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  1. #1
    Mike P
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    Has anyone had both?

    Which one was better - better being more reliable, better battery life, ease
    of use?

    I'm now on my 3rd N95 and 3 have offered to swap it for a K850i. Should I go
    for it?

    cheers

    Mike P

    --

    I love to travel, but I hate to arrive.





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  2. #2
    Mark Hewitt
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    Re: K850i or N95


    "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Has anyone had both?
    >
    > Which one was better - better being more reliable, better battery life,
    > ease of use?
    >
    > I'm now on my 3rd N95 and 3 have offered to swap it for a K850i. Should I
    > go for it?


    No GPS?
    Also AFAIK you can't load your own apps onto SE phones.





  3. #3
    Mike P
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    Re: K850i or N95


    "Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Has anyone had both?
    >>
    >> Which one was better - better being more reliable, better battery life,
    >> ease of use?
    >>
    >> I'm now on my 3rd N95 and 3 have offered to swap it for a K850i. Should I
    >> go for it?

    >
    > No GPS?
    > Also AFAIK you can't load your own apps onto SE phones.


    GPS is of little use to me on a phone, I have a tom-tom in the car anyway.
    The only possible thing I *might* want to use it for
    would be Skype or similar..

    Mike P





  4. #4
    JamesB
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    Re: K850i or N95


    "Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Has anyone had both?
    >>
    >> Which one was better - better being more reliable, better battery life,
    >> ease of use?
    >>
    >> I'm now on my 3rd N95 and 3 have offered to swap it for a K850i. Should I
    >> go for it?

    >
    > No GPS?
    > Also AFAIK you can't load your own apps onto SE phones.



    You can, although you are limited to java apps. The K850 isn't a
    "smartphone" as such.

    I get confused with the comparison between the two to be honest, apart from
    both having 5Mpx cameras they are completely different!




  5. #5
    Gerry \(The MOTH\)
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    Re: K850i or N95


    "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Has anyone had both?
    >
    > Which one was better - better being more reliable, better battery life,
    > ease of use?
    >
    > I'm now on my 3rd N95 and 3 have offered to swap it for a K850i. Should I
    > go for it?
    >
    > cheers
    >
    > Mike P
    >
    > --
    >
    > I love to travel, but I hate to arrive.
    >


    Oh the Nokia v SE debate?

    NOKIA
    NOKIA
    NOKIA
    NOKIA
    NOKIA
    NOKIA
    NOKIA
    NOKIA
    All the way........

    What's been wrong with the last three N95's you've had?

    --
    Gerry (The MOTH)
    gerrymoth.vox.com





  6. #6
    Mike P
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    Re: K850i or N95


    "Gerry (The MOTH)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Has anyone had both?
    >>
    >> Which one was better - better being more reliable, better battery life,
    >> ease of use?
    >>
    >> I'm now on my 3rd N95 and 3 have offered to swap it for a K850i. Should I
    >> go for it?
    >>
    >> cheers
    >>
    >> Mike P
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> I love to travel, but I hate to arrive.
    >>

    >
    > Oh the Nokia v SE debate?
    >
    > NOKIA
    > NOKIA
    > NOKIA
    > NOKIA
    > NOKIA
    > NOKIA
    > NOKIA
    > NOKIA
    > All the way........
    >
    > What's been wrong with the last three N95's you've had?
    >


    Two suffered from the same fault - coming up with "SIM Card registration
    failed" when sitting in my pocket or just lying on the table. Sometimes they
    wouldn't recognise the SIM at all when starting up.The SIM works fine in my
    other phone.

    The N95 crashed at least twice a day for no apparent reason - ie I was just
    making a call, not using any of the apps, if I was using the apps, the
    crashes were more frequent. The battery life is awful even without GPRS/Wifi
    and Bluetooth turned on. It's on the latest firmware 3 have released for the
    N95.

    The N95 would be a *superb* phone, if the firmware was ok. I see V20 is just
    out and appears to have sorted some of the issues out. However, how long
    before 3 release it? I wanted the phone for skype/messenger as well, neither
    of which I can get working on the generic firmware due to 3's restrictions.

    Mike p






  7. #7
    Gerry \(The MOTH\)
    Guest

    Re: K850i or N95


    "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > Two suffered from the same fault - coming up with "SIM Card registration
    > failed" when sitting in my pocket or just lying on the table. Sometimes
    > they wouldn't recognise the SIM at all when starting up.The SIM works fine
    > in my other phone.


    Had this problem with my 6120 Classic, don't think its a phone problem, more
    of a sim card being to thin. Well it was in my case. Sent first phone back
    and kept original sim, when I got new phone in same problem.

    >
    > The N95 crashed at least twice a day for no apparent reason - ie I was
    > just making a call, not using any of the apps, if I was using the apps,
    > the crashes were more frequent. The battery life is awful even without
    > GPRS/Wifi and Bluetooth turned on. It's on the latest firmware 3 have
    > released for the N95.
    >


    I had similar problems when I got my original 3 N73, but after rebranding
    the phone the problems all but disappeared.

