quite often. I am not a teenager. I also
use MMS a lot.

iPhone UI - excellent. Best phone for SMS I have used, bar the lack of
forwarding/address book (cut and paste would make forwarding possible,
of course). Mine is jailbroken/activated on PayG O2 because I wanted the
toy, but thought the contract exceptionally poor value compared to my
T-Mobile one. As soon as an unlock mechanism is available, I'll be
getting an iPhone to replace my Ameo and the Ameo will be relegated to
the "does everything, but not too well" pile of WM devices.

Richard

I am an old fogy with a long term commitment to a cell phone provider
which isn't favored by Apple.

Besides picking up my phone in the morning and plugging it back in, in
the evening - the most common thing I do with my phone is delete
pictures taken of the inside of my pocket.

I used my camera once - to take a picture of my face as an aid to
identifying me if the phone was lost. I'm not going to pay an extra
monthly fee to copy these low-quality photos. But my phone has a
button on the outside that takes pictures. I will be sitting at my
desk and hear the camera go off - with my camera in my pocket.

I basically have a cell phone because my wife probably would be dead
if it weren't for a fast call to the emergency room from a driver with
a cell phone. I owe big time.

I have a full iPod, and would like to upgrade it to a bigger one - and
wouldn't mind if the bigger one had the touch/video features for the
movies my grandkids watch on it. I don't want to be connected to
the world all the time, although it would be nice if my iPod could
listen to AM radio. (I don't need music stations - I have my own
music).

So if an iPhone was available for me and I bought one - I'd have a fun
toy to play with, and I'd either have to carry less media around or
keep my iPod. Someday I'd probably use mapquest to find a
restaurant in a strange city.

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:22:23 +0000, Peter Ceresole wrote
>
>> I couldn't have a phone without Bluetooth - mine is used continually for the
>> following purposes:
>>
>> - Connecting to Mac to notify of incoming calls/managing texts (using BPE)
>> - Connecting to car kit
>> - Auto-syncing calendar and contacts with Exchange server
>
> I think you've just amplified and proved my point...

HTH. The lack of 'proper' Bluetooth is the major stumbling block to me not
getting an iPhone

In article <[email protected]>, Ben Shimmin
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I have used Bluetooth all of once to receive a file from another mobile.
> I think this sort of thing is quite common amongst teenagers (it was, in
> fact, a teenager who sent me the file by Bluetooth).

I use Bluetooth from time to time to move wallpaper, ringtones, and
pictures taken by the phone. It saves wear and tear on the mini-USB
connector.

In article <291120070905177473%[email protected]>, Mr. Strat
<[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Ben Shimmin
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I have used Bluetooth all of once to receive a file from another mobile.
> > I think this sort of thing is quite common amongst teenagers (it was, in
> > fact, a teenager who sent me the file by Bluetooth).
>
> I use Bluetooth from time to time to move wallpaper, ringtones, and
> pictures taken by the phone. It saves wear and tear on the mini-USB
> connector.

And I also use it for connecting to my H700. Next year, our state will
outlaw hand-holding a cell phone while driving.

"Dave Higton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In message <[email protected]>
> Sarah Brown <[email protected]_uce_please.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> MichaelJP <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > And there was a massive gap in the market for someone to bring out a
>> > phone with a good intuitive interface.
>>
>> Agreed, and the iPhone should up the game. My own view is that what
>> Apple have done, however, is brought out a good intuitive interface
>> with a phone, rather than the other way round, so there's a choice -
>> decent phone, clunky interface, or decent interface, feature-poor
>> phone.
>
> So, how good is the iPhone's UI for texting?
>
It can't send the same text to multiple recipients...
--
Cheers, Steve.
Change jealous to sad to reply.

>> I suspect more users are like Andy than are like Matthew. Whereas
>> *everybody* uses the whizzy UI.
>
> I agree. The UI is the best and most important thing about the iPhone.
>
> I have used Bluetooth all of once to receive a file from another mobile.
> I think this sort of thing is quite common amongst teenagers (it was, in
> fact, a teenager who sent me the file by Bluetooth).

Well, my teen years are long gone! Bluetooth file sharing is very useful for
all sorts of files! My point is, these are basic features that most phones
now have as standard, if you use them or not. The same with mms.
I would find these above features much more useful than 'visual voice mail'

In article <[email protected]>,
"Matthew Long" <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> I suspect more users are like Andy than are like Matthew. Whereas
> >> *everybody* uses the whizzy UI.
> >
> > I agree. The UI is the best and most important thing about the iPhone.
> >
> > I have used Bluetooth all of once to receive a file from another mobile.
> > I think this sort of thing is quite common amongst teenagers (it was, in
> > fact, a teenager who sent me the file by Bluetooth).
>
> Well, my teen years are long gone! Bluetooth file sharing is very useful for
> all sorts of files! My point is, these are basic features that most phones
> now have as standard, if you use them or not. The same with mms.
> I would find these above features much more useful than 'visual voice mail'

So how was I able to transfer an old ringtone from my previous phone to
my iPhone if BlueTooth wasn't working?

