Re: "the jammers revenge on mobile prattlers" in the Times

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:25:06 +0000, Andrey Yarnwood wrote
>
> Perhaps Ivor should have said there is a correlation between
> *annoying* mobile phone use and a tendency to violence.

But what's *annoying* phone use? One man's annoying waffle might be someone
else's enjoyable conversation.

"Stimpy" <stimpy1997uk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: : On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:25:06 +0000, Andrey Yarnwood
: : wrote
: : :
: : : Perhaps Ivor should have said there is a correlation
: : : between *annoying* mobile phone use and a tendency to
: : : violence.
: :
: : But what's *annoying* phone use? One man's annoying
: : waffle might be someone else's enjoyable conversation.

It's annoying if I can hear it. I don't want to listen to half of someone
else's inane chatter.

I once had the dubious "pleasure" of listening, from the driving cab of a
bus, to a girl going through her entire social calendar for the next
month. She was sitting on the back seat and didn't stop talking from the
moment she got on to the moment she got off some 45 minutes later. I don't
know who she was talking to, but I could have told you everything she had
planned for some weeks afterwards.

Ivor

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:14:00 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote
>
>>>> Perhaps Ivor should have said there is a correlation
>>>> between *annoying* mobile phone use and a tendency to
>>>> violence.
>>>
>>> But what's *annoying* phone use? One man's annoying
>>> waffle might be someone else's enjoyable conversation.
>
> It's annoying if I can hear it. I don't want to listen to half of someone
> else's inane chatter.

Ah, ok... So you find people using mobiles within earshot of you annoying
rather than what they might be saying. Thanks

"Stimpy" <stimpy1997uk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: : On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:14:00 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote
: : :
: : : : : : Perhaps Ivor should have said there is a
: : : : : : correlation between *annoying* mobile phone use
: : : : : : and a tendency to violence.
: : : : :
: : : : : But what's *annoying* phone use? One man's
: : : : : annoying waffle might be someone else's enjoyable
: : : : : conversation.
: : :
: : : It's annoying if I can hear it. I don't want to
: : : listen to half of someone else's inane chatter.
: :
: : Ah, ok... So you find people using mobiles within
: : earshot of you annoying rather than what they might be
: : saying. Thanks

You find that strange..? I was trying to do a job which involves
concentration and all I could hear was this penetratingly loud voice going
on about who she was seeing that night, which pub she was going to get
plastered at that weekend, and so on.

As has been said elsewhere, if someone uses a mobile with consideration
for those around them, you *don't* get to hear about it, because you don't
hear them.

To be honest, phones only amplify an already existing problem. I have no
problems with people talking to one another, I do it myself when I'm on a
bus with a mate going out for the evening, but you can't hear our
conversation 30 feet away.


Ivor

In message m5xjeu2323kk$.12jsn4uu15ps6.dlg@40tude.net,
Chris Tolley <cjt.7@supanet.com> Proclaimed from the tallest tower:

> Peter wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:09:38 GMT, Chris Tolley <cjt.7@supanet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The appropriate response if someone is really being annoying when
>>> they are using a mobile phone is to ask them politely to be more
>>> considerate.
>>
>> Have you ever tried doing that? These oiks ignore you... if you're
>> lucky.
>
> Every time (though there haven't been more than half a dozen such
> occasions, as I'm not *usually* so easily distracted by what others
> are doing) I've asked someone to desist from something of that
> nature, they have complied without resorting either to violence or
> verbal abuse.
>
Are you a physically large/intimidating looking chap? I'd imagine that would
help incouraging somone to desist...

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ChrisM wrote:

> Are you a physically large/intimidating looking chap?

Nobody's ever told me they find my appearance intimidating.

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In message <14mj5pyc5tdv4.jndkeog1s2m9$.dlg@40tude.net>
Chris Tolley <cjt.7@supanet.com> wrote:

> ChrisM wrote:
>
> > Are you a physically large/intimidating looking chap?
>
> Nobody's ever told me they find my appearance intimidating.
>

They're too scared to :-)

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:05:58 GMT, Chris Tolley <cjt.7@supanet.com>
wrote:

>Nobody's ever told me they find my appearance intimidating.

Is that a 'yes' then!

But seriously, I've done the same occasionally and usually get a
polite response[1].

If it's really loud music then I usually just ask what it is they are
listening to. Tends to confuse... Especially if I hum along with it.
(well, if you can't beat them, join them!)

[1] The most recent negative response I recall was on a bus in Nice
this summer, when I requested "silence, s.v.p." from a couple of lads
playing music through their phone speakers. They, of course, did the
natural thing and turned up the volume. Which got an elderly lady in
front of me very angry. And provoked a shouting match with a very
large man who got annoyed at their treatment of the lady. All in
French by this time, so I wasn't able to follow exactly what was being
said. But they shut up.

Graeme Wall wrote:

> In message <14mj5pyc5tdv4.jndkeog1s2m9$.dlg@40tude.net>
> Chris Tolley <cjt.7@supanet.com> wrote:
>
>> ChrisM wrote:
>>
>>> Are you a physically large/intimidating looking chap?
>>
>> Nobody's ever told me they find my appearance intimidating.
>>
>
> They're too scared to :-)

Unlikely. There are quite a few people who tell me all sorts of things
about my appearance. Just not that.

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G wrote:

> [1] The most recent negative response I recall was on a bus in Nice
> this summer, when I requested "silence, s.v.p." from a couple of lads
> playing music through their phone speakers. They, of course, did the
> natural thing and turned up the volume. Which got an elderly lady in
> front of me very angry. And provoked a shouting match with a very
> large man who got annoyed at their treatment of the lady. All in
> French by this time, so I wasn't able to follow exactly what was being
> said. But they shut up.

I think I've related here an occasion when I was travelling from Glossop
to Manchester in the fairly recent past, and some youths were doing the
same. It wasn't bothering me, though the music wasn't to my taste.
However, it was bothering a couple of BTP CSOs who were aboard. The CSOs
asked them to turn the music down or off, and got a cheeky response,
which proved to be a very ill-advised move. The CSOs suddenly started to
show that they weren't the sort of people that expected to be treated
like that, and detained one (or perhaps more) of them on the station at
Guide Bridge while their identity was checked against the PNC database.

It was quite impressive, really, a modern equivalent of the "clip round
the ear" people frequently tell me old-fashioned coppers used to give
them when they were kids.
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