    > The N95 would be a *superb* phone, if the firmware was ok. I see V20 is
    > just out and appears to have sorted some of the issues out. However, how
    > long before 3 release it? I wanted the phone for skype/messenger as well,
    > neither of which I can get working on the generic firmware due to 3's
    > restrictions.
    >
    > Mike p
    >


    I've been reading mixed comments on the new v20 firmware. The trial N95 I
    used for a few weeks had v12 firmware and I could only ever have 1 app
    running or I'd get low memory messages, but on the trial unbranded N95 I had
    I was able to use Skype and 3MSN and the new Windows Live Messenger with my
    3 SIM (I have X-Series Silver add-on). I've got all the apps if you want to
    try on your N95, just email me from my blog and I'll send you the links (or
    look thru my posts on my blog I'm sure I've got the links for Skype on
    there).

    One thing I do miss going back to the N73 from having a N95 for a few weeks
    in Wifi, came in very handy for downloading podcasts at night for the next
    day at work.

    --
    Gerry (The MOTH)
    gerrymoth.vox.com





  8. #8
    Mike P
    Guest

    Re: K850i or N95


    "Gerry (The MOTH)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> Two suffered from the same fault - coming up with "SIM Card registration
    >> failed" when sitting in my pocket or just lying on the table. Sometimes
    >> they wouldn't recognise the SIM at all when starting up.The SIM works
    >> fine in my other phone.

    >
    > Had this problem with my 6120 Classic, don't think its a phone problem,
    > more of a sim card being to thin. Well it was in my case. Sent first phone
    > back and kept original sim, when I got new phone in same problem.
    >
    >>
    >> The N95 crashed at least twice a day for no apparent reason - ie I was
    >> just making a call, not using any of the apps, if I was using the apps,
    >> the crashes were more frequent. The battery life is awful even without
    >> GPRS/Wifi and Bluetooth turned on. It's on the latest firmware 3 have
    >> released for the N95.
    >>

    >
    > I had similar problems when I got my original 3 N73, but after rebranding
    > the phone the problems all but disappeared.
    >
    >> The N95 would be a *superb* phone, if the firmware was ok. I see V20 is
    >> just out and appears to have sorted some of the issues out. However, how
    >> long before 3 release it? I wanted the phone for skype/messenger as well,
    >> neither of which I can get working on the generic firmware due to 3's
    >> restrictions.
    >>
    >> Mike p
    >>

    >
    > I've been reading mixed comments on the new v20 firmware. The trial N95 I
    > used for a few weeks had v12 firmware and I could only ever have 1 app
    > running or I'd get low memory messages, but on the trial unbranded N95 I
    > had I was able to use Skype and 3MSN and the new Windows Live Messenger
    > with my 3 SIM (I have X-Series Silver add-on). I've got all the apps if
    > you want to try on your N95, just email me from my blog and I'll send you
    > the links (or look thru my posts on my blog I'm sure I've got the links
    > for Skype on there).
    >


    Hi Gerry

    Thanks for all the info. I've debranded it with V20 now and installed Skype
    OK. I can't get
    Live messenger or Yahoo GO! to install - I get "certificate error" with both
    apps. This is the same problem
    I got before when I tried to use the apps on an unbranded phone. I am
    downloading both from 3's site.

    Cheers
    Mike P





  9. #9
    Gerry \(The MOTH\)
    Guest

    Re: K850i or N95


    "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > Hi Gerry
    >
    > Thanks for all the info. I've debranded it with V20 now and installed
    > Skype OK. I can't get
    > Live messenger or Yahoo GO! to install - I get "certificate error" with
    > both apps. This is the same problem
    > I got before when I tried to use the apps on an unbranded phone. I am
    > downloading both from 3's site.
    >
    > Cheers
    > Mike P
    >


    You won't be able to download the one from the 3 Internet pages and get
    working. I've got a modified jad file which allows you to install the
    correct 3 jar file for MSN. Again email me and when I get home tonight I'll
    send you a link.

    The new YahooGO v2.0 I've never got working on any phone I've got branded or
    otherwise. Stay away from yahoo apps.

    --
    Gerry (The MOTH)
    gerrymoth.vox.com





  10. #10
    Mike P
    Guest

    Re: K850i or N95


    "Gerry (The MOTH)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> Hi Gerry
    >>
    >> Thanks for all the info. I've debranded it with V20 now and installed
    >> Skype OK. I can't get
    >> Live messenger or Yahoo GO! to install - I get "certificate error" with
    >> both apps. This is the same problem
    >> I got before when I tried to use the apps on an unbranded phone. I am
    >> downloading both from 3's site.
    >>
    >> Cheers
    >> Mike P
    >>

    >
    > You won't be able to download the one from the 3 Internet pages and get
    > working. I've got a modified jad file which allows you to install the
    > correct 3 jar file for MSN. Again email me and when I get home tonight
    > I'll send you a link.
    >
    > The new YahooGO v2.0 I've never got working on any phone I've got branded
    > or otherwise. Stay away from yahoo apps.
    >


    I've got Live Messenger working ok now - I downloaded it from the Download
    app on the
    phone as you suggest.