"Mike Edwards" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Matthew Long" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> I suspect more users are like Andy than are like Matthew. Whereas
>> >> *everybody* uses the whizzy UI.
>> >
>> > I agree. The UI is the best and most important thing about the iPhone.
>> >
>> > I have used Bluetooth all of once to receive a file from another
>> > mobile.
>> > I think this sort of thing is quite common amongst teenagers (it was,
>> > in
>> > fact, a teenager who sent me the file by Bluetooth).
>>
>> Well, my teen years are long gone! Bluetooth file sharing is very useful
>> for
>> all sorts of files! My point is, these are basic features that most
>> phones
>> now have as standard, if you use them or not. The same with mms.
>> I would find these above features much more useful than 'visual voice
>> mail'
>
> So how was I able to transfer an old ringtone from my previous phone to
> my iPhone if BlueTooth wasn't working?

By using iDemocracy?

Matthew Long <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> I suspect more users are like Andy than are like Matthew. Whereas
> >> *everybody* uses the whizzy UI.
> >
> > I agree. The UI is the best and most important thing about the iPhone.
> >
> > I have used Bluetooth all of once to receive a file from another mobile.
> > I think this sort of thing is quite common amongst teenagers (it was, in
> > fact, a teenager who sent me the file by Bluetooth).
>
> Well, my teen years are long gone! Bluetooth file sharing is very useful for
> all sorts of files! My point is, these are basic features that most phones
> now have as standard, if you use them or not. The same with mms.

I may be missing your point so feel free to put me straight. They may be
considered basic features but if I don't use them it's irrelevant
whether they're there or not.

> I would find these above features much more useful than 'visual voice mail'

I find visual voice mail very useful. As you'll have guessed by now I
find it more useful than MMS or Bluetooth file transfers. ;o)

--
Andy.

Sarah Brown <[email protected]_uce_please.com> wrote:

> >Until recently, Nokias had a brilliantly simple and consistent user
> >interface. Then they went through a rotten patch, but it seems to be
> >getting better.
>
> This seems to be recieved wisodm, but I always found them really
> fiddly and unintuitive

All the cell phones I have used extensively have been Nokias; I have
always found their UI to be pretty simple and logical, certainly
compared to any others (like the phones my daughters use) which aren't
Nokias but instinctively I have suppressed the brand name involved, in
the way that the brain suppresses bad experiences.

But *my* Nokia is an 1100, which has the infinite virtue of being just a
phone, so things are pretty minimalist.
--
Peter

On 2007-11-30 18:13:35 +0000, [email protected] (Peter Ceresole) said:

> Sarah Brown <[email protected]_uce_please.com> wrote:
>
>>> Until recently, Nokias had a brilliantly simple and consistent user
>>> interface. Then they went through a rotten patch, but it seems to be
>>> getting better.
>>
>> This seems to be recieved wisodm, but I always found them really
>> fiddly and unintuitive
>
> All the cell phones I have used extensively have been Nokias; I have
> always found their UI to be pretty simple and logical, certainly
> compared to any others (like the phones my daughters use) which aren't
> Nokias but instinctively I have suppressed the brand name involved, in
> the way that the brain suppresses bad experiences.
>
> But *my* Nokia is an 1100, which has the infinite virtue of being just a
> phone, so things are pretty minimalist.

I think you need to distinguish the (useable, but painful) Nokia
interface on dumb phones like the 1100, from the completely different
ones they provide on S60 "smart" phones.

Cheers,

Chris

Sarah Brown <[email protected]_uce_please.com> wrote:

> My Nokia replaces this arrangement with a cluster of five buttons,
> with up to all of them becoming slightly different variartions on "do
> it" at different points in time.

My 1100 (as I said, as basic as it gets) has fundamentally two buttons
and two cursor keys. It all became clear when I understood that
everything went via the soft 'Menu' function.

Yes, there are some fiddly bits- configuring predictive texting is
something I always have to look up, but then that's because once I've
established my defaults I only very rarely have to change them, so I
forget how. Predictive texting itself works remarkably well.

But then if you wanted to define 'power user', you could define it
through me, as being its antithesis.
--
Peter