    Oddly I've never had a problem with YahooGo2.0, on this phone when it was
    branded, or on various Windows
    mobile devices I've installed it on. Is there another way to get my yahoo
    mail without installing it?

    Thanks again!
    Mike





  11. #11
    majogh
    Guest

    Re: K850i or N95

    Mike P wrote:
    > "Gerry (The MOTH)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>> Hi Gerry
    >>>
    >>> Thanks for all the info. I've debranded it with V20 now and installed
    >>> Skype OK. I can't get
    >>> Live messenger or Yahoo GO! to install - I get "certificate error" with
    >>> both apps. This is the same problem
    >>> I got before when I tried to use the apps on an unbranded phone. I am
    >>> downloading both from 3's site.
    >>>
    >>> Cheers
    >>> Mike P
    >>>

    >> You won't be able to download the one from the 3 Internet pages and get
    >> working. I've got a modified jad file which allows you to install the
    >> correct 3 jar file for MSN. Again email me and when I get home tonight
    >> I'll send you a link.
    >>
    >> The new YahooGO v2.0 I've never got working on any phone I've got branded
    >> or otherwise. Stay away from yahoo apps.
    >>

    >
    > I've got Live Messenger working ok now - I downloaded it from the Download
    > app on the
    > phone as you suggest.
    >
    > Oddly I've never had a problem with YahooGo2.0, on this phone when it was
    > branded, or on various Windows
    > mobile devices I've installed it on. Is there another way to get my yahoo
    > mail without installing it?
    >
    > Thanks again!
    > Mike
    >
    >


    You should be able to use the phones browser. Try http://uk.m.yahoo.com



  12. #12
    Gerry \(The MOTH\)
    Guest

    Re: K850i or N95


    "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > Oddly I've never had a problem with YahooGo2.0, on this phone when it was
    > branded, or on various Windows
    > mobile devices I've installed it on. Is there another way to get my yahoo
    > mail without installing it?
    >
    > Thanks again!
    > Mike
    >


    I've had 3 phones now and I can't install yahooGO from there website. I've
    emailed them and just get a autobot reply of some handsets are not
    compatible.

    I use Opera Mobile on my phone and just check my Yahoo Mail via
    mail.yahoo.com, just make sure you have it set for the original mail on the
    PC and not the new beta version.
    Alternatively just use the built-in email client or LCG ProfiMail or any
    email app.

    --
    Gerry (The MOTH)
    gerrymoth.vox.com





  13. #13
    Mike P
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    Re: K850i or N95


    "Gerry (The MOTH)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Mike P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> Oddly I've never had a problem with YahooGo2.0, on this phone when it was
    >> branded, or on various Windows
    >> mobile devices I've installed it on. Is there another way to get my yahoo
    >> mail without installing it?
    >>
    >> Thanks again!
    >> Mike
    >>

    >
    > I've had 3 phones now and I can't install yahooGO from there website. I've
    > emailed them and just get a autobot reply of some handsets are not
    > compatible.
    >
    > I use Opera Mobile on my phone and just check my Yahoo Mail via
    > mail.yahoo.com, just make sure you have it set for the original mail on
    > the PC and not the new beta version.
    > Alternatively just use the built-in email client or LCG ProfiMail or any
    > email app.
    >

    Nice one Gerry. I'll keep the N95 now I think. It's running V20, all my apps
    are working and I've not had a single crash yet. The battery life seems to
    be extended too - similar amount of usage at night usually kills it, and
    it's still got all bars showing.

    Cheers
    Mike P





  14. #14
    Big Bird
    Guest

    Re: K850i or N95

    * Mike P wrote:
    > Has anyone had both?
    >
    > Which one was better - better being more reliable, better battery life, ease
    > of use?
    >
    > I'm now on my 3rd N95 and 3 have offered to swap it for a K850i. Should I go
    > for it?
    >
    > cheers
    >
    > Mike P
    >


    Try and get the N95-3. It's better than the N95-1 in terms of battery
    life and reliability. v20 of the firmware is now out for the N95-1 which
    increases battery length by 20-30% and includes Demand Paging support
    (which is useful if you were having RAM problems before).



  15. #15
    Mike P
    Guest

    Re: K850i or N95


    "Big Bird" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >* Mike P wrote:
    >> Has anyone had both?
    >>
    >> Which one was better - better being more reliable, better battery life,
    >> ease
    >> of use?
    >>
    >> I'm now on my 3rd N95 and 3 have offered to swap it for a K850i. Should I
    >> go
    >> for it?
    >>
    >> cheers
    >>
    >> Mike P
    >>

    >
    > Try and get the N95-3. It's better than the N95-1 in terms of battery
    > life and reliability. v20 of the firmware is now out for the N95-1 which
    > increases battery length by 20-30% and includes Demand Paging support
    > (which is useful if you were having RAM problems before).


    Oddly, my N95 is now recognised as an N95 8GB by my PC now I've updated it.
    Is this just the firware fooling it, or have
    3 been getting N95 8GBs and poisoning them with their ****ty software?

    Thanks all!

    Mike P





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